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Ipswich Town are ready to move manager George Burley ‘upstairs’ to make way for former Leicester manager Peter Taylor, says The Daily Mirror. Town are struggling in Division One after being relegated from the Premiership last season and chairman David Sheepshanks could take drastic action. Taylor is out of a job after leaving Brighton in the summer
look I know it is only the start of the season and all.... but we really should try and get geoge burley. he plays good...NO GREAT passing and attacking type of football he also gets players from the youth team and players for quite cheap then makes them great. and just look how far i took ipswich. at one stage they was even talking about the england job for him!!!!
just what we need at palace.
we must try and get him now while thier is still trouble at thier camp. because there may never get a better chance to get him. :p |
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| The Eagleman |
| Burley or Taylor would be good for palace. Come to think of it anything would be better than TF :sob: |
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| Stavros 69 |
| Burley would be great for us no doubt. Get him in Francis out |
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| Boyandy |
I really can't see why everyone is banging on about Peter Taylor as a replacement for Francis - ex-palace or not!
His track record is certainly no better than Trevs - failed at Southend and spectacularly at Leicester, although I acknowledge that O'Neill was a very hard act to follow.
The only success he has had is where he's taken on teams built by other people - Gillingham (Pullis) and The Seaweed (Adams) and at no time has he really achieved this by playing attractive attacking football.
I admit that he had some success with the under 21's - but then again I would also say that he happened to get an extremely talented crop of youngsters at the time. The fact that Platt now runs the team shows that it can't be that difficult...
Taylor might be one person that would come to us, but I can't see it achieving anything. Burley would be nice - but it's not going to happen!
(and I realise that I've used a George Burley thread to bang on about Peter Taylor but I think I got carried away :) ) |
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| Jimbo ? |
| while they havent started that well - they have been in europe and have got a bout 10 games in hand - 2-3 wins and they will be up in the p/o |
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| firesign |
| I'm a fan of Peter Taylor but I wouldn't get rid of Burley to bring him in. I think Ipswich are crazy to think about move Burley. If he does move upstairs I reckon it will only be a temporary thing - someone will offer him a job before the end of the season. |
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| Cleon |
If Burley was available, I'd definitely take him. However:
a-he's not available
b-he wouldn't come
(PS-I concur re: Taylor - I'd rather keep Francis than risk disaster with Taylor) |
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| sydney eagle |
| I'm a fan of Burley,he's a good manager.I'd like to see him at Palace but sadly it's just not going to happen |
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| Sir.S.C Remembered |
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Originally posted by Boyandy
I really can't see why everyone is banging on about Peter Taylor as a replacement for Francis - ex-palace or not!
His track record is certainly no better than Trevs - failed at Southend and spectacularly at Leicester, although I acknowledge that O'Neill was a very hard act to follow.
The only success he has had is where he's taken on teams built by other people - Gillingham (Pullis) and The Seaweed (Adams) and at no time has he really achieved this by playing attractive attacking football.
I admit that he had some success with the under 21's - but then again I would also say that he happened to get an extremely talented crop of youngsters at the time. The fact that Platt now runs the team shows that it can't be that difficult...
Taylor might be one person that would come to us, but I can't see it achieving anything. Burley would be nice - but it's not going to happen!
(and I realise that I've used a George Burley thread to bang on about Peter Taylor but I think I got carried away :) )
I have never agreed more with a person!
What I have been trying to say for a long time. Burley's pragmatic calculated passing game (which i dont usually like) would be nice I think although not that free flowing. We really need a Brazilian manager :) |
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| sydney eagle |
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Originally posted by Sir.S.C Remembered
We really need a Brazilian manager :)
and a few players too like Rivaldo ;)
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| pallet |
| With Steve Cotterill leaving Stoke, looks like he is on his way to Ipswich. |
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| Raf |
| Don't think so mate. He's already been confirmed as no.2 to Wilkinson at Sunderland. |
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| Icy |
I heard Cotteril has been confirmed as Sunderland manager with Howard Wilkonson as director of football. To me this seems like a stupid decison as Cotteril hasnt done anything of merit and has sweet F.A experience and Wilkonson is ****. In fact only TF is worse. They sacked Reid for this???
As for big George replacing Francis that would be a dream come true, even better than my Reid in Francis out idea. Dont think either will happen. |
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| El Aguila |
| Wilkinson also has F.A. experience, Icy. |
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| sydney eagle |
quote:
Originally posted by El Aguila
Wilkinson also has F.A. experience, Icy.
does the F.A stand for F***** Abysmal?:D |
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| nookiebear |
| Burley has just been sacked. |
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| The Omen |
Burley for Palace!!! ;)
Just wanted to be the first to say it! |
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| The Omen |
| Thought I might as well start the inevitable thread. :) |
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| grovesy77 |
I think this proves that TF is on borrowed time.
