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Dave 31-12-2008 10:28 PM

windows mobile is shit but symbian takes shitness to new, yet undiscovered levels.

If Nokia don't make some of their new phones work in 2009, we will be talking about them like now talk about palm...

Blind_Eagle 01-01-2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodstoneEagle
Trying to upgrade to 3G today. Bloody system was down when I rang earlier :grrr:

I need a new one cos I've lost my bloody earphones.

As justification for buying a new iPhone "I've lost my bloody earphones" has got to take the biscuit. :D

Blind_Eagle 01-01-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
It can be if for example you had a page open that uses lots of ram on the iphone.

Just check next time.

OK I followed the path of iDave and have closed all Safari sessions other than one running the BBS. Thrice I have had mad delete key syndrome when I had no other tabs open.

This is the Judas of the Jesus phone :(

Dave 01-01-2009 04:24 PM

Sucks, can't see anything on google other than what I suggested.

http://pleasefixtheiphone.com/problems/view/2971

Oliver V 01-01-2009 11:04 PM

Could anyone please explain what cellular network data means?

Dave 01-01-2009 11:05 PM

Internet access on a mobile phone

Oliver V 01-01-2009 11:08 PM

And can that include access from the wi-fi in our house?

Dave 01-01-2009 11:11 PM

No.

This is accessing the internet via 3G or gprs NOT wifi

Oliver V 01-01-2009 11:13 PM

And can I at all prevent the phone from accessing the internet by any other means but wifi?
I was under the impression that I was only using wifi for browsing and certain applications but now I'm not so sure.

Ridcully 02-01-2009 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver Varcoe
And can I at all prevent the phone from accessing the internet by any other means but wifi?
I was under the impression that I was only using wifi for browsing and certain applications but now I'm not so sure.

If you have a UK phone and have cellular data off (roaming) then the only way you will be using applications or the internet is via wifi if you are not in the UK.

In the UK you would clearly be using 3G, Edge or GPRS. You can turn 3G off as well if you wanted to (eg. to save power) but you'd have to have Edge and GPRS enabled.

Oliver V 02-01-2009 12:20 AM

Thanks both of you, I found this website http://brent.kearneys.ca/2008/07/21/...ternet-access/, it's a quick read and if either of you could take a look and let me know if that will solve my problem I'd appreciate it.

Ridcully 02-01-2009 12:38 AM

Oliver easiest way to try is to switch off wifi and see if you can access the internet before the fix and after...

Oliver V 02-01-2009 01:35 AM

Alright got it now.

Thank you both I wouldn't have been happy with the already expensive bill I get on the contract they offer in this country.

KingsleY 03-01-2009 11:30 AM

Posters up at Macworld saying "Even the small talk will be big" hmm iphone nano that sounds ike...although it isnt an official apple poster

Blind_Eagle 03-01-2009 04:57 PM

How do you work that out from that ad then?

Serious question, I'd read that to suggest a bigger handset!!

Blind_Eagle 03-01-2009 04:59 PM

Forget that. I've been drinking. :D

Heb 7:4 03-01-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random*
Windows mobile should have been this good years ago.

My windows mobile is brilliant. I realise this is difficult to believe for anyone who has every suffered a Windows Mobile before! Am very happy with it though

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,...9299703,00.htm

Still thinking of upgrading my personal phone to an iPhone later in the year, but no rush for the present. Might as well wait to see if a larger one comes out that could replace my iPod.

Ridcully 03-01-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingsleY
Posters up at Macworld saying "Even the small talk will be big" hmm iphone nano that sounds ike...although it isnt an official apple poster

New Mac Mini...

KingsleY 03-01-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridcully
New Mac Mini...

Could be...but small "talk" seems specifically a phone.

Although it is almost certain a new mac mini will be announced by the sound of things

Dave 06-01-2009 08:28 PM

Ummmm.....

knowlesyUCLA 07-01-2009 11:02 PM

So I have an iPhone in my possession with a 3G O2 Simplicity sim card all ready to go. Put the sim card in, having restored the phone, open iTunes. Now I am confronted with a message saying 'Waiting for activation. This may take some time'. Earlier I must have waited for about 4 hours. How long is this going to take??!! Is something wrong? The phone I have is second hand, might that be the issue?

