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Dave 30-12-2007 01:31 PM

iphone users
 
Questions:

1: Do you love or hate the software keyboard?
2: Do you find it generally fast and responsive?
3: Is there any way to download podcasts without using a PC or MAC i.e direct to the device?


Ta

congress 30-12-2007 01:45 PM

I dont have the iphone but have the ipod touch.

To download podcasts to either of them you have to jailbreak your iphone or ipod touch .Then you can install an application which is supposed to let it do it for you.
http://www.maccast.com/2007/12/27/do...th-mobilecast/
That above might sort you out.

Other than that I have found a website for the ipod touch that has all the bbc podcasts on them. You can then using wifi download to your ipod touch.Once loaded you can disconnect from the wifi and listen to the podcast but you cannot save it.

james powell 30-12-2007 02:07 PM

Can i hi-jack this thread?

Too late :D, i want to know,

Is it worth it?

I want to buy the iPhone mainly because i need a new iPod and i was going to get the iTouch 8gb (£199), but i thought, 'im bored of my phone i want a new one'.

The iPhone (£269) has a 8gb iPod built in, i don't want to spend the same amount on the iTouch 16gb, i might as well get the Phone for the same amount of money.

BUT! Mates and family have been telling me the Phone's not worth the £269 and i should get the 16gb iTouch and get a contract phone where the handset is free and get a better pay monthly rate (e.g. Viewty etc, something with a touch screen, because, lets be honest, the £35 a month tariff on the iPhone is only for 200 mins and 200 texts.

OK! Got a bit carried away there with figures and facts, bottom line is:

Do i get the,
  • iPhone : £269 and £35 a month for 200 mins and texts.
  • iPod Touch 8gb : £199 and a touch screen contract phone
  • iPod Touch 16gb : £269 and a touch screen contract phone

Arggghhhh soooooo many choices!

Help :(

congress 30-12-2007 02:14 PM

I wouldnt bother with the 8gb touch.I have a 16gb and what with films music and photos I already have to pick and choose what I put on it.It is a nice bit of kit to use but go for the 16gb if anything.

Vodafone have a Samsung f700 going for free at the moment on 30quid a month contracts but I do know that the 02 contract on the iphone is unlimited internet on it.

Films and music videos really do look good on the touch though.

GodstoneEagle 30-12-2007 03:17 PM

jp i have the viewty and it's nothing special, wish i'd stuck with sonyericcssons, they're much better

GodstoneEagle 30-12-2007 03:18 PM

dave, if the touch keyboard is anything like the viewty, which i think it is, then it's a nightmare and should be avoided

CPFC Town 30-12-2007 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GodstoneEagle
dave, if the touch keyboard is anything like the viewty, which i think it is, then it's a nightmare and should be avoided
I assume the keyboard is like it is on the Touch. My brother has got a touch and i think its a pretty neat gadget. I set some of the setting sup such as the wifi for him and the keyboard was easy to get the hang of and use. Although im not sure if the screen size on the touch is larger then it is on the iphone cant 100% remember.

I have been deciding to buy the iphone or not and jailbreak it as i would want to use my simplicity tarrif and get the o2 web addon as it would make the tariff far more appealing.

As you "buy" the phone i dont see the need for o2 to make you to take out a contract stupid marketing malarky.

Dave 30-12-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GodstoneEagle
dave, if the touch keyboard is anything like the viewty, which i think it is, then it's a nightmare and should be avoided
Then how else can you use it? There is no other keyboard.

TBH I was looking for opinions of people who actually had an Iphone

Dave 30-12-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CPFC Town
I assume the keyboard is like it is on the Touch. My brother has got a touch and i think its a pretty neat gadget. I set some of the setting sup such as the wifi for him and the keyboard was easy to get the hang of and use. Although im not sure if the screen size on the touch is larger then it is on the iphone cant 100% remember.

I have been deciding to buy the iphone or not and jailbreak it as i would want to use my simplicity tarrif and get the o2 web addon as it would make the tariff far more appealing.

