i have no name and extenstion session that there going on about

its cool everyone stop panicking i have done it.

You'll all be happy to know, esp David that my iphone has managed to heal itself.
Don't ask me how, but it truely is a Jesus phone.

BOOYYAAAHHH

Would it be fair to say that the iPhone is the best mobile browsing experience out there?

Also, anyone got any feelings as to whether I should go for it right now or in a couple of months time?

Web browsing is pretty much it's forte but it isn't perfect, you can't do file uploads, there is no flash etc. It's still the best I have seen.

Why would you wait?

One of the best but I am unsure about it being the best.

No flash support is a right pain. Loads of sites use this and my Iphone just gives an annoying box. My mates windows mobile based works fine. His is better for seeing the content on sites. The Iphone is the master of navigation with the stroke to scroll and the pinch to expand. Lovely. But no good if you cant see the info in the 1st place.
Bluetooth support is awful. I have no idea why but you can't bluetooth pictures. I want to share with people when I meet up. Cant do it.
I also want to MMS. Cant email as others phones dont have email support. Can't do it.
I want to take video clips. Can't do it.
I want to take pictures with a flash. It hasnt got one. That said its low light is pretty good but loads of occasions are missed out with not haveing a flass.
I was lucky in that I was given a V1 (boss upgraded to 3G and gave me his old one) I am using mine as an ipod touch and have kept my Nokia.
If they can resolve some of these complaints, which i'm sure they will, I would then give it the phone of the universe award, until then I will stick with my Nokia.

I'd rather have no phone than ever use symbian again

I still use my old phone as an alarm clock, because i usally chuck it across the room, but it's nothing compared to an iphone. Just to look at my old phone makes me sick.

Oh and you have to use apple headphones as the other standard jacks are just too wide to fit in the socket.

Lies.

in the neww iphone 3g u can use any type of headphone, as i use seinnhieser headphones

LOL no its not. I have Sony and Sennheiser in ear types and Technics Full size and none of them fit. The jack is the right size but dont reach as the socket is in a resess so the plastic that surrounds the jack needs to be really narrow so the jack can reach. There may be some out there that can but 100% of mine dont.

oh, well mine do, i have seinheiser ones and they work perfectly

These are all very good points.

The IPhone is absolutely brilliant, but it could be so, so much better.

The frustrating thing is that many of the problems you have identified could be sorted out with a firmware upgrade. The hardware is quite capable of delivering all these things.

I am amazed that Adobe Flash isn't supported (since its use is ubiquitous now on the WWW) - and why can't we record video clips with the camera? Even the most basic camera phone allows this.

Guess I am unlucky. :sob: My Sennheisers are L shaped for some reason and maybe the Sony's and Full Size Technics are just fat

Does my headphone point count as well ;)


I agree with you BTW, brilliant phone but could be even more so

lol i reckon u are, i also use the in ear apple ones which work great

I have never used the Apple Headphones. I use a couple of cheapo headphones when I am at the Gym - and I have used some 'L shaped' ones as well!

Is yours a 3g IPhone? The jack socket on my phone seems to be quite standard - I can't see why any mini-jack wouldn't fit in it.

aye i have a 3g iphone and they work perfectly fine, the jck fit snugg into my socket

You might want to think before passing off ill informed opinion as fact

Harsh Dave :( The BBS is about opinion.

Also as IoW has the 1st Gen the earphone socket was recessed I believe which probably accounts for his problem. This was rectified on the 3G Andy, all headphones fit.

Even in 1st gen it's a standard 3.5mm headphone jack, recessed connection or not

Yes but it was notorious for being a bugger to get headphones to fit. I believe there used to be adapter kits and the like to solve the problem unless you had a svelte headphone jack you were screwed.

i make ridcully right on this one. i have a special adapter as it's recessed back into t'iPhone

Yes - apologies are in order. It seems that he was right in relation to the old Iphone ...

It's a standard headphone socket, there are plenty of heaphones out there that will fit a 2G iphone.

Yes, but clearly many didn't fit it - and that problem has been sorted out in the 3g version.

It was a daft thing for Apple to do in the original design, which fortunately they seem to have fixed.