Dave 07-01-2009 11:11 PM

could be anything up to 24 hours....

Dave 07-01-2009 11:11 PM

who is using twitter on the Iphone?

knowlesyUCLA 08-01-2009 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
could be anything up to 24 hours....

still not done, been well over 24 now. did it have to be connected to iTunes the entire time? Its pissing me off majorly. O2 customer services i suppose...

Dave 08-01-2009 10:20 PM

reset it again

knowlesyUCLA 08-01-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
reset it again

ok done that, will wait and see. you didn't mean restore it did you? I went through the general menu on the settings. what am i actually waiting to happen? a text?

Dave 08-01-2009 10:39 PM

You have connected it to iTunes - right?

knowlesyUCLA 08-01-2009 10:51 PM

yeah its connected. sim card installed and left with 'No service' where the reception should be. I definitely have a 3G sim and that, so should be working. What else to do?

Dave 08-01-2009 10:53 PM

Call 02

knowlesyUCLA 08-01-2009 10:54 PM

Will do at some point, maybe take it in. Cheers Dave.

Blind_Eagle 09-01-2009 11:38 AM

My Jesus phone is the first casualty of this trip to Ireland. :( The screen lost a battle with the local granite and is smashed to fek.

She still works mind, just a very sad sight to behold.

GodstoneEagle 09-01-2009 05:14 PM

:(

Dave 09-01-2009 05:45 PM

Skype Lite on the Iphone?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/09/skype_lite/

James 09-01-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

I won't bother to get that.

FRING allows you to use Skype (including Skype out) when you have a WiFi connection - and the Skype messenger service works fine over 3g and edge. That's good enough for me - with Skype Lite, it seems as if you would have to pay for a local call using the service. What's the point of that, unless you make loads of International Call? As the reviewer points out:

Quote:

Remarkably Skype has managed to spin this into a feature: "Call on Skype wherever you are - no WiFi or 3G required", as though the ability to make phone calls over the phone network were something new...
No thanks.

Dave 09-01-2009 09:21 PM

Fring doesn't actually allow you to text chat with other skype users unless they are logged into fring, does it?

Dave 09-01-2009 09:22 PM

And there is the whole issue of giving a third party your Skype login

Stavros 69 12-01-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
who is using twitter on the Iphone?

What is twitter ?

hong_kong_hg 12-01-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Fring doesn't actually allow you to text chat with other skype users unless they are logged into fring, does it?

I seem to be able to text chat with my colleagues who are using normal skype on their desktops/laptops from Fring ok.

James 12-01-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Fring doesn't actually allow you to text chat with other skype users unless they are logged into fring, does it?

Of course it does!

My sister lives in Bangkok and uses Skype on her PC. She has never heard of Fring. I am able to talk to her (voice when using my wireless home network - text by Edge/3g) when she is logged into Skype.

Why don't you try it and see?

Blind_Eagle 13-01-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle
My Jesus phone is the first casualty of this trip to Ireland. :( The screen lost a battle with the local granite and is smashed to fek.

She still works mind, just a very sad sight to behold.

My new baby turned up this morning and I am pleased to confirm that restoring all my old data and setting transferred across as smoothly as you could possibly hope for.

Interestingly the battery life appears infinately better than my old handset (on it since it arrived and still a full green bar) my sticky text delete key problem also appears to have gone away.

Happy me. :)

patch 14-01-2009 01:45 PM

Just received an iphone on 02 30.00 a month tariff, what I can't work out is if receiving and sending emails included in the tariff, anyone know?

Thanks

Ecalap Latsyrc 14-01-2009 02:00 PM

It is included - counts as data.

I'm going to have to cave and get a case of some sort, already got nasty scratches in the plastic after less than a month. Preferably something grippier than the gloss plastic as I keep dropping it on concrete.

Blind_Eagle 14-01-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle
My new baby turned up this morning and I am pleased to confirm that restoring all my old data and setting transferred across as smoothly as you could possibly hope for.

Interestingly the battery life appears infinately better than my old handset (on it since it arrived and still a full green bar) my sticky text delete key problem also appears to have gone away.