As you "buy" the phone i dont see the need for o2 to make you to take out a contract stupid marketing malarky.

The 1.03 firmware breaks the jailbreak and should be released shortly

AndyStreet 30-12-2007 03:41 PM

You not waiting for a 3G model Dave?

GodstoneEagle 30-12-2007 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
Then how else can you use it? There is no other keyboard.

TBH I was looking for opinions of people who actually had an Iphone

ok i was just trying to help as they're both touchscreen and the same size. on the viewty you can write messages in three ways; keyboard, standard key layout and handwriting. again i know you are looking for the opinion of people with iPhones but not many people have them.

Dave 16-01-2008 02:08 PM

No native support for rss sucks.

No dynamic updating of calendars suck.

Does anyone else have problems using the zoom in safari?

AndyStreet 16-01-2008 02:39 PM

What are the data speeds like on EDGE? I was hoping MWSF would herald a 3G iPhone but alas no.

st albans 16-01-2008 02:47 PM

the iphone is crap, end of

Neil the Eagle 16-01-2008 02:47 PM

I've been setting one of these up for a client. It's lump of turd, IMO.

Horrible keyboard & horribly slow. Not very inuitive or user-friendly when you need to alter settings and basically he just wants it mainly for the phone, ipod and an occasional bit of 'net. He doesn't want it to do anything particualrly clever.

swanleyeagle86 16-01-2008 02:51 PM

Ive got the blackberry pearl 8120, everything an iphone does it does, just better!

Dave 16-01-2008 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndyStreet
What are the data speeds like on EDGE? I was hoping MWSF would herald a 3G iPhone but alas no.
edge is um edge - it's fast enough for web browsing, email -

Quote:

Horrible keyboard & horribly slow. Not very inuitive or user-friendly when you need to alter settings and basically he just wants it mainly for the phone, ipod and an occasional bit of 'net. He doesn't want it to do anything particualrly clever.
Keyboard takes a bit of time to get used to - I'm 24 hours in and lovin it.

Quote:

Ive got the blackberry pearl 8120, everything an iphone does it does, just better!
I have a blackberry 8800 too - what is your point?

Quote:

the iphone is crap, end of
Do you have one?

congress 16-01-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
I've been setting one of these up for a client. It's lump of turd, IMO.

Horrible keyboard & horribly slow. Not very inuitive or user-friendly when you need to alter settings and basically he just wants it mainly for the phone, ipod and an occasional bit of 'net. He doesn't want it to do anything particualrly clever.

If they need someone to set up their ipod touch they shouldnt own one in my opinion.I am very impressed with mine and just downloaded the new maps software already installed on the iphone.
The good thing is that you can set up the route at home and even without internet access while on the move as long as you stick to the same route it will get you there as it saves journeys into the memory.

swanleyeagle86 16-01-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
edge is um edge - it's fast enough for web browsing, email -



Keyboard takes a bit of time to get used to - I'm 24 hours in and lovin it.



I have a blackberry 8800 too - what is your point?



Do you have one?

My point is stated in my post. "I have the blackbery pearl 8120, it does everything the iphone does, just better."

Dave 16-01-2008 10:16 PM

Web browsing on blackerry is beyond shit and there aren't many 8Gb Blackberrys

swanleyeagle86 16-01-2008 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
Web browsing on blackerry is beyond shit and there aren't many 8Gb Blackberrys
Not had any problem browsing the net on the bberry. as for the 8gb, i have a 2gb card in mine, and thats more then enough for what i use it for.

Dave 16-01-2008 11:03 PM

Try viewing the BBS on a blackberry - horrid. I actually enjoy the bbs on a mobile device for the first time ever - stretching the screen is so cool.

AndyStreet 16-01-2008 11:06 PM

Sorry for all the questions Dave, but is yours on O2 or have you jailbroken it to work on another network?