Burley 2 wins in 12 - SACKED
Molby 2 wins in 12 - SACKED
Ried 2 wins in 9 - SACKED
Francis 2 wins in 12 - Please Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Benzhiyi |
| Great manager, but he'd never survive our fickle fans. Burley took five years to turn Ipswich around, whereas judging by some of our lot we'd give him a maximum of five games. |
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| AddiscombeEagle |
| Shocker, also a stupid decision I think. |
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| Riccardo |
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Originally posted by The Omen
Thought I might as well start the inevitable thread. :)
In General Chit Chat ? :D |
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| DaveyF |
This is a sad indication of the state of football these days.
I thought Burley was a good manager and did a hell of a lot at Ipswich.
They go and sack him after 9 games. What do they want... blood. If this was the rule for all managers then Francis would have gone ages ago, would Dave Jones still be at Wolves. John Gregory would have been booted form Derby... the list is endless. |
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| The Omen |
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Originally posted by Riccardo
In General Chit Chat ? :D
hmmmm. I think I may have clicked on the wrong forum!! :) Can someone move it please! :p |
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| firesign |
I'm not shocked but I agree that it's a stupid decision.
Roeder to go next I reckon.
Reid to Ipswich
Burley to Stoke
Graham or O'Leary to West Ham
Molby to Exeter
Roeder to the DSS
Francis goes nowhere |
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| Cleon |
Ipswich have sacked Burley?! Kabba the destoryer of men!!
I'd have him in a second, but I doubt he would come. |
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| wedgetail |
| He would be first choice if it were even remotely possible. |
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| Ouch that Hurt! |
| How about Luis Felipe Scolari? |
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| sydney eagle |
I doubt he'll be out of work long.....
I'd love to have him at Palace:) |
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| GreatGonzo |
| If Burley had the choice of Stoke or Palace which do you think he would choose? |
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| Al from Bromley |
"Burley 2 wins in 12 - SACKED
Molby 2 wins in 12 - SACKED
Ried 2 wins in 9 - SACKED "
Just out of interest, how many defeats? |
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| Al from Bromley |
"Burley took five years to turn Ipswich around, whereas judging by some of our lot we'd give him a maximum of five games."
TF out sheep please take note. |
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| cpfcben |
no thanks!
don't think he would be right for the palace!! |
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| GreatGonzo |
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Originally posted by cpfcben
no thanks!
don't think he would be right for the palace!!
ROFLMFAO! :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: |
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| Little Matt |
| The floodgates have opened. Cash-strapped chairmen and boards are pressing the panic button after a few bad results. I really think that this sort of behaviour, which started in earnest two seasons ago, and has got steadily worse will do far more harm to football that the loss of the ITV cash. Some of the money men behind the sceness still believe that that they can buy success with a gamble (a la Goldberg) and risk all for it. If thinks aren't going their way the fear sets in and the axe starts to swing. I do wonder when some people will realise that only a few clubs will ever be truly successful, and the rest, including us, will have to make to with highs and lows, relegations and mid table 'security'. There can't be 92 champions. |
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| Eagle Kneevil |
This is shocking and I thought Ipswich were a well run club. Burley is an excellent manager who has proved consistently that he can bring the best of average players. He also has the ability to spot abilities in players that other managers have missed and get good value from them.
Ipswich are still in the UEFA Cup for Chrissakes and Burley should have been given the chance to hoist the team into the play-offs.
I bet Sunderland fans are kicking themselves now as he would have been a great replacement for Peter Reid rather than Wilko. For what it's worth, I'd be dribblingly happy to have Burley as manager at Palace. It won't happen because Jordan won't pay up Francis's wages but one can dream nonetheless. |
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| grovesy77 |
The number of defeats are:
Ipswich - Lost 4
Sunderland - Lost 5
Hull - Lost 4 |
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| Daddy Long |
| I would love to see Burley take the reins at Palace. I find it surprising that their board has sacked him when he's had to deal with a very strenous run of games with a limited squad. They're in Europe for God's sake, add to that the number of games in the 1st div and its not easy. I think they may regret getting rid of him. But I would like to see us benefit from their loss. He likes to play nice football, ball on the ground but with a high work rate. Get him in. |
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| Eagle Kneevil |
When Burley puts it like this you have to ask Ipswich, how much more do you frigging want???