Happy me. :)

They must have improved the battery is all I can say. I continued using the phone to browse most of last night, then intentially didn't charge it, have made and received a dozen calls today plus a couple of hours of browsing and has finally warned me that only 20% of the battery remains.

My old phone wouldn't have made it through last night. :)

jolly 14-01-2009 04:05 PM

i just got an iphone 8gb 24 a month with 600 mins and 600 texts free a month and free internet and wifi

Baloo 14-01-2009 04:24 PM

Has anyone taken the phone abroad? Is roaming enacted automatically? What about internet access? Any idea of the charges?

Answers by the end of today, please. ;)

James 14-01-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jolly
i just got an iphone 8gb 24 a month with 600 mins and 600 texts free a month and free internet and wifi

That's very good - did you have to pay anything for the Phone?

James 14-01-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baloo
Has anyone taken the phone abroad? Is roaming enacted automatically? What about internet access? Any idea of the charges?

Answers by the end of today, please. ;)

It's not included and very expensive. Switch of roaming in the Settings menu (it should be switched off by default).

jolly 14-01-2009 04:42 PM

i paid 98 for the phone i really like it are there any tips i need though ?

Blind_Eagle 14-01-2009 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James
It's not included and very expensive. Switch of roaming in the Settings menu (it should be switched off by default).

3 a meg in the EU. 6 a meg outside.

richdeniro 14-01-2009 08:12 PM

Nightmare!

Only had the phone for a month and it's decided it doesn't want to send text messages anymore.

Done a full restore and everything that o2/Apple have told me to. Still won't work.

Seems to be quite a widespread problem having done a google search. There is a fairly long thread on the o2 forums about it...

http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?...er=asc&start=0

The woman I phoned at o2 said I should send the phone off for repair but that could take ages for the phone to come back to me. I'm going to take it into the Apple shop on Regents Street tomorrow and hope they give me a new one... really don't fancy waiting for the best part of a month for them to repair it or decide to send me a new one.

Dave 14-01-2009 08:15 PM

Are you sure it's away for a month, fairly sure I read they were replaced in ten days

richdeniro 14-01-2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Are you sure it's away for a month, fairly sure I read they were replaced in ten days

The useless woman at o2 said up to three weeks.

To be honest even 10 days is too long. I really hope the apple store give me a new one tomorrow.

Dave 14-01-2009 08:26 PM

If you bought from 02 why would Apple exchange it?

richdeniro 14-01-2009 08:28 PM

Some people on that o2 forum claim they had theirs replaced at Apple shops.

Dave 14-01-2009 08:31 PM

Let us know how you get on

richdeniro 14-01-2009 08:33 PM

Will do!

RDSdaEAGLE 14-01-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
If you bought from 02 why would Apple exchange it?

Not sure if it's the case in the UK, but over here Apple are generally pretty good with replacing their own products, even if you bought them from somewhere else.

Conger 15-01-2009 07:40 AM

Does anyone know if, having gone and bought an 8gb iPhone, you can 6 months later go and exchange it for a 16gb one instead (at a cost, of course!)?

Blind_Eagle 15-01-2009 07:46 AM

I haven't heard of anyone being allowed to do that.

Dave 15-01-2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle
I haven't heard of anyone being allowed to do that.

I did. They let me upgrade from the 2G 8Gb to the 3G 16Gb for 150 quid and a new contract.

Only applies if you have a contract, obviously.

Conger 15-01-2009 08:20 AM

Excellent. I shall have to pop into an Apple store then.

Cheers

rednbluethrunth 15-01-2009 08:46 AM

does anyone know if the Samsung Omnia is any good, it has a flash and better cam than the i phone, also o2 are trying to make me have an 18 mnth contract with the i phone, saying Apple wont allow them to release them on a 12 mnth,

Thanks

KingsleY 15-01-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednbluethrunth
does anyone know if the Samsung Omnia is any good, it has a flash and better cam than the i phone, also o2 are trying to make me have an 18 mnth contract with the i phone, saying Apple wont allow them to release them on a 12 mnth,

Thanks

Don't do it, unless you REALLY want a good camera..thats the only thing I can think is better than the iphone

richdeniro 15-01-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDSdaEAGLE
Not sure if it's the case in the UK, but over here Apple are generally pretty good with replacing their own products, even if you bought them from somewhere else.