Dave 16-01-2008 11:15 PM

I'm on 02 - I won't be jailbreaking mine

Niceaction 16-01-2008 11:18 PM

The keyboard takes getting used to, but is neat once you've used it for a bit. The only problem with it is not being able to type whilst not looking at the phone. On normal mobiles, you can feel your way around the buttons and just glance down every so often to make sure what you are typing looks ok, you can't do that on the iphone.

swanleyeagle86 16-01-2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
Try viewing the BBS on a blackberry - horrid. I actually enjoy the bbs on a mobile device for the first time ever - stretching the screen is so cool.
I give you that, but then pretty much all websites not designed to be viewed on a mobile look crap.

Dave 16-01-2008 11:29 PM

Not on an Iphone, which is my point

swanleyeagle86 16-01-2008 11:38 PM

So in total you will have paid roughly a grand+, to browse the internet nicely?

Dave 17-01-2008 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swanleyeagle86
So in total you will have paid roughly a grand+, to browse the internet nicely?
and an 8gb ipod and email on the go and a camera.

Seems fair to me

paf 17-01-2008 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
Try viewing the BBS on a blackberry - horrid. I actually enjoy the bbs on a mobile device for the first time ever - stretching the screen is so cool.
I had a go on my mates Ipod touch thingy, connected to my wireless network and I browsed the net, it was also the first time that a mobile device actually allowed me to browse with ease and that I would want to use again.

Shame the rest of it was so shit.


:(

Dave 17-01-2008 09:11 AM

I'm loving the email client and can do two finger typing - its a smashing piece of kit

UEAgle 17-01-2008 12:17 PM

When can we expect the next gen iPhone? I think I may hold out for that...

Dave 17-01-2008 12:27 PM

What sepcidically do you want in the next gen? More disk space? 3G? GPS?

I just want them to keep developing the software - so much potential there.

I even like the youtube application

Micky Droy 17-01-2008 12:51 PM

I installed the new update - 1.1.3 - this morning. It has destroyed my iPhone. It will not upgrade, and wants me to restore it to factory settings, which it then won't let me do. Am trawling through maccy forums to see how to fix it. This is a new unhacked iPhone and I am disgruntled. Lots of people are having this problem, it seems.

First problem I've had with it though and until now have been loving it. The minority report pinchy stretchy thing is both aces and cool.

Dave 17-01-2008 12:57 PM

:(

1.1.3 works fine for me

Micky Droy 17-01-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
:(

1.1.3 works fine for me

It's afflicting a minority of people, and causes seem to be anything from a glitch in iPhoto to using an old iPod lead.

Various solutions include total reinstalls of iTunes, restoring the phone on another computer, and basically a whole lot of hassle.

Not good.

Are you enjoying the map enhancements?

Dave 17-01-2008 01:36 PM

I don't use the maps - I have a phone with real GPS too :)

anoneagle 09-02-2008 08:57 PM

lookin to get one of these in a months time but could do with some advice....
does an unlocked iphones features still work as a legit one would?(youtube,maps,itunes updates etc.)

will a new updated version of the iphone be released within 18 months? (encase i sign to O2)

and what sort of battery life do you get out of yours?

Dave 10-02-2008 04:28 PM

Batter life is pretty good although I charge most nights

No clue about the other questions

anoneagle 10-02-2008 05:34 PM

cheers dave,although i think i'll just go for an o2 contract now.
been reading a bit about the unlocked ones and i think they pick up faults after updates etc.
only thing that worries me about o2 is the tariff and signal strength.

Dave 10-02-2008 05:37 PM

The tariff has just been doubled.

Signal strength is much improved these days.

FWIW I haven't even considered unlocking my phone

Micky Droy 10-02-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anoneagle
lookin to get one of these in a months time but could do with some advice....
does an unlocked iphones features still work as a legit one would?(youtube,maps,itunes updates etc.)

will a new updated version of the iphone be released within 18 months? (encase i sign to O2)

and what sort of battery life do you get out of yours?

If you unlock it you get the current features but you need a new hacked version after every update. So you are ever reliant on hacks, and those hacks might in future not have exactly the same apps.

