| milky87 |
I have been going to Palace since the tender age of 4 (1984) so I only really remember from about 88 / 89 so in my opinion Julian Speroni has turned in to the best Palace keeper I have ever seen closely followed by Nigel Martyn.
What does everyone else think (I want to know the best keeper you have SEEN live since going Palace)
Sorry if I have forgotton someone (I know I forgot Burridge) |
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| Psychokiller |
Definitely Nigel Martyn, no contest. Second would possibly be Matt Clarke who looked excellent in the few games he played for us.
My Dad says John Jackson just shades it over Nige because he often didn't wear gloves! |
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| rusheslake |
my head says Nigel Martyn, my heart says Jacko
When I was a kid Jacko was a hero, one of the best
keepers around at that time, should have won an England cap |
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| 917L |
quote:
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Second would possibly be Matt Clarke who looked excellent in the few games he played for us.
Clarke? dont think so
Martyn
Burridge
Jackson
Vaesen |
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| Travelcard |
| The earlier guys are going to fare worse than they deserve of course, but in my Palace supporting days it can only be Nigel Martyn. |
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| Harry Bassett |
Bill Glazier was a superb goalkeeper for Palace.He was sold for a then record £35,000 to Coventry.
Jackson who took over from Glazier played for Palace at a higher level and lived up to his stonewall reputation because we were often under the cosh.
We have had lots of really good goalies Roy Bailey being another.
Nigel Martyn just edges it for me with Bill Glazier second choice. |
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| Panther |
Jackson
Martyn
Burridge
Glazier
in that order for me. No-one else comes close.
Jacko wins over Nigel because he more or less kept us in the old First Div single-handed, whereas Nigel played behind a much better defence. I'll happily admit to an element of rose-tinted (or age-tinted) spectacles on this one. |
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| Neil |
| Martyn - simple as that. |
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| Kevan Woz Awful |
quote:
Originally posted by Harry Bassett
Bill Glazier was a superb goalkeeper for Palace.He was sold for a then record £35,000 to Coventry............
Nigel Martyn just edges it for me with Bill Glazier second choice.
I am astonished that we can have a poll about top Palace goalkeepers that doesn't include Bill Glazier.
I liked Harry Bassett's post and reasoning but come up with a reversed conclusion, although it's very close.
Bill Glazier is the best for me with a fag paper between him and Nigel Martyn with John Jackson a close 3rd. |
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| David of Kent |
| The correct answer is Nigel Martyn. |
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| screamingalice |
It is a close call between Nigel and Jacko. As more poster's on the BBS will recall Nigel's time rather than Jacko (is it really 35 years since he stood between the sticks for us?) I would think NIgel will pick up more votes.
I think Jacko just shades it, on the basis that he kept is in the top division with some outstanding performances and consistancy. The teams he played behind were not as good as those Nigel played in and even if we let in a goal Wrighty or Brighty would get us one back.
In the teams Jacko played in we did not have the quality of strikers we had in NIgels time and if we conceeded in the period 69-73 it was always more difficult to get one back. Hence the importance of the keeper keeping a clean sheet or not letting in too many.
Jacko should have gone to Mexico in 1970 he was im many peoples eyes at that time only second to Gordon Banks. However no doubt playing for Palace did not help his cause. Had he been in goal in that 1/4 final in 1970, instead of Bonetti I am sure we would have gone through to the semi's.
Either way both were great servants for the club and we have much to thank both of them for. |
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| screamingalice |
| Bill Glazier and John Burridge should be on the list |
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| milky87 |
quote:
Originally posted by milky87
Sorry if I have forgotton someone (I know I forgot Burridge)
As I was born in 1980 Bill Glazier means nothing to me. I have apologised in advance as I knew I would have missed out a few top Palace keepers |
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| Mad Max |
quote:
Originally posted by screamingalice
Bill Glazier and John Burridge should be on the list
Seconded |
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| Psychokiller |
| Wasn't Nigel the best of his generation? Personally I thought he was better than Seaman, who was considered the best at that time. Surely if Nigel had played for Arsenal and Liverpool rather than Palace and Leeds he'd have picked up about 100 caps? |
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| Travelcard |
| Have to agree with PK there. |
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| Stonewall |
| Jacko and Nige, both big Hero's as far as I'm concerned. |
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| Sussex Eagle |
| Clearly my vote goes to Nige, I spent several years playing in goal through choice as a young 'un because I idolised him so much. I imagine Jacko would give him a run for his money if he was a bit more 'recent' from everything I've ever heard about the man though. |
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| redders2000 |
| I voted for Nige but was very close over jackson, those two are way ahead of the rest |
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| palace & proud |
| I voted for Nigel Martyn. |
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| jabber |
quote:
Originally posted by Neil
Martyn - simple as that.