Burley said: "It was a tremendous opportunity to come back to manage Ipswich Town after 14 years as a player.
"During my eight years as manager I have enjoyed some great successes. Most significantly taking the club back into the Premiership, finishing fifth and qualifying for Europe after a 20-year absence.
"I was delighted to be recognised for these achievements with both the FA Premiership Manager of the Year Award and the Managers' Manager of the Year Award.
"I would like to thank all the Board, staff and players for their loyal support and in particular to our fans who have supported me tirelessly throughout my time as manager.
"It has been pleasing to see supporter levels grow from an 11,000 average in my first season to an average of 25,000 fans today.
"I am proud of bringing through some of the best young players in the country such as Kieron Dyer, Richard Wright, James Scowcroft and, this season, Darren Bent and Darren Ambrose.
"Over that time I have bought players from lower leagues and developed them into regular international players such as Matt Holland and Hermann Hreidarsson, whilst continually having to generate vital income through the transfer market." |
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| firesign |
| Palace - 1 defeat in last 10 games :p |
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| Daddy Long |
They finish 3rd in Div 1 two years running, then get promoted, finish 5th in
the prem, beat Inter Milan, then have a bad season and get relegated
(although they still played good football), due to bad financial running of
the club he is forced to sell his top-scorer and defender, they have a bad
run in Div 1 (even though they have a few games in hand and if they won
those would be in the top 10 + they won away in europe the other day) and he
gets sacked? Ridiculous. |
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| Gooders |
This sacking really doesn't make any sense does it? I feel sure that Ipswich would have been up there challenging before too long.
The panic buttons appear to be being pressed all over the shop at the moment. |
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| Baloo |
Never mind our club being a laughing stock. The whole football industry is a joke at the moment.
Can't wait to see how Ipswich will blame this on the ITV Digital bandwagon ploughing through every other club's excuse-box. :rolleyes: |
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| Sunny Fan |
Crazy decision.
I've always thought of Ipwich's board as decent and patient, I really think they've shot themselves in the foot with this; Burley will get snapped up very quickly by someone. |
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| Psychokiller |
I don't understand this decision.
It's obvious to everyone, evidently except the Ipswich board, that the only reason Ipswich have struggled is because the European games have taken their toll on what is basically a pretty weak squad (in Premiership terms). They were always going to struggle this season, having to enter the Worthless cup at the earlier stage, play more games in the league and competing in Europe. All Burley is guilty of is progressing too quickly. Perhaps if the board had dug a bit deeper into their pockets they wouldn't be where they are now (which isn't such a tragic place to be when you have games in hand over more or less everyone)!
He shouldn't be getting sacked, he should be being offered share options for what he's done for them! |
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| Eagle Kneevil |
I'm up to 21st in the BBS Fantasy League after missing the first two weeks of the season. All players are firing on all cylinders for want of a better cliche. I'm only 40 points off the top five.
Should I fear the chop? |
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| muffdaddy |
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Originally posted by Baloo
Can't wait to see how Ipswich will blame this on the ITV Digital bandwagon ploughing through every other club's excuse-box. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I bet they will use ITV Digital as a convenient scapegoat. Never mind the fact that they are in the UEFA Cup and probably recovering the funds they lost from ITV Digital in the first place. I'm sure they've got relegation "parachute payments" from the Premiership, too. |
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| El Aguila |
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Originally posted by Sunny Fan
Crazy decision.
I've always thought of Ipwich's board as decent and patient, I really think they've shot themselves in the foot with this; Burley will get snapped up very quickly by someone.
They are pretty much the last club (apart from Crewe!) who you would expect to do this. |
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| lost eagle |
The Ipswich board seem to be amazingly shortsided, however could this be good news for us we should sign him up now.
An no I am not one of the boo boys but he is a vastly superior manager and we should be straight in for him before anyone else tries |
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| lost eagle |
| Opps that should be shortsighted |
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| Lords Eagle |
| wish wish wish wish please please please please George come to Palace :p |
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| Dan9 |
Maybe he could replace Francis????
Wat do u all ThinK????? |
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| Celestial Empire |
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Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Great manager, but he'd never survive our fickle fans. Burley took five years to turn Ipswich around, whereas judging by some of our lot we'd give him a maximum of five games.
Claptrap (are you listening AfB ?). Burley has been at Ipswich for 8 years, they have been doing well for 6-7, (2 years in the Prem, 3 or 4 ? in the play-offs, and this year).