They are opening it up to third party developers so they can design more applications, and Apple will then approve some of them.

Battery life is fine but if you are online a lot it drains much faster.

They just announced a 16 gig version.

The nice thing is that when they put out an update, you get any new features it has. So your phone will keep improving.

As Dave says, they just made the contract twice as generous, and you have unlimited data online so don;t have to worry.

anoneagle 11-02-2008 03:22 PM

Thanks for your help dave and micky.
I think i'll play it safe (and simple) by choosing the o2 option.
looks like an excellent phone,and i need to get a new ipod with more memory anyway. only using a 2gb ipod,so having to delete files everytime i download music. perfect combo for what i'm after at the moment! Hopefully i wont be disappointed.....

Dave 11-02-2008 03:54 PM

I guarantee you won't

AndyStreet 11-02-2008 04:27 PM

Rumours of an imminent price drop and perhaps a move to 3G on www.macrumors.com

cumbrian_eagles 11-02-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndyStreet
Rumours of an imminent price drop and perhaps a move to 3G on www.macrumors.com
It isn't a rumour about moving to 3G the AT&T chief said Apple were working on it, and infact I think Apple have even been quoted as saying they didn't include 3G first time round due to the size of the chip and its power requirements.

Dave 11-02-2008 05:04 PM

3G wouldn't incentivise me to upgrade if was to cost and it certainly wouldn't stop me buying an Iphone now.

GPRS is fast enough for email and web browsing so unless they are going to offer IM or streaming then I can't leave it.

edit: In fact IM wouldn't need 3G

congress 12-02-2008 07:55 AM

Something for your iphone.Britannica encyclopaedia

http://i.eb.com/

Pidster 24-02-2008 10:23 AM

Beware my globetrotting chums.

Marki 08-03-2008 05:54 PM

Just got the 16gb version and managed to unlock it in about 5 mins using some free software.

Very impressed!

fnord 08-03-2008 07:11 PM

the keyboard on my touch is a beauty, it's easily the most acccurate touch device I've ever used. I was doign a fair bit of typing on it today and didn;t have any problems

hong_kong_hg 08-03-2008 07:38 PM

Beauty. Best phone on the market.

El Aguila 08-03-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pidster
Beware my globetrotting chums.
Phones that automatically look for emails to download are bloody stupid. I had a Windows Palm that did that..... I ditched it.

anoneagle 08-03-2008 08:10 PM

I got a 16GB iphone on tuesday,and am really pleased with it.
Only problem so far is connecting to the internet. Maybe i've missed something,but havent found anywhere to connect through wi-fi yet. So,so far i havent made full use of the phone (youtube,itunes etc.) but still really impressed!

Marki 08-03-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anoneagle
I got a 16GB iphone on tuesday,and am really pleased with it.
Only problem so far is connecting to the internet. Maybe i've missed something,but havent found anywhere to connect through wi-fi yet. So,so far i havent made full use of the phone (youtube,itunes etc.) but still really impressed!

Mine connected with our home system straight away. So simple that it took a while for me to realise that it wasn't connected to the web under its own steam.:lux:

anoneagle 08-03-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marki
Mine connected with our home system straight away. So simple that it took a while for me to realise that it wasn't connected to the web under its own steam.:lux:

the problem is my home system is locked,and im not sure what password i'm meant to enter. i've tried entering the wep key,but no joy!

can anyone spread some light? as soon as i suss that out,the phone becomes so much more appealing and usefull!

Hedgehog 09-03-2008 01:27 AM

I hear the latest upgrade to the iPhone will allow the keyboard to be horizontal as well as vertical, which should make typing easier.

Also they will be more business orientated, i.e. you can use Word and Excel.

Disclaimer.... I don't have one, was just talking with a guy at work yesterday about his. I have to say I was impressed with what he was showing me.... but then again I'm a bit of a Luddite when it comes to this stuff.... my cell phone is 6 years old and doesn't even have a camera in it.