You never had the chance to see jacko then. |
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| ReadingPalace |
I voted for Nige, but Jacko would be a close second and I'd but Budgie in 3rd place. Glazier is before my time.
We have had some great keepers over the years, though. |
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| Civic |
quote:
Originally posted by screamingalice
It is a close call between Nigel and Jacko. As more poster's on the BBS will recall Nigel's time rather than Jacko (is it really 35 years since he stood between the sticks for us?) I would think NIgel will pick up more votes.
I think Jacko just shades it, on the basis that he kept is in the top division with some outstanding performances and consistancy. The teams he played behind were not as good as those Nigel played in and even if we let in a goal Wrighty or Brighty would get us one back.
In the teams Jacko played in we did not have the quality of strikers we had in NIgels time and if we conceeded in the period 69-73 it was always more difficult to get one back. Hence the importance of the keeper keeping a clean sheet or not letting in too many.
Jacko should have gone to Mexico in 1970 he was im many peoples eyes at that time only second to Gordon Banks. However no doubt playing for Palace did not help his cause. Had he been in goal in that 1/4 final in 1970, instead of Bonetti I am sure we would have gone through to the semi's.
Either way both were great servants for the club and we have much to thank both of them for.
Agree entirely. John Jackson for me. |
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| hilairehair |
| What are people's views on Paul Barron? I was too young to go to Palace at the time but I remember him being described as one of the best keepers in the old second division. The only footage you ever see of him is that clanger during the 3-4 defeat to Wolves on MOTD in c1983. He got transfered to a first divsion side after Palace (Sheff Weds?) We conceded very few goals in those early 80s wilderness years when you look at the stats. (We scored even fewer obviously! 9 away all season in 81-82?!) |
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| jhc |
It's always hard to pick goalkeepers from different eras, but John Jackson & Nigel Martyn are my top 2 over the years.
Julian Speroni may come into the reckoning, only time will tell.
At the end of his three year contract we'll have a fair idea.
One thing he will have to improve on is crosses, and defending corners in particular. As a shot stopper he's as good as any that's for sure.
Nigel & Jacko had themselves tested at the top level wereas Julian has only been first choice in the Championship.
It will be interesting to see how he does in the Prem. next season! |
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| milky87 |
quote:
Originally posted by jhc
It will be interesting to see how he does in the Prem. next season!
Like it :p |
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| ElwissAtMemphis |
This is a bit a no brainer isn't it ? Surely there are only 2 realistic contenders and Martyn's bound to win being the most recent player and because of his international recognition.
Iain Turner and Thomas Myhre !!!? Some of them were probably weren't even the best keeper in their own families.
Next question: Best Palace Striker.
- Ian Wright
- Tommy Langley
- Chris Jones
- Trevor Aylott
- Andy McCulloch
- Ally Brown
Please think carefully before voting. |
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| Psychokiller |
quote:
Originally posted by ElwissAtMemphis
This is a bit a no brainer isn't it ? Surely there are only 2 realistic contenders and Martyn's bound to win being the most recent player and because of his international recognition.
Iain Turner and Thomas Myhre !!!? Some of them were probably weren't even the best keeper in their own families.
Next question: Best Palace Striker.
- Ian Wright
- Tommy Langley
- Chris Jones
- Trevor Aylott
- Andy McCulloch
- Ally Brown
Please think carefully before voting.
That poll is fixed. You purposely didn't include Gareth Taylor because you knew he'd win hands down. Shame on you. |
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| Spender |
Poll misses the splendid Bill Glazier.
