| dazaki |
"200m runner" Usain Bolt broke the 100m world record yesterday in New York. He was just using the 100m race to improve his 200m start, and only now that he has the world record has he decided that it might be worth trialling for the 100m Jamaican team for the olympics:eek:
Well done Usain :lux: :lux: :lux: |
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| BIG DAVE |
quote:
Originally posted by dazaki
"200m runner" Usain Bolt broke the 100m world record yesterday in New York. He was just using the 100m race to improve his 200m start, and only now that he has the world record has he decided that it might be worth trialling for the 100m Jamaican team for the olympics:eek:
Well done Usain :lux: :lux: :lux:
Roids????? |
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| crystal essex |
| Sorry i can't get excited about athletics and it's drug tainted world records. |
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| pauldrulez |
Lets not paint everyone with the same brush. He may be clean and an awesome runner.
How low can this record go? Surely not that much lower. |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by pauldrulez
Lets not paint everyone with the same brush. He may be clean and an awesome runner.
It is inconceivable to believe that he did this clean, it would show total naivety to believe otherwise. |
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| pauldrulez |
| I spose. You never know however. Innocent until proven guilty. |
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| Celestial Empire |
He certainly doesn't look like a steroid upped guy, (big and strong but pretty lean), but who knows ?
Look on the bright side, all those Gay v's Powell "duels" that the usual-suspect money men were promoting are suddenly pretty meaningless.
And possibly, one less gold medal for the biggest congenital cheats of all - good ole USA Athletics.:hmph: |
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| jookbeard |
| love the 100m dash , just wish they would let the athletes have a free for all as regards PED's let Gatlin,Tim Montgomery and Dwain compete and what an Olympic final we have |
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| DANCOO |
| Yeah, a load of roided up sprinters displaying very physical effects of roid-rage at the starting line...now that would be funny as hell. |
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| jookbeard |
| As far as I've seen sprinters don't display real roid rage, they are not power lifters,Mr Universe competitors or WWF wrestlers , and the roid part of the chemical cocktail that sprinters such as what Dwaine Chambers had been ingesting is a smaller part as regards of the larger percentage of EPO,Human Growth Hormone,Testosreone etc |
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| chris2344 |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
It is inconceivable to believe that he did this clean, it would show total naivety to believe otherwise.
You can speculate as to the legitimacy of the guy's record, but no need to patronize those who wish to retain some ounce of faith that there may be some clean runners out there. |
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| gold76 |
I think this will stand for a little while, I can't see anyone going below 9.70, that would be a phenominal achievement!
Likewise, I don't see anyone breaking the 200m record in my lifetime either. |
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| pauldrulez |
| Michael Johnson was a freak. 19.32, 2 100m splits of 9.66 average. And he was never accused of drugs, so why shouldnt Bolt be like that considering he is a 200m runner already. |
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| jookbeard |
| I think this guy could break the 200m as well he has already clocked 19.75 |
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| dazaki |
| His 200m splits weren't that fast, His first split was slower, and technically he ran a world record 100m in the home straight, but Bolt would have beaten Johnson over 100m as it took Johnson 100m to hit WR pace. But apart from that I agree, it is unfair to accuse him of drug abuse |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by pauldrulez
Michael Johnson was a freak. 19.32, 2 100m splits of 9.66 average. And he was never accused of drugs, so why shouldnt Bolt be like that considering he is a 200m runner already.
I don't think he ever ran a world record at only his fifth attempt at a distance (we can exclude the comical 300m from this arguement). |
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| DANCOO |
| The guy is 21, he's not even close to peaking! At this rate he will be running sub 9.6 by the time he's 25...hmmm |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by jookbeard
As far as I've seen sprinters don't display real roid rage...
My point is that they probably would should it become legal. |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by chris2344
You can speculate as to the legitimacy of the guy's record, but no need to patronize those who wish to retain some ounce of faith that there may be some clean runners out there.
I apologise to pauldrulez if it came across as patronising, it wasn't meant to, but it really is beyond belief that he has done this clean.
I won't go on, as one of my athletics threads was removed when another poster claimed a certain 400m & 800m champion wasn't clean, all I will say is that it is suspicious beyond belief. |
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| Beanie |
quote:
Originally posted by pauldrulez
Michael Johnson was a freak. 19.32, 2 100m splits of 9.66 average. And he was never accused of drugs, so why shouldnt Bolt be like that considering he is a 200m runner already.