Brett 09-03-2008 04:03 PM

The June revision rumours seem pretty strong.

Do people here think that we'll be seeing an update then?

anoneagle 09-03-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brett
The June revision rumours seem pretty strong.

Do people here think that we'll be seeing an update then?


i hope not,not yet anyway..... only got mine last week so i'll be a bit gutted.

Adlerhorst 09-03-2008 04:13 PM

16GB nearly convinced me but I might as well wait until June.

Dave 09-03-2008 04:36 PM

That means four months at the very least with some rubbish phone.

Get one now

Hedgehog 09-03-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anoneagle
i hope not,not yet anyway..... only got mine last week so i'll be a bit gutted.
Surely all the software updates get downloaded through iTunes for free?

Adlerhorst 09-03-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
That means four months at the very least with some rubbish phone.

Get one now

Tempting though it is my blackberry will suffice as a phone until then - feck knows where my actual phone is.

Dave 09-03-2008 04:43 PM

I have a blackberry too and it's Ok for making calls and email as well as having GPS but an Iphone it ain't.

Adlerhorst 09-03-2008 04:47 PM

Agreed entirely - my ipod is six years old as well. :(

anoneagle 09-03-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anoneagle
the problem is my home system is locked,and im not sure what password i'm meant to enter. i've tried entering the wep key,but no joy!

can anyone spread some light? as soon as i suss that out,the phone becomes so much more appealing and usefull!


Can anyone help with this? Its really annoyin me now,as the wep key is all i can think of that i'm supposed to enter. Or is there any simple way of just unlocking my livebox instead?

knowlesyUCLA 09-03-2008 04:52 PM

what about iPod touchs? I am getting an 8gb one from the states for £125, i sold my 30Gb video one on ebay for £70 because basically i will never use that space for music i actually want. i have a huge external harddrive and will basically chop and change a certain amount of songs, whilst keeping some must haves on there. im not really bothered about video, having had a video ipod for two years and only ever really watched a few episodes of lost on it.

the ipod touch just looks awesome, cant wait to get my hands on it. how does the wireless net work anyways? i mean, does it work well for browsing/sending emails?

CPFC Town 09-03-2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by knowlesyUCLA
the ipod touch just looks awesome, cant wait to get my hands on it. how does the wireless net work anyways? i mean, does it work well for browsing/sending emails?
My brother has the touch and it is a great device. Until your in a non-wireless area. I used it for a day and at the end of the day came to the conclusion if i had one i'd get the phone version as it means you can use all the features on it when you want as most require internet access.

For using the touch as a MP3 and video player it is quality. If you want to have it to check your email, browse a few webpages on the move then i would seriously consider getting the phone version instead imho.

Is a very slick device i would consider getting if the contract plans where more competative with day to day pay monthly price plans :)

Dave 09-03-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anoneagle
Can anyone help with this? Its really annoyin me now,as the wep key is all i can think of that i'm supposed to enter.

WPA not WEP is the way to go but

http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archiv...ep_networ.html

Justy C 10-03-2008 11:32 AM

OK, having said I would wait for the next generation of these to come out I am now sorely tempted to get one as my shite Nokia N95 has completely packed up for the second time in 11 months.

18 month contract. I'm not going to regret it am I?

Dave 10-03-2008 11:57 AM

Nope

Micky Droy 10-03-2008 12:48 PM

It will change ur life.

Oddjob 10-03-2008 12:51 PM

Only if your life wasnt that great to begin with.

Justy C 12-03-2008 08:13 AM

Have had an iPhone for a day now - it is awesome.

Only slight niggle is the signal strength at home, it isn't as strong as my previous O2 phone and only picks up in the lounge. Hey ho, its definitely worth it though, just need to discover everything on it now!

Dave 12-03-2008 09:02 AM

Just call 02, I think they are swapping out some units with lower strength signal

Teemo 12-03-2008 09:35 AM

Can you play AVI files on the iphone?

knowlesyUCLA 12-03-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teemo
Can you play AVI files on the iphone?
i doubt it. i had an ipod video and you needed to convert it from avi to mp4 before it would run on that, i would have thought its the same in the iphone.

arussell 13-03-2008 12:19 AM

Correct.