I did not see Vic Rouse.
From watching all keepers fom the great John Jackson onwards it is a clear toss up between Jacko and Nigel Martyn.
Both were in the shake up for England cap consideration. Both were loyal to Palace. I edge vote to Jacko because he almost single handedly kept us in the top flight in a much weaker defenceand stayed longer with the Club I believe.
Both great keepers. |
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| stevek |
| There are only two serious options in this poll - Jackson or Martyn. I've gone for the latter as I'm too young to remember the former. |
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| old geezer |
I am an old f#rt but there is no doubt, in my mind, that Jackson was the best and should have got England caps but was up against Banks and Shilton.
Martyn is my number 2 but Seroni has the potential to surpass him if he continues with this season's form |
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| apple_rain |
quote:
Originally posted by Spender
I did not see Vic Rouse.
He's 8th on the list. |
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| eastern eagle |
Dead heat between Glazier & Martyn. I know this is heresy but Jacko cost us big time the season we got relegated from Division 1. I know a lot of people reckon he kept us there for the first 3 years but he really went off the the boil in his last year,
I also thought paul Hammond was a very good keeper as was Tony Millington for the short while we had him. |
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| Lambeth Palace |
| Nigel Martyn for me by miles followed by Burridge. Jacko was before my time. |
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| Freddy Kurz |
Have seen all of Palace's post-Second World War 'keepers and think
Nigel Martyn was our best, John Jackson second and John Burridge
third.
How could Burridge have been left off Palace's top goal-keepers'
list? When we won the 2nd Division Championship in 1978/9
to gain promotion to Division One our goal difference was an
incredible F51 A24 - this included 21 shut-outs in 42 games!
Had John been 3 or 4 inches taller he would have been Palace's
finest 'keeper and played for England. |
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| Palacemad2002 |
| I voted for Martyn as he was the Keeper at the time of my early boyhood years. I think Nico Vaesen deserves a shout out though. Although he was only here on loan he was great for us between the posts and we wouldnt of been in the premier league without him. 2 penalty saves in a row when each being the vital one for Sunderland...pure class! |
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| Away Day Eagle |
quote:
Originally posted by eastern eagle
Dead heat between Glazier & Martyn. I know this is heresy but Jacko cost us big time the season we got relegated from Division 1. I know a lot of people reckon he kept us there for the first 3 years but he really went off the the boil in his last year,
I also thought paul Hammond was a very good keeper as was Tony Millington for the short while we had him.
Interesting.
Big Mal shipped him our pretty quickly, didn't he ? |
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| Selhurst Celtic |
quote:
Originally posted by Psychokiller
My Dad says John Jackson just shades it over Nige because he often didn't wear gloves!
If any of my team mates wear gloves I always ask them if they intend to play in goal. I can't understand why players wear gloves, how soft must they be?
And I reckon keepers shouldn't wear gloves either. Green jerseys for goalkeepers and no gloves. A return to the source.
And for the benefit of the thread I've voted for Nigel Martyn, the Cornish man with the frying pan hands. Was worried that shaving off his 'tache would be a Samsonesque error (Biblical, not Kenny) but he proved that losing the upper lip fur slug did nothing to diminish his power.
My favourite Palace keeper though is Andy Woodman. A man who loved Palace but was never given the chance. |
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| Selhurst Celtic |
| Why isn't Perry Suckling on that list by the way? |
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| Away Day Eagle |
Perry Suckling is worth a mention.
His one handed save right at the death from Garner in the Blackburn 89 Play Off 2nd leg was superb. |
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| Son of Selhurst |
| Tony Burns |
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| AlgotTheEagle |
I know 9 of these 12 golies and my wote goes to....
Nigel Martyn, true Palace legend and a kid hero from that time when i start to support Palace.
I do like Gabor to for his Premier League season and truck trousers. Hopefully with in a few years Speroni will come close to Martyn. He has every chance to do that. |
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| Selhurst Celtic |
quote:
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
Perry Suckling is worth a mention.
His one handed save right at the death from Garner in the Blackburn 89 Play Off 2nd leg was superb.