It is my understanding that this is a bit of a red herring. The slowest part of the race is the start and pick up. In running this time Johnson only had to start once, the second 100m had a "flying start". Not saying this isn't an amazing record, but it's not as amazing as equating it to a 9.66 100m. The world record for 4x100 is 37.4 secs, or 100m splits of only just over 9.3 secs, but 3 of the four have "flying starts" so can be compared to a simple 100m. This doesn't work on 400m etc as the distance requires the runner to slow. |
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| jookbeard |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
My point is that they probably would should it become legal.
What I am implying is that pure inducing of anabolic steroids are now only a small part of what athletes who take PED's |
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| jookbeard |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
I apologise to pauldrulez if it came across as patronising, it wasn't meant to, but it really is beyond belief that he has done this clean.
I won't go on, as one of my athletics threads was removed when another poster claimed a certain 400m & 800m champion wasn't clean, all I will say is that it is suspicious beyond belief.
which athlete was that? |
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| pauldrulez |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
I don't think he ever ran a world record at only his fifth attempt at a distance (we can exclude the comical 300m from this arguement).
Im not saying he did, Im just saying that he is a freak and his records will never be beaten, not just in all your lifetimes but mine as well.
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
I apologise to pauldrulez if it came across as patronising, it wasn't meant to, but it really is beyond belief that he has done this clean.
I won't go on, as one of my athletics threads was removed when another poster claimed a certain 400m & 800m champion wasn't clean, all I will say is that it is suspicious beyond belief.
It sounded patronising but I didnt take it as patronising. So dont worry about that. Who was the champion?
quote:
Originally posted by Beanie
It is my understanding that this is a bit of a red herring. The slowest part of the race is the start and pick up. In running this time Johnson only had to start once, the second 100m had a "flying start". Not saying this isn't an amazing record, but it's not as amazing as equating it to a 9.66 100m. The world record for 4x100 is 37.4 secs, or 100m splits of only just over 9.3 secs, but 3 of the four have "flying starts" so can be compared to a simple 100m. This doesn't work on 400m etc as the distance requires the runner to slow.
I know that. Obviously he done a 9.94 or something like that followed by a 9.4 or something, but even so that is incredibly quick. |
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| PedroG |
| The current 200m record is astounding and I didn't think anyone would get near it for years. However, over the past couple of seasons quite a few different people have gone under 20s which hadn't really been seen for a while. Now I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 200m record went in the next few years. |
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| chris2344 |
| It is such a shame its got to this, with all the speculation about runners being clean or not, but a little bit of me really does wanna see just how fast/far/high these pumped up freaks can go! |
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| gadford4th |
I think he did it clean.
Bolt is huge. Surely the mechanics of the human body would point to why he has broken the record? Longer limbs, longer stride, the bigger you are the more powerful you're likely to be..........
As for Michael Johnson's record, have a look at it again. The guy had slowed up so much as he was crossing the line. If he had been going all out it would have been 2/10ths of a second faster still! That is incredible |
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| GJN |
| It would be astonishing if Johnson's record falls. In my eyes the 200m world record is the outstanding one in athletics. I simply do not believe it can be beaten in my life time. Wariner is already being mentored to beat the 400m in time by Johnson himself. I just cant imagine an athlete beating a 9.66 average 100 metre splits. |
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| Palace Kebab |
''in most of the quantifiable Olympic sports, the era of world records is drawing to a close. “We started our study in 1896, when we estimate people were operating at 75% of their physiological capacity. We are now at 99%. When we say there will be no more world records after 2060, it should not be forgotten that in about half of the events, there will be no world records after 2027''
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sp...icle3087427.ece
Flo-Jo's 200m record is absolutely outrageous.
The long jump seems to get stuck. First Bob Beamon for 20 years plus and now Mike Powell, the current one remaining unchanged since 1991. |
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| GJN |
| The triple jump could possibly join the group of world records to stand for a very long time as well. |
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| chelmsfordeagle |
quote:
Originally posted by Palace Kebab
''in most of the quantifiable Olympic sports, the era of world records is drawing to a close. “We started our study in 1896, when we estimate people were operating at 75% of their physiological capacity. We are now at 99%. When we say there will be no more world records after 2060, it should not be forgotten that in about half of the events, there will be no world records after 2027''
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sp...icle3087427.ece
Flo-Jo's 200m record is absolutely outrageous.
