so can I download / stream, whatever the term is something on iplayer when I'm in a wifi zone and then watch it when I'm not pls? That is on the Itouch.

Not unless you jailbreak

is jailbreaking reversible? I.e. if it all goes wrong can you restore factory defaults and thus still use the guarantee?

Short answer is yes, longer answer available if you want it.

yes pls to longer answer.

So when you jailbreak there is a small chance you could lock yopurself out of the phone or 'brick it' - so bear that in mind. Seems to be very rare though.

The other issue is that if you go > standard firmware --> jailbreak --> standard then I *believe* you may lose your settings and have to add them again.

cool. I'm gonna get me a mic attachment for Skype & then jailbreak I think

Personally I think you would have more love for the Skype phone than this

well I've got a blackberry & a touch. What I want is to be able to make Skype calls occasionally without carrying a 3rd device around. It isn't really a money thing, it's a functional practical thing.

You mean like unlocking a vodafone mobile phone to install apps on it that vodafone doesn't approve of?

Vodafone don't make phones

No but they lock them down to restrict the software you install on them

If vodpaphone locked down the phone and the phones were unix based then yes it would be called jailbreaking.

im up for upgrade nxt week

was gonna get my first iphone as i use itunes and fancy free internet usage with the £45 deal at o2

is it the best phone? that samsung omina is it? looks good
any review sites online? what other phones might be worth a whirl?

cheers

i like mms, not many people retrieve emails on their mobiles yet

http://www.mobile-phones-uk.org.uk/

this looks a good review site-they like the samsung

Not sure that is correct.

sorry i meant not many people i know

god the choices on mobiles does my head in

so many mixed reviews

I'm Due upgrade on O2 in couple of weeks wait for the Nokia N96 to come out looks superb and built in 16gb of memory and 5 Million mega pixel camera as standard

http://www.nokia-n96-mobile.co.uk/img/nokia%20n96.jpg

that samsung one looks good

Symbian, dead technology

in the samsung or nokia?

Nokia runs symbian.

The Samsung runs Windows mobile, from the people who brought you Vista, Internet explorer etc.

indeed.
that review says the samsung is a bit buggy, but still better than the iPhone.

5 mpix. Just a gimmick. Unless you are a professional photographer, generating large format print ads, you do not need anything above 3.5 - 4.

Dave will you show me the power of your vibrate tomorrow ? :D

2.1 is out gang

What's on your second menu screen?

I cant sleep

How did you get that link to bbc on there? That is cool!

Go to a website in Safari. Click the little "+" button. Click Add to Home Screen.

It's as eddie says above. You my need to chop down the title that is displayed.

I tried doing one for the BBS but the icon is just the main page and looks a bit guff.

I'd like to see an option that auto sorts the icons based on popularity, I'm also at three panes now but its only going to majorly increase as more apps come out.

How did you do the screenshot?

Also, is the Koi thing good? Would you buy it again?

Off button and Home button together for a second and release.

The screen will go white for a second and you'll hear the camera shutter.

I think I would buy it again, even if it went up to 99p.

It's a good app to show off the multi-touch and accelerometer. I've found that some people think that multi-touch is the same as what is in their k850i and others haven't a clue what an accelerometer is!

The inclusion of 'shake to feed' to the Koi Pond app was a lovely addition and has people saying "wow" when I show it to them.

Cool, thanks for both replies Brett.

Dave let me touch his vibrate

Cool, downloaded in 2 mins as well, worth waiting a couple of days.

New App (for me) : Airsharing

Free for a couple of weeks, grab it while you can. The best free app so far.

so I wonder if dave could somehow add a pretty little icon ;-)

i get my free upgrade 2moro
£45 a month 1200mins 500 txt unlimited internet
seems ok
do i go for the 16gb free
or pay £59 for 32?
(or is it 8 vs 16 cant remember!)

16 is the biggest

thanks dave, i assume u recommend the iphone?

My Iphone's calendar has gone mental :( shows only one event not the 400 it should have :(

Don't know how to resync it with exchange :(

Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calenders > Choose exchange account > Untick and retick calender

That could possibly work?

been there - no luck. Some suggestions that it's wierd characters in outlook event titles :(

I had a weird problem where every day would have a dot in but there wasn't any activity in those days!
Might just have to export them and then import?

