| Rob W |
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The BBC has secured the television rights to show Formula One in the UK from the 2009 season.
The five-year deal marks the return of the sport to BBC screens 12 years after ITV began broadcasting Grands Prix.
Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone said: "I am delighted to conclude this new deal with the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/mot...one/7306123.stm
So is this a good thing? I've been out of the UK for a while now but the adverts in the middle of a race annoyed me.
I wonder what extra dimension the BBC will bring and is this a good way to spend its money? |
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| CPFC Town |
| Good news i think espically as there will now be no adverts :lux: |
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| 917L |
| No ads and hopefully the end of James Allen |
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| Trist |
Although I hate the ad breaks I've got to say that ITV have done a fairly good job with F1 over the past few years.
The coverage is much more in depth than it was with the BBC previously. Saying that I always prefer sport on the BBC, it tends to be a bit more special for some reason.
The real bonus is that we'll get the old Fleetwood Mac theme tune back again :)
I wonder who'll do the commentary now? |
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| JonnyF |
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Originally posted by Trist
I wonder who'll do the commentary now?
Basil Brush |
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| swissroll |
| Hopefully the return of 'The Chain'. And keep Martin Brundle |
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| Cyneagle |
| Get the one and only Murray Walker out of retirement. :) |
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| DaveTuttles |
| Funny how thee BBC are suddenly interested now that LH has come along. |
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| fulhameagle |
| Bollocks, ITV have made a really good job of it, even James Allen has become more tolerable. We will probably end up with Gary Lineker presenting as the BBC won't have any footie |
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| Ben H |
| Don't be surprised to see Steve Rider back on the BBC. Can't see Murray Walker coming back; if you remember he went across to ITV when it switched in 1996 then retired a few years later. He must be well into his 70's by now. |
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| Ben H |
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Originally posted by DaveTuttles
Funny how thee BBC are suddenly interested now that LH has come along.
Apparently it was Bernie Ecclestone who approached the BBC not the other way around. |
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| squirrel |
| I'm thrilled that the Beeb have got this back, and I'm pretty sure that Brundle, Rider and Allen will migrate back to the Beeb as Murray Walker did when ITV took over. The team do a damn fine job IMHO, and a race without ads would be fantastic. Though if the race is run on BBC3 or 4, I think they do have ads? |
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| selhurstparkflyer |
| What a waste of taxpayers' money. |
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| Ben H |
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Originally posted by selhurstparkflyer
What a waste of taxpayers' money.
It will get better viewing figures than a lot of the other crap they broadcast.
They should get the Top Gear team to present it.:) |
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| 917L |
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Originally posted by fulhameagle
James Allen has become more tolerable.
No, truly he hasnt. |
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| Trist |
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Originally posted by selhurstparkflyer
What a waste of taxpayers' money.
Personally I don't think it is... buts that's obviously based on the fact that I personally like F1. There's plenty of other stuff that I think is a complete waste of money.
Eastenders for example, is a complete waste of money in my eyes.
Actually, shouldn't it be TV Licence money, not tax money? |
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| Aki Aki Aki |
| I like F1 but the Beeb are really making a big deal of this in their news coverage. |
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| Strathclyde Eagle |
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Originally posted by swissroll
Hopefully the return of 'The Chain'. And keep Martin Brundle
Agreed on both counts.
On the whole though (James Allen aside) it's probably the sport that ITV do the best job with. |
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| fulhameagle |
| Its reportedly costing £40 million a year and it may not have been ITV's choice to drop it. Martin Brundle may well be the reason it's going to the Beeb, isn't he being sued by the FIA? I suppose it depends how vindictive you think Mosley and Ecclestone can be.If Brundle doesn't go with it this is seriously bad |
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| fulhameagle |
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Originally posted by 917L
No, truly he hasnt.
He was starting from a low base :) |
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| Big Blue Eagle |
Good result for all sorts of reasons - the return of The Chain (I mean can you take any broadcaster seriously who used "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet????", no ad breaks at crucial moments, no James Allen inane commentary, plus, more significantly, the "red button" option - BBC are far more advanced on interactive TV than ITV, and also BBC HD - again - ITV are lagging behind.
As for the commentators - definately keep Brundle - he is top notch, and go for Ben Edwards, been a very good commentator since his Eurosport Champcar days. |
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| T at the Palace |
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Originally posted by Big Blue Eagle
Good result for all sorts of reasons - the return of The Chain (I mean can you take any broadcaster seriously who used "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet????", no ad breaks at crucial moments, no James Allen inane commentary, plus, more significantly, the "red button" option - BBC are far more advanced on interactive TV than ITV, and also BBC HD - again - ITV are lagging behind.