The long jump seems to get stuck. First Bob Beamon for 20 years plus and now Mike Powell, the current one remaining unchanged since 1991.
The being at 99% may be true but surely the average man in 2060 will be naturally bigger stronger etc?
as for the long jump the world records are a bit freakish. Beamon broke the record at high altitude and then the Powell/lewis jumps where at tokyo which produced a number of records in speed events. |
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| Sussex Eagle |
| Y'know, steroids don't just make you fast Dancoo. |
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| gold76 |
| Women's 400 metres record also slightly 'suspect' |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by Sussex Eagle
Y'know, steroids don't just make you fast Dancoo.
Really? Thanks, I thought you took them and automatically grew sprint muscles. |
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| Daddy Long |
| Bolt has passed 6 drug tests already THIS YEAR. He ran under 10 seconds 3 times in May. One of them was 9.76 sec which was then the second fastest time in history. Lets put this one down to a combination of an excellent Jamaican training structure and sublime god given talent and leave it at that. |
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| pauldrulez |
| Well said that man. |
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| jookbeard |
quote:
Originally posted by gold76
Women's 400 metres record also slightly 'suspect'
alot of the womens records are suspect
100/200 m Flo Jo
400 m Marita Koch
800m Jarmila Kratochvilova
1500 m Qu Yunxia
3000/10k Wang Junixia
all suspect beyond belief plus the relays and all the women's throwing events and all the swimming events held by East Bloc/Chinese athletes from the 70's/80's and 90's , whats always concerned me about the IAAF and the IOC is the demonising of the great Ben Johnson who won the greatest 100m race of all time (only 1 runner was clean in that 100m final and it wasn't Lewis or Chtistie) |
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| PedroG |
| When you list them out like that you are spot on. Can't see a clean one anywhere there. Terrible shame. |
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| gadford4th |
Just seen him run at Crystal Palace. Sub 20seconds in the 200 without really trying.
World Record is definitely for the taking in China. |
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| GJN |
| Yeah he eased up before he got to the line - but he still has 0.44 seconds to go. If were to beat the world record in the final he could end up 10 metres ahead of the whole field :o |
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| Celestial Empire |
quote:
Originally posted by jookbeard
whats always concerned me about the IAAF and the IOC is the demonising of the great Ben Johnson who won the greatest 100m race of all time (only 1 runner was clean in that 100m final and it wasn't Lewis or Chtistie)
Just seen this, totally agree.
How can anyone call Michael Johnson or Usain Bolt "freaks" ? Now Kratochvilova, that was something different. :eek:
Bolt sounds like a real Jamaican (pretty incomprehensible ;) ), not like the normal, 10 years on a US "sports scholarship" type Afro-Caribbean athlete. |
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| jookbeard |
| Great run , made the hair's on the back of my neck stand on end, love to see him break the 200m W/R hope he doubles up as well, |
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| Bartman |
| Edit - Good grief I must have been bored. |
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| firesign |
Shame GB doesn't have any world class 200m runners anymore - and our 100m guys aren't that great either.
Was good to see Palace fan Martyn Rooney win the 400m in 44.83 seconds to go 10th on the all-time UK list. |
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| Ben H |
quote:
Originally posted by firesign
Shame GB doesn't have any world class 200m runners anymore - and our 100m guys aren't that great either.
Is it because they're clean?
Re: Rooney, saw him being interviewed yesterday and he said he lives 2 miles down the road from Crystal Palace. Anyone know where exactly he lives? |
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| Halftime Gold |
quote:
Originally posted by Palace Kebab
''in most of the quantifiable Olympic sports, the era of world records is drawing to a close. “We started our study in 1896, when we estimate people were operating at 75% of their physiological capacity. We are now at 99%. When we say there will be no more world records after 2060, it should not be forgotten that in about half of the events, there will be no world records after 2027''
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sp...icle3087427.ece
Flo-Jo's 200m record is absolutely outrageous.
The long jump seems to get stuck. First Bob Beamon for 20 years plus and now Mike Powell, the current one remaining unchanged since 1991.