IOW posted:

This simply isn't true. Argue amongst yourselves about anything else.

Apple seem to like announcing things in the first week of the year, and there are rumours of a 32gb version.

I believe all you have to do is cut of the rubber part above the plug on the headphones, and it wil slip right in

I haven't read that.

No It is a fact. Not ill informed opinion, Three sets of headphones dont fit Fact. Other have also mentioned that due to the recess on older Iphones it doesnt fit. Fact. As was said kits were even produced to get round the problem. Fact. Been rectified on the 3G Fact. You on the other had obviosuly dont know what you are talking about and you might want to think before passing off ill informed opinion as fact

Meh

I have:

http://www.macblogz.com/2008/11/03/3...macworld-2009/

Having said that, I'm trying to find out whether Toshiba are even making the chips needed for a 32GB iPhone, and it doesn't look like they are as yet.

Just to settle the argument - my neighbour has a 2g IPhone - and he told me that he had tried FIVE different sets of ear/head phones - and NONE of them fitted. The mini-jack is, for some odd reason, recessed which means that any 'L' shaped plug and many straight ones with a large base simply will not fit. A couple of the earphones he showed me would go most of the way in - but that meant you only got one channel of audio.

What a stupid thing for Apple to have done. Still, at least they didn't repeat the mistake on the new 3g model.

Yeah, just ignore my photos

robot chicken on Joost, it's what the Iphone was made for

I've just ordered mine :D

Enjoy :)

What a ridiculous over-reaction. I make IoW right on this, I can't fit my regular headphones into my iphone either as the socket is recessed too far. Just google any combination of "iphone", "headphones" and "don't fit" and you'll find that loads of people complained about it.

Again, just ignore the photos of my 2g iphone with non apple headphones

Its bothering you now isn't it :D

But the point is that you can't use any set of 3.5 mm headphones that you want, you still have to make sure that they fit which discounts almost all L-shaped jacks for a start

I fully accept that many headphones won't fit however it is a standard 3.5 mm jack and some headphones (see my previous pictures) will fit.

Saying that you need an adapter with the 2G did bother me from the start.

Dave in denial shocker. Again.

The simple truth is that many people DO need an adapter to use non-apple headphones for the 2g IPhone. That's why people buy products like THIS which allow "the headphones you already own to fit within the smaller headphone jack of your [2g] iPhone. "

What's the problem? The original design was ridiculous. Apple obviously recognised this (even if Dave didn't) and changed it for the 3g model.

Yes, I have seen the pictures. I have also played with a 2g model, and have seen the problem for myself. I can assure you that many ordinary earphones will NOT FIT without an adapter.

This is exactly what I posted you donut.

So what exactly have we been arguing about then?

clear?

Nope those that fit are obviously not standard. :)

Good grief.

:D

Am I the only IPhone user who has had to 'restore' his touch on average one a month?

For the third time since I bought it, my data seems to have become corrupted, and I was invited to restore the IPhone - taking almost an hour to get everything back on it, and up and running.

Is this common?

touch wood i've never had any problems with mine apart from having to reboot about 4 times

DHL = Fail.

Didn't deliver this morning. I'm not going to be able to receive my new iPhone at home for a while, so I'm cancelling the whole thing and I'll retry in the new year.

Can't you just go to an 02 store?

I can update to 3G in january. I'm assuming it's worthwhile.

3g upgrade is meh

2g is physically a better device

Except for the mini-jack problem. :)

so should I? pros/cons

Also - I don't think there is a speaker in the 2g model (and no external volume adjustment). I wouldn't be happy with that.

There is in both points

+ points

* gps
* 3g (when it works)
* 16gb disk

- points

* shit battery
* worse build

i already have a 16gig. so i wouldn't be improving on my current effort?

I didn't know there was a 16 gb 2g.

Just heard there may well be a 32gb 3g announced in Jan, so maybe hold off

There is, I've got one ................................fact ;)

heard this as well and apparently the Phone will be smaller in size as well

I didn't hear that

There are two rumours for January:

1. There will be a 32GB model.
2. There will be an iPhone nano/mini

The first one is a case of when, not if, it will happen. Toshiba have only recently started making the 32GB chips required to do this, and no one else is able to do the same, so January may be a bit early. Also expect the 32GB version to be quite a bit more expensive than the existing models.