:p
What a day. |
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| ElwissAtMemphis |
quote:
Originally posted by Selhurst Celtic
Nigel Martyn, the Cornish man with the frying pan hands.
I've heard that expression before and it's a strange 'compliment' for a goalkeeper. Why do people compare their hands to frying pans ? Because they're big and round ? That's a pretty crap metaphor isn't it.
Or is it because they're non-stick ? When I first heard it, I assumed that it's something to do with that but if you think about it, surely you'd want your keeper's hands to be the opposite of 'teflon coated'. You'd want the ball to stick to his hands on the slightest contact which is the exact opposite of a decent frying pan.
Or have I totally got the wrong end of the stick ? On second thoughts, who really cares ? |
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| Selhurst Celtic |
Hands the size of a frying pan innit.
Like farmers with hands like shovels.
(Not ones that can only accomodate a single fried egg of course. More Wok sized) |
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| GloverUK |
quote:
Originally posted by rusheslake
my head says Nigel Martyn, my heart says Jacko
When I was a kid Jacko was a hero, one of the best
keepers around at that time, should have won an England cap
My sentiments entirely. Nigel was class, and Jackson was the best keeper never to play for England. |
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| Harry Bassett |
One or two of our keepers have a reputation which in the cold light of day are difficult for me to equate to.-Burridge did great hand stands and his walking on hands routine was ok-but although a good shot stopper and acrobatic he was often left floudering on corners.
Paul Hammond was slaughterd by the fans but developed into a good keeper.
Perry Suckling just would not 'stand tall'
From what I was told the lad that took his own life Billy Callender was one of the very best. |
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| stupalace |
quote:
Originally posted by milky87
I have been going to Palace since the tender age of 4 (1984) so I only really remember from about 88 / 89 so in my opinion Julian Speroni has turned in to the best Palace keeper I have ever seen closely followed by Nigel Martyn.
not sure how you can possibly compare the two
Martyn was 9/10 in 99% of every game he played in for 6 seasons .
Speroni has had one good season . |
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| cranesparkeagle |
| Have plumped for Nigel Martyn. I think I only saw John Jackson live once or twice so cannot really judge but by what older people say I can well believe he and Nige were pretty close. No coincidence they were both between the sticks during golden periods in our history. |
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| hilairehair |
quote:
Originally posted by Harry Bassett
From what I was told the lad that took his own life Billy Callender was one of the very best.
He played in 11-4 cup defeat at Man City didn't he? |
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| orp pisshead1 |
quote:
Originally posted by milky87
I have been going to Palace since the tender age of 4 (1984) so I only really remember from about 88 / 89 so in my opinion Julian Speroni has turned in to the best Palace keeper I have ever seen closely followed by Nigel Martyn.
What does everyone else think (I want to know the best keeper you have SEEN live since going Palace)
Sorry if I have forgotton someone (I know I forgot Burridge)
PMSL with respect while speroni has turned into a decent keeper, nigel martyn was simply brilliant imo. |
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| Scarface |
| Without a doubt Kevin Miller. |
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| GDP |
| Sir Nigel Martyn, a brilliant goalkeeper and a genuine fellow. |
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| stupalace |
quote:
Originally posted by Scarface
Without a doubt Keven Miller.
until kevin miller ate him |
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| hilairehair |
quote:
Originally posted by Selhurst Celtic
Hands the size of a frying pan innit.
The big cornishman with the frying pan hands thing came from a live report from Stuart Hall on Radio 5. |
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| stevek |
quote:
Originally posted by stupalace
until kevin miller ate him
PMSL |
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| Travelcard |
quote:
Originally posted by eastern eagle
Dead heat between Glazier & Martyn. I know this is heresy but Jacko cost us big time the season we got relegated from Division 1. I know a lot of people reckon he kept us there for the first 3 years but he really went off the the boil in his last year,
This happened to Martyn too, but luckily not while he was with us. I believe it was when he shaved his moustache off, it held some Samson like qualities.