I'd guess thats actually a healthier position to be in(other than the 80's eastern block records) with reguards the doping than the constant small one ups we see it alot of events. You can look at Johnson and see he was a very unconventional runner, the kind of guywho might only come along every 20-30 years. |
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| jookbeard |
| Tyson Gay declared fit for the Olympic 100m |
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| pauldrulez |
| Rooney lives around Thornton Heath I believe, his brother is in the year below me and my friend is good mates with his brother (wonder why;)). When Rooney done the 4x400 relay the school stopped. I werent complaining, beats Geography really. |
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| pauldrulez |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
It is inconceivable to believe that he did this clean, it would show total naivety to believe otherwise.
Can I just drag this quote back up.
There has been nothing shown of any drugs taken.
In the swimming today, they said that after a world record is made, they give a urine sample.
I bet Phelps is always having a leak. |
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| GJN |
| Well even if he does, he can not leave the building until he provides a sample. If he refuses he doesn't get a medal. At least that is my understanding of things - yes I realise you meant that tongue in cheek? :) |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by pauldrulez
Can I just drag this quote back up.
There has been nothing shown of any drugs taken.
In the swimming today, they said that after a world record is made, they give a urine sample.
I bet Phelps is always having a leak.
Firstly, an athlete can reap the benfits of drug abuse years after they have stopped taking them.
Secondly, Jamaica don't even have an anti-doping policy and opted out of the Caribbean's Anti-Doping organisation. |
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| pauldrulez |
| But when you break a world record you must provide a test now or it doesnt count, unless Jamaica have created a falsified world record |
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| DANCOO |
Food for thought:
Marion Jones never failed a drug test.
Also, the IAAF has been criticised in it's drug testing methods. |
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| DANCOO |
| I will try and find the article. |
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| jookbeard |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
Food for thought:
Marion Jones never failed a drug test.
Also, the IAAF has been criticised in it's drug testing methods.
Nor did Flo Jo |
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| Sodermalm |
quote:
Originally posted by Ben H
Is it because they're clean?
Not sure if you are joking... if you are not, what makes you think the average Brit is less likely to take something than any other nationality?
There has been some drivel posted on this thread, mainly by Dancoo; Martina Koch, Ben Johnson and a couple of others were obviously cheating f**kers but most athletes are clean and in my opinion, to criticise them is not right, they deserve respect.
World records are there to be broken; athletes get bigger, faster, improve technically, have better diets, better minds, better genes, get better financial rewards, more fame etc etc
Did runners 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago get accused of cheating? Just because a very small minority have cheated in the last couple of decades, the average person, who probably knows very little about the sport, training methods and nutrition, feels qualified to doubt their hard-earned achievements. Nonsense. |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by Sodermalm
There has been some drivel posted on this thread, mainly by Dancoo; Martina Koch, Ben Johnson and a couple of others were obviously cheating f**kers...
'And a couple of others...' LMFAO. |
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| Adlerhorst |
quote:
Originally posted by pauldrulez
But when you break a world record you must provide a test now or it doesnt count, unless Jamaica have created a falsified world record
Wasn't the 9.72 run in New York. |
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| Adlerhorst |
quote:
Originally posted by jookbeard
Nor did Flo Jo
FWIW I don't think Carl Lewis did either. |
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| pauldrulez |
quote:
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Wasn't the 9.72 run in New York.
Precisely, even more likely that it was clean. |
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| DANCOO |
quote:
Originally posted by pauldrulez
Precisely, even more likely that it was clean.
Why do ignore statements which may nullify your arguement...
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
...an athlete can reap the benfits of drug abuse years after they have stopped taking them.
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| Strathclyde Eagle |
| Did anyone see the Colin Jackson programme which touched somewhat on genetics and the popularity of high school athletics in Jamaica. It was possibly a bit simplistic/naive, but the combination of genetics and their environment did offer an alternative to the PED-assisted means of high performance. |
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| pauldrulez |
So every athlete is a drugs cheat then?
As Strathers says, most of the Jamaicans are good at their sprinting with womens and mens.
There is never 100% proof but they might as well just cancel the Olympics if some people cant accept that he may/may not be clean. |
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| DANCOO |
He may be clean, I don't believe he is.
I'll expect him to be running 9.55 when he peaks in a few years then. |
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| pauldrulez |
| They reckon that the top 3 have run sub 9.7 anyway. I cant remember who said it, may have been Wallace Spearmon saying that they could all run 9.6 which I think is highly unlikely even with major training routines. But should someone do that then there will always be questions |
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| pauldrulez |
Found it...