Pretty much what the guy I spoke to in the Regent Street store said today.

However got to go through the motions and have an appointment with of their in-store "Genius's" tomorrow before they'll give me a new one.

Blind_Eagle 16-01-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
I did. They let me upgrade from the 2G 8Gb to the 3G 16Gb for 150 quid and a new contract.

Only applies if you have a contract, obviously.

I think you will find that they were willing to do that as you were upgrading from 2G to 3G, not because you wanted to go from 8 to 16Gb.

:)

Dave 16-01-2009 10:16 AM

Oh - I thought that was what he was asking.

yeah - they won't let you upgrade a 3g to a bigger disk

richdeniro 16-01-2009 07:13 PM

Had my appointment with the 'Genius' in the Apple shop today.

He spent 10 mins doing some diognostic stuff with the phone and told me the problem is quite widespread. Sent a load of data to Apple from my phone and then gave me a new one. I didn't even have to show a receipt or anything.

Was pretty impressed with the service.

RDSdaEAGLE 16-01-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richdeniro
Had my appointment with the 'Genius' in the Apple shop today.

He spent 10 mins doing some diognostic stuff with the phone and told me the problem is quite widespread. Sent a load of data to Apple from my phone and then gave me a new one. I didn't even have to show a receipt or anything.

Was pretty impressed with the service.

From my experience, Apple actually seem to keep a record of all the products they produce, even if they are sold through a third party. As long as you're within warranty, they'll fix it.

One of the better companies out there, me thinks.

EagleSE24 19-01-2009 03:55 PM

I get my iphone delivered tomorrow!

After 2 years of using this piece of shite http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w550-1245.php

I can't wait to feel the difference.

KingsleY 19-01-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleSE24
I get my iphone delivered tomorrow!

After 2 years of using this piece of shite http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w550-1245.php

I can't wait to feel the difference.

Not sure if you will be impressed or not.

The w550 is widely regarding as one of the only user experiences which is just as good as the iPhone's

patch 21-01-2009 08:58 AM

Had my iphone for a couple of weeks now, overall very pleased - the only real gripe I have is using the zoom feature in safari, i seem to tap the screen a couple of times and sometimes it zooms other times not - something I am doing wrong?

Dave 21-01-2009 09:37 AM

Will depend on the webpage and if it's completed loading.

Using your finger and thumb to stretch is better, imvho

James 21-01-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patch
Had my iphone for a couple of weeks now, overall very pleased - the only real gripe I have is using the zoom feature in safari, i seem to tap the screen a couple of times and sometimes it zooms other times not - something I am doing wrong?

Yes - as Dave says, the trick is to 'stretch' the picture by putting your thumb and forefinger on the screen and widening or narrowing.

I didn't know about this for a while after I got my IPhone, and like you was frustrated by the tapping to enlarge feature. This doesn't work very well - and of course will only enlarge to a fixed size. By stretching the image, you can resize by any factor.

patch 21-01-2009 12:36 PM

Thanks Dave and James :)

Kevin T 21-01-2009 02:12 PM

I'm due an upgrade in March. All things are pointing to an Iphone. I love the look of email and browsing is ace.

But the camera is really holding me back. I have a SE 5MP camera phone at the moment, and don't use a seperate digital camera. The 2MP camera, lack of picture messaging and no flash is really making me think twice.

Dave 21-01-2009 02:19 PM

You don't care there is no drinks holder when driving a Ferrari

Kevin T 21-01-2009 02:24 PM

You might care if there was no back seat if you were looking for a family car.

James 21-01-2009 02:26 PM

They really shouldn't have bothered to put a camera in the IPhone. It's almost useless - and compares starkly with (most) of the other excellent features in the Phone. If a good camera is important to you, then go for something else - or simply carry a dedicated camera in addition.

I wouldn't be without the IPhone. I have had a number of leading edge mobiles before, and none has come close to rivaling this marvellous bit of kit. If you do go for it, I know that you won't regret it.

Oh, and there are drinks holders in Ferraris.

Stavros 69 21-01-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Will depend on the webpage and if it's completed loading.

Using your finger and thumb to stretch is better, imvho

I like a combo.