I'm not convinced there will be a new form factor

I'm not convinced they will announce anything in January - I think that Apple will now continue down the route of announcing everything online as soon as they have it ready to ship.

I do think there will be a new form factor, don't know if it'll be now though.

can you download a application that lets you forward on messages i can't remember if i have asked this or not

iSMS

Very odd i cant find it

They don't often announce things online first.
They usually announce at a press conferance, and its online minutes later

so should I hold off do we think?

guys i am thinking about picking up a 3g 8gb from my sisters boyfriend, who for some reason now has two. i am currently on O2 PAYG and if i did get an iPhone would obviously need some sort of inclusive data package.

I am therefore researching the O2 simplicity £20 tariff which includes 1000 texts / 600 mins & Unlimited Web Bolt On. The phone is used so I wouldnt have thought I need to register it via iTunes as such.

My question is whether if I did get that tariff, would the unlimited data work for 3G as well as GPRS? A friend has a 2G with the same setup and it works fine, but I am thinking it might be different with 3G.

Google suggests that everything will work if I used the £20 one, except visual voicemail, which I can give or take. The 3G is pretty important though as you are all aware.

It seems that it would work, but I just want to see if anyone has done the same or knows anyone who has done the same as I plan to do.

Still nothing more than rumours but apparently one of the case manufacturers are listing a case for the iPhone Nano

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/12/22/case-...n-iphone-nano/

I cant see the point of an iPhone nano. The keyboard couldnt be any smaller I dont think, before users would start to find it impossible with normal sized fingers to type an email or text without serious auto-correct, so unless they turn the entire front of the product into a screen and cut off the borders, it will be pointless.

The natural human desire for having everything more streamlined and efficient is now meeting a fairly major obstruction - evolution lol. Even Apple can't force design that one.

With respect, that is a little tenuous

Gonna get mine tomorrow. O2 offer for bods at my work which I only saw today, means a 30% reduction in the monthly contract amount. sweet!

Enjoy the jesus phone

looked for it know where to be found

first message from the Jesus phone. I am a convert! One question though. How can I find out if I am using 3g, edge or wifi?

Next to the signal bars you will either have a dot (GPRS) an E (Edge) or a 3G (I'll let you guess on that one)

Cool. I've turned Location Services off to save battery power, but will I save power by disabling 3G and only switching it on when I am surfing?

I didn't. Mine was left with a neighbour yesterday, and it's brilliant.

If you're happy with the form and capacity of the current 3G then there's no reason to wait. You might only want to wait to see if there is a bigger (32GB capacity) version, or a nano... or maybe just a price reduction in the new year.

anyone know how it works with roaming?

Don't want to accidentally get a huge bill when I go on holiday.

Data roaming is disabled on the phone by default - there's a menu option to turn it on/off.

There's only one place this can go - announcing the iPhone Shuffle.

Has anyone come up with a solution to the delete key sticking? I thought it had been sorted with the software upgrade but it's happening all the time now. Bloody annoying when you have typed a long reply for the BBS only to have to sit there and watch it get deleted word by bloody word.

Does this happen with more than one safari window open?

I haven't specifically been checking for that Dave but on the last few occasions I do know that I had at least two Safari sessions open at the time.

Is this the problem then?

It can be if for example you had a page open that uses lots of ram on the iphone.

Just check next time.

first post with my iPhone, it's been a relevation so far. My one niggle is the keyboard doesn't go into landscape natively for email and I have to use the easywriter app.

That could well be the case as I have had our new website open pretty much permenantly on a tab checking on progress.

Cheers for the workaround Dave. :)

my parents just brought a big i-phone manual apprently tells you everything you need to know

Trying to upgrade to 3G today. Bloody system was down when I rang earlier :grrr:

I need a new one cos I've lost my bloody earphones.

I've had mine for a week and a half, and I'm just amazed at how well it all works. How the hell have Nokia/Ericsson/Symbian/Microsoft failed to make anything even close to this with so many years experience? Windows mobile should have been this good years ago.

Android's could be a good competitor if it gets onto some decent hardware.