Didn't like that bit about Herman - he was a Brentford / Palace discovery. |
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| Ian of Chatham |
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Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Great manager, but he'd never survive our fickle fans. Burley took five years to turn Ipswich around, whereas judging by some of our lot we'd give him a maximum of five games.
Absolutely right.
You can dismiss this as clap-trap as well if you want Celestial Empire, but if Francis did get the sack and if Jordan dares to employ a manager who has no previous links with the club to replace him I cannot wait to read some of the responses on here. They will be on the lines of "I wish we got (insert person's name here , bit no doubt he will have a link with the club)" and (insert new manager's name here) is not the right for Palace". So I doubt that some people would even give him five minutes let alone five games. |
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| biggus mickus |
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Originally posted by Ian of Chatham
Absolutely right.
You can dismiss this as clap-trap as well if you want Celestial Empire, but if Francis did get the sack and if Jordan dares to employ a manager who has no previous links with the club to replace him I cannot wait to read some of the responses on here. They will be on the lines of "I wish we got (insert person's name here , bit no doubt he will have a link with the club)" and (insert new manager's name here) is not the right for Palace". So I doubt that some people would even give him five minutes let alone five games.
Where are they now?
Oh yes, thats right? |
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| biggus mickus |
How about, he got lucky?
Then he was not so lucky?
Then he got sacked!
Are you Coppell in disguise!
are you Coppell in disguise! |
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| cumbrian_eagles |
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Originally posted by Ian of Chatham
Absolutely right.
You can dismiss this as clap-trap as well if you want Celestial Empire, but if Francis did get the sack and if Jordan dares to employ a manager who has no previous links with the club to replace him I cannot wait to read some of the responses on here. They will be on the lines of "I wish we got (insert person's name here , bit no doubt he will have a link with the club)" and (insert new manager's name here) is not the right for Palace". So I doubt that some people would even give him five minutes let alone five games.
Burley Out. :veryangry
How's that? :) |
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| Al from Bromley |
So many people are of the belief that a particular manager will make the difference for Palace but in my opinion most of them are much of a muchness, some getting lucky for a short spell, others having the luxury of untold millions to invest in order to buy success. Who was the manager of Norwich when they were a success and beat Bayern Munich? Whatever happened to him? Why have Hodgson and Evans done nothing since their spells at previous clubs? if George Graham is such a genius why isnt he in the game these days?
Success under any manager doeasnt come overnight, despite what some of you might believe. All the cries of "Let's get Burley" "What about Peter Taylor" etc etc are all well and god but the truth is success takes time, and time is something that most Palace fans aren't prepared to give anyone . |
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| Celestial Empire |
I have never suggested "Francis out".
Like the majority on here, I am unimpressed so far - he obviously is unable to get the best out of our strong squad (yes he has done a fair job on the squad building side). He is towards the end of his career and fairly predictable (except the substitutions !)
Burley is my kind of manager. Trying to ignore his excellent record by blatant bulldust, just to make a debating point, is not very honest or constructive.
Why did the Palace fans give Coppell plenty of time ? Because we were pretty desperate (more than now), and he was convincing.
George Burley would also convince our fans (and more importantly, our players and owner). |
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| firesign |
| If Scotland don't beat Iceland (very likely) I reckon Bertie Vogts could be out on his ear pretty sharpish now that there is a decent Scottish manager available. |
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| Ian of Chatham |
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Originally posted by Celestial Empire
Burley is my kind of manager. Trying to ignore his excellent record by blatant bulldust, just to make a debating point, is not very honest or constructive.
Why did the Palace fans give Coppell plenty of time ? Because we were pretty desperate (more than now), and he was convincing.
George Burley would also convince our fans (and more importantly, our players and owner).
Yes we were desperate under Coppell then but the way I see it we have all changed, certainly our expectations anyway. If the "blatant bulldust" you refer to "just to make a debating point" is my last point then I am NOT sorry if you find it "not very honest or constructive", but I remember too much the the threads at the time both Bruce and Francis were appointed and I think you'll find that both appointments were heavily criticised from day one although for completely different reasons and I don't remember too many constructive posts in those threads either. I'm not ignoring Burley's record, he's done well for Ipswich they have treated him very badly, but just but looking at those two threads I just cannot see any people on here accepting him, full stop. Plus if it did not work out here with Burley in charge, then I hope we don't have to pay the same amount to pay off his contract that Ipswich are going to have to pay, nearly 2 million according to the BBC Website. |
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