Obviously towards the end of his career he was back on top form again, but there was certainly a season or two that he was quite below the standard he reached with us. |
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| Sussex Eagle |
quote:
Originally posted by Travelcard
This happened to Martyn too, but luckily not while he was with us. I believe it was when he shaved his moustache off, it held some Samson like qualities.
Obviously towards the end of his career he was back on top form again, but there was certainly a season or two that he was quite below the standard he reached with us.
:confused: You sure? Nige shaved his tache years before he left Palace, and was a huge favourite at Everton and Leeds, winning POTY awards with both, I believe. |
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| Harry Bassett |
| I gave the edge to Nigel Martyn because he played for us at a higher level than Bill Glazier, if Glazier had stayed at the Palace Johnny Jackson would not have got a game. |
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| Boyandy |
Martyn all the way.
One reason.
That Huddersfield save.
Stuff Banks and the one against Pele - the one against Ronnie Jepson was superhuman. |
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| milky87 |
quote:
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
Perry Suckling is worth a mention.
His one handed save right at the death from Garner in the Blackburn 89 Play Off 2nd leg was superb.
One of my earliest memories of Palace :p |
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| CP Satellite |
Like most have already posted, my memories of John Jackson are very limited, so going on what I've seen Nigel Martyn tops the poll for me.
There were a couple of times that he pulled off almost impossible reflex saves, but his all round handling was usually excellent and unlike some of our more recent 'overseas' goalkeepers - Kolinko, Berthelin, Kiraly - he was very reliable at getting to the ball at crosses.
Looking through the record books, Palace seem to have had several keepers who have given long service to the club or gone on to gain International honours or in Dick Graham's case become Palace manager - so let's mention Josh Johnson, Jack Alderson, Billy Callender and after WW2 there was Graham and Roy Bailey who ended up with a League Championship medal when he transferred to Ipswich after playing against them for several years with Palace in Div 3 South! |
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| tony 1947 |
One thing we all agree on is that we have had some great keepers.
I have seen them all since 1960. I personally think Jacko edges over Martyn and Glazier, but not much between them. |
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| alf |
Re Bill Glazier. Palace did sell him for a record transfer fee for a goalie at the time, so I guess that he must have had something about him. He was between the posts when I first started following Palace back in 1963! I can't remember too much about him however - I was a bit too young. I probably spent too much time running around the old grass bank at the Whitehorse Lane end!
I had a feeling that that I read somewhere that Bill Glazier had been in the running for the England 1966 Word Cup Squad but got injured and therefore missed out.
I do remember Jacko and for many years he served Palace very well and possibly was unlucky not to win a full cap - I think he won an English League representative honour of something similar? He was one of my heroes and can always remember seeing actually saw him at the ground when I played there in a school's cup final. |
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| Granada allover |
| Jacko - phenomenal. |
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| calne eagle |
quote:
Originally posted by Panther
Jackson
Martyn
Burridge
Glazier
in that order for me. No-one else comes close.
Jacko wins over Nigel because he more or less kept us in the old First Div single-handed, whereas Nigel played behind a much better defence. I'll happily admit to an element of rose-tinted (or age-tinted) spectacles on this one.
A post that strikes every chord with me (apart from I never saw Glazier). |
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| calne eagle |
quote:
Originally posted by stevek
There are only two serious options in this poll - Jackson or Martyn. I've gone for the latter as I'm too young to remember the former.
My God - you really are that much younger than me....
:o :D ;) |
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| crystaljim |
| So who voted for Kevin Miller!! :eek: |
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| calne eagle |
quote:
Originally posted by crystaljim
So who voted for Kevin Miller!! :eek:
2 of the (fat) (ironic?) bastards. |
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| crystaljim |
quote:
Originally posted by calne eagle
2 of the (fat) (ironic?) bastards.
:o |
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| Hedgehog |
I voted for Nigel Martyn although I only ever saw him on TV.
I grew up with John Jackson, but to be honest I am one of the very few of that era that do not worship at his altar! I can’t put it in words, but he just didn’t look like a keeper, or act like one. Having said that… he was an incredible servant and did amazing things to keep Palace in game they should have been buried in. He always struck me as a Sunday League type keeper! Albeit a good one at that. |
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