Dave 13-03-2008 08:21 AM

iplayer for iPhone released

paf 13-03-2008 09:29 AM

I wish I'd got one, the N95 8GB is a load of shit and now I'm stuck with it. Or am I? Can you buy yorself out of the contract? I also have an N80 in good nick, so the pair would realise a tidy sum on Ebay I guess.

anyone know?

Dave 13-03-2008 09:36 AM

Who is the contract with?

paf 13-03-2008 09:42 AM

Three.

:(

Dave 13-03-2008 09:52 AM

Fook :(

No option other than paying up the whole contract then :(

PalaceMonkey 13-03-2008 10:05 AM

I think I'd probably break/lose it if I had one.

Dave 13-03-2008 10:18 AM

Home insurance

PalaceMonkey 13-03-2008 10:22 AM

oh, and I don't want one.

kitticat 13-03-2008 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PalaceMonkey
oh, and I don't want one.
They are very fiddly, My sister and her better half have them, She asked me to make a phone call and I just stared at it, as I had no idea. Though I don't think you will lose on Mr Monkey they're huge!!!!

Dave 13-03-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PalaceMonkey
oh, and I don't want one.
meh

PalaceMonkey 13-03-2008 11:14 AM

it's too big & expensive.

my phone & mp3 player combined are smaller and with better battery life.

That's all I need.

Dave 13-03-2008 11:16 AM

Why are you posting inane chatter on this thread then? :)

PalaceMonkey 13-03-2008 11:21 AM

it's what I do.

Anyways, I came on here to see if I could be persuaded, but nothing you've said has.

Charging it every night? Madness!

Dave 13-03-2008 11:23 AM

Quote:

Anyways, I came on here to see if I could be persuaded, but nothing you've said has.
I don't do advocacy.

Anyways, I don't think you really fit the Iphone demographic :)

PalaceMonkey 13-03-2008 11:26 AM

:(

actually I do.

I am male, early 30s, uni educated and on above average income.

And that who apple are aiming at.

so there.


and I'm an early adopter of new technology, just not in phones.

Dave 13-03-2008 11:30 AM

He shoots.

He scores.

PalaceMonkey 13-03-2008 11:31 AM

gah :grrr:


at least I managed to resist your music snob bait the other week.

Spanish Dan 13-03-2008 11:33 AM

I love my iPhone more than I love my wife. Although, I'm pretty sure she also loves it more than she loves me.

Justy C 13-03-2008 11:34 AM

PM - having said I wouldn't get one I decided to take the plunge on Monday this week having had to put up with the Nokia N95 for the last 11 months - a shockingly bad phone.

Yes its expensive and I'm sure the novelty will wear off but the iPhone is an amazing piece of kit. I can't believe how good it is. I'm not regretting buying one at all so far and I'd be surprised if anyone was disappointed having purchased one. *

* with my luck at the moment expect the touch screen to totally give up or apple to release the most amazing upgraded phone any day now.

Spanish Dan 13-03-2008 11:36 AM

Seconded. It's the best gadget I've ever owned, bar none.

Dave 13-03-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PalaceMonkey
gah :grrr:


at least I managed to resist your music snob bait the other week.

What did I say?

Don't remember that

Dave 13-03-2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Justy C
PM - having said I wouldn't get one I decided to take the plunge on Monday this week having had to put up with the Nokia N95 for the last 11 months - a shockingly bad phone.

Yes its expensive and I'm sure the novelty will wear off but the iPhone is an amazing piece of kit. I can't believe how good it is. I'm not regretting buying one at all so far and I'd be surprised if anyone was disappointed having purchased one. *

* with my luck at the moment expect the touch screen to totally give up or apple to release the most amazing upgraded phone any day now.

The thing that worries me a little now is that Iplayer is available - so if they release 3g version the possibilities are amazing.


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