As for the commentators - definately keep Brundle - he is top notch, and go for Ben Edwards, been a very good commentator since his Eurosport Champcar days.
Also the BBC are streets ahead of ITV in terms of web based sports coverage. You can see why Bernie Ecclestone wants it on the BBC.
Personally I don't care as long as it is on and I can watch it free. |
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| Twyford Bee |
Interesting news- sounds like it was all Bernie's doing though. According to the BBC he approached them because he thought ITV might have lost their focus, because of other sports they're covering and used the option in the ITV contract to exit.
The issue of interactive coverage will be interesting- F1 ran their own subscription channel for a year a few years ago (with no adverts, different cameras available etc) and then scrapped it after a year to concentrate on the normal coverage. I wonder if the BBC might be able to use any of those ideas. |
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| Strathclyde Eagle |
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Originally posted by Big Blue Eagle
As for the commentators - definately keep Brundle - he is top notch, and go for Ben Edwards, been a very good commentator since his Eurosport Champcar days.
Good shout in my book. |
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| ReadingPalace |
There are no ads on BBC3 or 4.
Personally, I have no interest in motor racing, but I'd much rather the BBC spent money on this rather then contrived 'talent' shows, such as that recent 'Joseph' b*****ks. |
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| pauldrulez |
Would not surprise me if the Stig from Top Gear would become the co-commentator. He has Ascar and Formula Three experience and also is a pundit on the Nascar coverage. For those that don't know, he is rumoured to be Ben Collins.
I would like it to be Brundle and a guest commentator every week. Then Murray Walker could commentate every so often and James Allen and some of the ex-Brit drivers like Johnny Herbert, Eddie Irvine etc.
I would rather Jim Rosenthal than Steve Rider. If I remember rightly then Rosenthal has done the F1 coverage before and was good at it.
I got a weird feeling that the young Asian man that helped present the Cricket World Cup last year will get the job.
BBC Radio 5 commentators might also have something to do with it though.
If Brundle goes I will miss his pit-walks. |
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| Sussex Eagle |
| Cool. Imagine they'll hire half the ITV people you think you'll miss anyway. I want Clarkson, but as long as it's not Yorath no ads F1 will be a way better watch. |
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| 917L |
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Originally posted by pauldrulez
Would not surprise me if the Stig from Top Gear would become the co-commentator. He has Ascar and Formula Three experience and also is a pundit on the Nascar coverage. For those that don't know, he is rumoured to be Ben Collins.
I would like it to be Brundle and a guest commentator every week. Then Murray Walker could commentate every so often and James Allen and some of the ex-Brit drivers like Johnny Herbert, Eddie Irvine etc.
I would rather Jim Rosenthal than Steve Rider. If I remember rightly then Rosenthal has done the F1 coverage before and was good at it.
I got a weird feeling that the young Asian man that helped present the Cricket World Cup last year will get the job.
BBC Radio 5 commentators might also have something to do with it though.
If Brundle goes I will miss his pit-walks.
No chance of Collins, he has no relevant top line experience, it is imperative they keep Brundle.
Why in gods name would you want Allen anywhere near a microphone, he truly is a t*sser. Not many commentaters have a campaign specifically aimed at getting them off air ('Stop the c*ck' in Allens case)
Rider isnt the best but at least he likes motor racing, Rosenthal is worse and knows nothing about the sport at all |
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| pauldrulez |
tbh 917L, I hate James Allen with a passion. But there are not many others that can take his place that I could name off the top of my head. I think the BBC will probably go with a big name that will grab viewers.
Brundle must stay but please get rid of Louise Goodman, she cannot do anything without mentioning Jenson Button. Out of the 4 main people on ITV, Ted Kravitz and Martin Brundle would be the only two I would keep. Kravitz is permanantly correcting Allen when they go to the pits for an update.
I cant really remember Rosenthal but I thought he was good if I remember rightly although Ryder is doing a decent enough job.
When I was at Silverstone there was a man from Sky News doing all the reports over the three days on SilverstoneTV, he might be a good shout for race coverage. He knew exactly what was going on and knew his History about the sport. I will try and find out for sure who he is but I think it is Jeremy Thompson? |
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| 917L |
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Originally posted by pauldrulez
tbh 917L, I hate James Allen with a passion. But there are not many others that can take his place that I could name off the top of my head. I think the BBC will probably go with a big name that will grab viewers.
Brundle must stay but please get rid of Louise Goodman, she cannot do anything without mentioning Jenson Button. Out of the 4 main people on ITV, Ted Kravitz and Martin Brundle would be the only two I would keep. Kravitz is permanantly correcting Allen when they go to the pits for an update.