Still fighting

http://www.fu-1.net/iphone/IMG_0006.PNG

Slightly off topic but The Real Thing is a fab album :p

Had an Iphone for a few weeks now, a few issues (another one I posted on the Itunes thread but no one has been able to give any hints yet)

1) I use my calender and contacts at work so need to sync there however my music is on my itunes at home. Got both set to manage music manually but as soon as I plug into Itunes at work it says that I've been authorised with another itunes and it erases all my music. I've googled but cannot find a solution. How does anybody else deal with situations like this ?

2) I can't get music streaming to my bluetooth headphones the phone works via bluetooth but no music.

Apologies if these have already been answered earlier in the thread but couldn't obviously find it.

2) Iphone doesn't support A2DP yet, so if you are pairing with the phone itself then it won't work.

axie

there is a way for number 1 i did it my self let me just have a look and ill let you know how

On the first point you can only manually manage your tunes from one PC unfortunately. I have my calendar and contacts from my work laptop, which is set to not sync any music, and then just manually manage my music from my home desktop. It works pretty well for me, so on your work computer just set it to not sync any music.

I can't help on the second one unfortunately.

when the message pops up about erasing press cancell then

on the iphone device page at the buttom underneath the picture of the iphone should be a options section

uncheck the one that says "Automatically sync when this iphone is connected"


then click on the info tab at the top next to summary then select what you want to sync then press apply ( all done ) thats how i do mine

Thanks chaps for 1) I have exactly Andys' settings on my work computer just that at home I've got manually manage set (as there's more than 16gig to sync) when I sync at work I get the erase or cancel message. Shall try cpfc121's method tomorrow.

2) Hmm no A2DP yet, I naively assumed it would have it. Why would Apple not implement it ?

I believe that the bluetooth stack isn't up to it yet, I'd be fairly confident they will implement it at some stage.

It's going to kill battery life.

I got my IPhone yesterday - signed an 18 month contract and paid £59 extra for the 16gb model.

It's great fun - but boy am I frustrated trying to get movies onto it. I would have thought that a modern, top of the range, media device like this would be able to cope with a DivX encoded file without any problem .... but no. I am having to convert all my movie files to IPod compatible MP4 format before ITunes will let me load them into the device.

It's also frustrating not to have a simple 'drag and drop' facility. Why does every file have to go via the ITunes setup?

If you got it through your existing mobile company, you should have said you would leave if you never got it for free and you would have saved £59.

Is a commercial decision, if it supported Xvid then less people would buy from the Itunes store.

Here is a nice tip though, downloading from BBC Iplayer gives you nice high quality Quicktime files that your Iphone will love. Don't ask me how to download on a windows machine, I only know the Linux and Mac way.

Also, on my mac I can drag and drop films into itunes, not sure if this is possible in windows...

i phoned them up for the same deal and they offered me
£20 a month 1200 minutes 1000 txt unlimited web browsing
no contract

all if i kept my current phone which im quite happy with

times are tight so im gonna go with this til the urge to upgrade gets to much

Have seen the light and getting 16GB Iphone with my upgrade at start of October hopefully will try and haggle the phone free from them and is it also worh getting insurance for the phone ? or am i covered under apples warranty ?

When I tried the old haggle they stated that apple would not allow them to change the price of phone or contract. Try by all means but maybe go for free accessories?

Get airsharing as i said earlier then you can drag and drop

yeh will try that and maybe get free insurance or a added bolt on

This seems to work - pressing cancel when the erase dialog box comes up and then sync although it does automatically uncheck the manual manage music checkbox so I just assume I'll have to be careful. Thanks for help.

What format do downloads from Iplayer come in from Linux/Mac ? windows are wmv format when I try and convert to mp4 they just crash.

file "Panorama - Terror in the Skies.mov"
Panorama - Terror in the Skies.mov: ISO Media, Apple QuickTime movie

OK - I have had my IPhone for a few days now, and broadly I am happy with it, but there are a few niggles.

First, as I mentioned earlier, many common movie files (including DivX) are not recognised.

Secondly, there is no way of using the BBC 'Listen Again' service. There is a beta version of the BBC IPlayer, but that only works with a WiFi connection.

Third, many applications seem to crash. I recognise that this is probably the fault of the application authors, rather than the machine itself, but nevertheless it's frustrating.

Fourth, at times the IPhone seems sluggish, taking time to respond to a command (key press etc).