American 200m star Wallace Spearmon believes all three sprinters could run under 9.70 seconds.
"I honestly think Bolt can run 9.6 seconds, Asafa can run 9.6 and a healthy Tyson can run 9.6," he said.
"Four athletes ran faster than 9.90 seconds in 2004 but that might be like sixth place here." |
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| jookbeard |
| Got my breath back, so pleased to see the 100/200 19.30 ,what were the splits? his first 100 was breathtaking |
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| €pfc |
| did he slow down for the finish like the 100m race? |
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| jookbeard |
quote:
Originally posted by €pfc
did he slow down for the finish like the 100m race?
no he went at full steam |
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| Chester |
quote:
Originally posted by jookbeard
no he went at full steam
Which still looked like a jog :D |
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| Paul Romain |
| I got the impression Michael Johnson is a bit p issed off - although trying very hard to appear not to be! |
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| GrayP41ace |
quote:
Originally posted by gold76
I think this will stand for a little while, I can't see anyone going below 9.70, that would be a phenominal achievement!
Likewise, I don't see anyone breaking the 200m record in my lifetime either.
What ever you think, you should always bet on the opposite :D
P.s. I hope you were still alive to witness it :p |
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| jansabo |
| Even more impressive - he did it running headwind. |
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| AJ |
| I am not going to suggest that Bolt is "juicing" or not, but, this is a games where very few track and field world records have fallen, which has me thinking that it is becoming harder and harder to "hide" the use of drugs. |
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| GrayP41ace |
quote:
Originally posted by DANCOO
Why do ignore statements which may nullify your arguement...
Why do you ignore them too? He's taken test after test and all have been shown to be negative, so as far as we know it's believed he's clean?
Like you have said, he's 21, are you saying he was possibly on drugs for a few years then stopped taking them a couple of years ago? When would he have stopped to be able to reap the benefits? Cause he was breaking records at junior championships as well, surely being tested there too.
Maybe he was being pumped full of PED's with his chicken nuggets and smiley faces when he was a 5 year old :rolleyes:
I appreciate that a fair few have been 'outed' in years gone by, but maybe, just maybe, a genuinely super fast •••••• holds the record legitimately. |
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| Billyd |
quote:
Originally posted by GrayP41ace
Why do you ignore them too? He's taken test after test and all have been shown to be negative, so as far as we know it's believed he's clean?
Not really the point, if hes taking them then they arent being shown up on tests, just like marion jones etc did for many years untill the testing became more advanced |
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| MasterYoda |
had my doubts when he did his 9.72 but I do believe he's clean. I think he's just the first tall sprinter to get his legs going at the same speed as the shorter guys. That makes all the difference in this case.
I think he's remodeled what we think a sprinter should look like |
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| GDP |
Incredible performance from Bolt, even more impressive after seeing that he was running into a headwind.
Thats what the Olympics are all about! |
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| Paul Romain |
quote:
Originally posted by AJ
I am not going to suggest that Bolt is "juicing" or not, but, this is a games where very few track and field world records have fallen, which has me thinking that it is becoming harder and harder to "hide" the use of drugs.
i don't think too many track and field event world records usually do get broken in the Olympics. There are a number of reasons for that, such as the lack of pace makers that are often used at grnad prix meetings etc, the dependence on the speed of the track, the weather etc being right at the time, the tendency for races other than sprints to be tactical, the need to go through a number of rounds, nerves...and perhaps even the lack of any sponsors bonuses for a record to be broken. |
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| norwood_girl |
Fantastic to watch both of his world record breaking performances :D
However a bit sad to see that the original silver and bronze medalists were disqualified :( |
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| norwood_girl |
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Romain
I got the impression Michael Johnson is a bit p issed off - although trying very hard to appear not to be!
Just seen his interview with Gaby Yorath, he seems OK with the fact that it was his record for 12 years and that it was not broken whilst he was still competing. |
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| pauldrulez |
| He said it wasnt his record anymore as he isnt competing and he wanted him to break it as much as any other. |
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| Essexeagle |
quote:
Originally posted by jookbeard
no he went at full steam
It was awesome to watch.