I cant really remember Rosenthal but I thought he was good if I remember rightly although Ryder is doing a decent enough job.
Agree witg getting rid of Goodman, for someone who has been in and around the sport for so long her ability to appear totally ill educated and ask the most banal of questions would be difficult to surpass..
Kravitz is also a cretin, IMO
Just watch the above two at work on the BTCC coverage, pitiful is the only word.
Charlie Cox wouldnt be a bad shout as commmentator, at least he has raced to a decent standard (BTCC), or they should employ one of the countries specialist motor sport commentators, there are a large number to chose from, all of whom are far better than Allen and actually have atrue knowledge of the sport. Allen appears to think Motorsport began (and ends)with F1 in the same year he started commentating on it
Brundle is a must
Susie Perry would be better than Goodman in the pits
Bring back the Chain
If it had to be betweeen Ryder and Rosenthal I'd keep the former
At least then the coverage would then improve by about 1000%
Maybe we could then start on the regulations themselves, but that wont happen until Bernie releashes his grip and or the idiot Mosley is deposed |
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| pauldrulez |
The man from Sky News was Jeremy Thompson that was on SilverstoneTV. He had a good knowledge of F1 and can present in pressure situations as shown on SkyNews.
I think the majority of the ITV staff will move over but there are rumours that Brundle is not liked within FIA.
FiveLive presenters may end up being used. Who are David Croft, Holly Samos and Maurice Hamilton. The BBC will probably use a 3 person team with 2 men and a women as that is the way they have been going recently. As long as the woman knew what she was on about then I wouldnt mind it too much. |
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| Ridcully |
| Hopefully they'll broadcast in HD too |
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| Ben H |
| Can anyone remember who presented it for BBC before it went to ITV? |
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| Maidstoned Eagle |
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Originally posted by pauldrulez
Holly Samos
The girl who used to be on the Chris Evans Breakfast show?
When Eurosport used to have F1 coverage they had a good line up with John Watson and the chap who commentated on the races at Brands Hatch. |
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| Twyford Bee |
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Originally posted by Ben H
Can anyone remember who presented it for BBC before it went to ITV?
I don't think anybody did, the BBC didn't have any studio discussion before or after the race. It would just be Murray and co-commentator talking over the host broadcaster pictures, from the very start.
ITV did put a lot of effort in to improve the detail of coverage when they took over (but it'll probably be the adverts and James Allen that people remember). |
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| Strathclyde Eagle |
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Originally posted by pauldrulez
FiveLive presenters may end up being used.
I hope not. They're beyond unbearable. |
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| Sussex Eagle |
Papers are claiming Richard Hammond is lined up for the presenting job today - which surely can't be right as in the last series of Top Gear they did a whole feature based around him not rating F1 - admittedly he changed his tune after trying it, but clearly he can't be very well versed.
It's getting a bit annoying how he is still being treated as the star of Top Gear since his crash despite being the least entertaining of the three. |
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| 917L |
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Originally posted by Sussex Eagle
Papers are claiming Richard Hammond is lined up for the presenting job today - which surely can't be right as in the last series of Top Gear they did a whole feature based around him not rating F1 - admittedly he changed his tune after trying it, but clearly he can't be very well versed.
He would be fine as the anchorman, in the Ryder role. You dont need encyclopedic knowledge to do that job (or sany at all in Rosenthals case) |
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| Diggers digs in? |
| Those hoping for the return of "The Chain", I wouldn't hold your breath. At best it'll be a Godforsaken techno remix. |
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| pauldrulez |
Thought I would bump this thread. I cant remember which paper it is but they reckon it is all but confirmed as being Hammond.
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Originally posted by Sussex Eagle
Papers are claiming Richard Hammond is lined up for the presenting job today - which surely can't be right as in the last series of Top Gear they did a whole feature based around him not rating F1 - admittedly he changed his tune after trying it, but clearly he can't be very well versed.
It's getting a bit annoying how he is still being treated as the star of Top Gear since his crash despite being the least entertaining of the three.
The filming of the F1 sequence was in 2006 but was held back due to the crash and other things taking a higher priority in the Jan 07 series. He filmed the F1 car in July and I think I am right in saying it was around Silverstone weekend. But I think since then he was seen at Silverstone Race Party on the Thursday by someone and I know for a fact he was at the Race as I saw him leaving afterwards. I think that using Hammond may mean using James May out of Top Gear as well.
Depending on whether he likes F1 or not he could help as a co-anchor as he could help with the technical side of things. I would like Brundle to stay and the themetune for now isnt too bad. I think it is Moby - Lift Me Up. Wonder what the odds on Motson commentating are since there is no football to commentate on or even Lineker to present it like he used to with the golf. |
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