Fifth, no easy access to the drive (i.e. drag and drop). I installed the airsharing application - but I couldn't get this to work on Vista. Curiously, typing the IP address into my browser connected and showed a couple of folders on the IPhone - but no way to access them.

James, on the mac I connect to the iPhone through the windows equivalent of explored, is you map the ip address as a drive not browse it through a browser. On the iPhone you can then just touch the folder to see what's inside it, works really well. You just drag and drop to the drive on the mac through browser and then point at the file on the iPhone. Any format the mac supports can then be used. So QuickTime files office and PDFs are all easily accessed.

app stability and the sluggishness you describe were much improved for me since the 2.1 upgrade, have you downloaded it yet. Apologies for the incorrect words on the post above the autocorrect ok typing from the phone gets me occaisionally

James, the airshare programme does work on vista. to get into the folders on your computer i had to right click on them in the panel on the left side of the screen and explore them

OK - I have cracked it. It's a known problem with Vista, but easily solved by installing THIS file sharing update from Microsoft. Yes - it was the first thing I did when I got home!

I wonder if one of you can help me?

So far, I have been using my IPhone touch using WiFi (because there is no 3g signal here in Ewhurst). However, I was in Woking last night, where there was a strong 3g signal - but using Safari was awful. I managed to get a single page loaded in about 5 minutes - and after that I was getting server not responding errors. I tried several WebSites (including the BBC, the BBS, Wikipedia and Amazon).

I checked that I was connected using 3g (I was) and tried switching off and on again a few times.

Am I missing something obvious?

Not very helpful but sometimes 3G may appear to have a strong signal when the reality is that it's very weak. This is compounded by 02s network.

In these scenarios it can be easier to switch to edge.

Oh and James - on demand on the Iphone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...adio_show.html

Fantastic! It works very well.

... but what about live streaming? Is that available? Is that a case of switching from O2-3g to just o2? I tried that and the speed was the same (i.e. non existent).

I believe there are third party apps that will allow you to stream live, these have the restriction of having to be be active in memory, so when using them you can't use anything else
Yopu can disable 3G in settings --> general --> network

I am SO tempted to Jailbreak my 3g - and have downloaded all the necessary files and guides ... but I am nervous. Has anyone here done this to a new 3g IPhone who could perhaps give me some confidence (or, conversely, persuade me not to do it)?

The Iphone is one of the most frustrating gadgets I have ever owned - so much potential constrained by hardware restrictions.

It's really unlikely to be bricked, the risk is that your data gets lost

Surely not if I back it all up first?

The risk is you can't restore from backup

Hmmm ...

I was going to do it tonight. I'm going to leave it until the morning.

Hi guys, dont know if you have heard or seen this cant trail through the whole thread but i thought i might let you know about this, my mate has invented this idea waiting for the patent to come through at the moment. Let me know what you think.:p

http://www.iredhanded.com/

Facebook page if anyones interested. http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=32203658320

My thoughts exactly...

Actually - I didn't mean hardware restrictions!

I meant Firmware restrictions. The hardware itself has it all - but it is hamstrung by a very restrictive Operating System.

Still, you knew what I meant, didn't you?

Does nobody research products before buying them anymore?

You couldn't launch a class action suit again the manufacturer if that happened.

Yep.....I think the iPhone is 95% spot on....the other 5% though just makes me want to scream.

I am intrigued by this James, you listed 5 problem areas on the last page, all but the first one are resolved I believe with subsequent firmware and application upgrades although there were some problems down to the choice of OS you use on your PC. What does it not do for you?

Divx support is always patchy anyway, it requires licensing to use corporately which is why so many avoid it. MKV I'd prefer personally but I think you'll need to get the Ugly phone to get 3rd party open source support for that.

The iPhone whilst not perfect beats the WM6 platform hands down from my experience. It will however be interesting to see what happens when they bring a decent G-Phone out.

I'd like LEAP, if I had that I could use it at work.

XDVID is open source

Then jailbreak it

I'm scared ..... !!

Doing it now ....

Good luck and do give us your views on how easy the process is and what its like afterwards (ie. what you can now run etc.)

I used a load of Cooked Roms on my Tytn and they broke the radio :(

Luckily I restored it back to factory settings and T-Mobile swapped it for a new one under warranty :lux:

Hmmm vlc4iphone looks good. Anyone have a good 3rd party app list?

I am tempted now to also go down this path.

Anyone else Jailbroken their 3G yet?

Have you killed it James?