When you watch the head on camera replay you see him glancing at the clock down the straight twice - he obviously had splits he knew he had to hit to take the record (and I guess if he knew he was .2 or .3 down he would have eased up)
The last 20m he just gritted his teeth, dug deep and drove even harder. It was immense determination.
It goes to show how amazing Johnson's run was (as Johnson could have shaved time off that in Atlanta as he wasn't running 100% at the line), but Bolt will just get better and better. |
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| IanH |
| Is he a "clean" athlete though? |
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| Golf Boy |
quote:
Originally posted by IanH
Is he a "clean" athlete though?
In a minority if he was |
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| Freddy Kurz |
No one can be sure if he is "clean" but testing is becoming increasingly rigorous world-wide, and his phenomenal speed could well be explained
by his exceptional natural attributes, especially his height, length of
stride, balance, cardio-vascular system, temperament & intelligence.
Combine all these genetic factors with his own desire and will-to-win
& the expertise of his coaches in Jamaica and one has some reasons
for his superlative achievements.
Injury apart, there seems to be nothing standing in Bolt's way from
his setting records over the next few years that could last two or
three decades. |
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| Freddy Kurz |
quote:
Originally posted by Golf Boy
In a minority if he was
Your concrete evidence for this assertion please? |
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| pauldrulez |
| If you think he is a drugs cheat and all good athletes are cheats then why do people bother watching it. Why dont you just piss off and let those of us that actually care about the Olympics more than the money-grabbing pricks that play football watch the sports and the spectacle that is Usain Bolt. |
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| ebyeeckeagle |
I wonder how often Tiger Woods has been independently drug tested, both in and out of competition, the past few years?
Oh, never. A bit suspcious to me. |
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| pauldrulez |
| And Bolt has been tested 7 times during this Olympics alone. The Jamaican team has been tested 42 times. |
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| jookbeard |
| can those please post another thread about whether his is clean or not?, in the meantime I'm applauding the guy, what we have seen this week is something so special |
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| pauldrulez |
Agreed.
Its only 1 or 2% complaining about him being too good so he must be on drugs. Maybe they should watch the other events like cycling where we have dominated, maybe they are on drugs as well, or Adlington or the Rowers or Ohuruogu.
I am not accusing these, but they all won gold medals and therefore must be on drugs :rolleyes: |
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| GrayP41ace |
quote:
Originally posted by Billyd
Not really the point, if hes taking them then they arent being shown up on tests, just like marion jones etc did for many years untill the testing became more advanced
So basically he's guilty until proven innocent, then when proven innocent in a drugs test, he's still guilty until a 'better' drugs test can prove him innocent.
All the drugs cheats really have tarnished the sport of athletics as no one will ever be behind a record holder totally clean again without suspicion, it's quite sad really. |
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| Golf Boy |
quote:
Originally posted by ebyeeckeagle
I wonder how often Tiger Woods has been independently drug tested, both in and out of competition, the past few years?
Oh, never. A bit suspcious to me.
Has he never been tested? I don't know.
I make my living teaching the game and still can't find where it could be an advantage to take drugs of any kind. |
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| Golf Boy |
quote:
Originally posted by jookbeard
can those please post another thread about whether his is clean or not?, in the meantime I'm applauding the guy, what we have seen this week is something so special
It sure is. He is a fantastic athelete.
Ben Johnson was too. As was Marion Jones and many others. |
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| saxoneagle |
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Has he never been tested? I don't know.
I make my living teaching the game and still can't find where it could be an advantage to take drugs of any kind.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m..._drug_test.html
Apparently Tiger has tested himself...! :D |
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| Billyd |
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As was Marion Jones and many others.
she got caught dopping, 8 years later... |
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| Golf Boy |
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Originally posted by Billyd
she got caught dopping, 8 years later...
great athlete though |
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| ebyeeckeagle |
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Originally posted by Golf Boy
Has he never been tested? I don't know.
I make my living teaching the game and still can't find where it could be an advantage to take drugs of any kind.
I admire the code of conduct amongst golfers. But part of that, for some golfers, must surely be possibility of discovery. Money always taints things. So why wouldn't some try things not tested or likely to be discovered?
Can you seriously say, that at the very top level, drugs would not help recovery from injury, help them train better, increase fast-twitch muscle fibre?
Why wouldn't this be as helpful in golf as in other sports, particularly as it becomes more 'athletic' (if I am correct in that latter assumption)? |
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