PalaceMonkey 21-01-2009 02:27 PM

I wonder how much complication would have been involved for apple to put in a better camera.

Not an award winning one, but one that is at least usable.

Lizzy 21-01-2009 02:36 PM

I just can't get my head round them not receiving picture messages?

That's just proper weird.

Dave 21-01-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzy
I just can't get my head round them not receiving picture messages?

That's just proper weird.

you email them...

Dave 21-01-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
I wonder how much complication would have been involved for apple to put in a better camera.

Not an award winning one, but one that is at least usable.

Well the biggest market for iphones is the USA where picture messaging isn't popular, the camera is way down the list of priorities

Kevin T 21-01-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
you email them...

What about sending them to other people who don't have an ipod/pda?

Kevin T 21-01-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Well the biggest market for iphones is the USA where picture messaging isn't popular, the camera is way down the list of priorities

I don't take photos to send to people. I take them to keep. Every single photo I've ever taken of James has been with a Sony Ericsson Cybershot.

But.... the music player software is crap on an SE as is the message viewing software. It would be nice if someone would bring out a phone that was all things to all men. If I go for an iPhone, I have to go out an buy a digital camera as well. Which I will never have on me when I want to take a photo, so it's pointless.

joe walker 21-01-2009 07:11 PM

I got one of these for Christmas (16GB 3G) and I love it!
Although...
My relationship with the auto-correction system on the keyboard is let's say bittersweet!
The ipod doesn't have a sleep facility
The camera doesn't have a flash or video function

Besides that though I do enjoy it thoroughly. The helicopter game application at 80p or something is a gift from God!

richdeniro 21-01-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizzy
I just can't get my head round them not receiving picture messages?

That's just proper weird.

There's an MMS application now that sorts that out for you.

Conger 21-01-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin T
I don't take photos to send to people. I take them to keep. Every single photo I've ever taken of James has been with a Sony Ericsson Cybershot.

But.... the music player software is crap on an SE as is the message viewing software. It would be nice if someone would bring out a phone that was all things to all men. If I go for an iPhone, I have to go out an buy a digital camera as well. Which I will never have on me when I want to take a photo, so it's pointless.

In danger of going a bit off topic, I had this very dilemna before I got my iphone, the camera was bothering me because of the photos of the kids, and was glad to have taken the plunge. Instead of then having the phone/camera problem, I decided that the videos I had of my kids were rubbish as they were being taken on our old stand-alone digital camera. So instead I got an iphone and a separate camera/HD camcorder. Only 150 for a 10mp camera that does 720p HD videos, pocket sized too. Decided that this would serve me better than the phone option. The iPhone camera is good enough for casual pics you're not going to keep though.

And I am now an iPhone bore - I love it and can't believe I ever doubted getting one

Kevin T 21-01-2009 07:29 PM

To be honest I will probably get one.

Dave 21-01-2009 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin T
What about sending them to other people who don't have an ipod/pda?

everyone has email surely?

EagleSE24 21-01-2009 07:58 PM

Just got my iphone. Could really use some instructions! this is complicated!

Dave 21-01-2009 08:05 PM

mash the buttons with your fists

Kevin T 21-01-2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
everyone has email surely?

Well yes, but I don't know any of my mates email addresses.

Dave 21-01-2009 08:28 PM

twitter your pics? Flickr your pics direct from the jesus phone? facebook your photos direct from the jesus phone?

Options are pretty much endless.

OscillateWildly 21-01-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleSE24
Just got my iphone. Could really use some instructions! this is complicated!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

Stavros 69 21-01-2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
twitter your pics? Flickr your pics direct from the jesus phone? facebook your photos direct from the jesus phone?

Options are pretty much endless.

Tell me more about twitter, it sounds great.

EagleSE24 21-01-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
mash the buttons with your fists

Now it's broke :(

Just far more options than I'm used to. Half an hour in it's looking good.

Ridcully 21-01-2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stavros 69
Tell me more about twitter, it sounds great.

:o

Dave 23-01-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

During Apple's earnings conference call yesterday, Apple COO Tim Cook fielded a wide variety of questions, but two answers in particular helped shed a bit of light on the likelihood that Apple would enter the netbook market or release a lower end iPhone.

iPhone Nano

The origins of a rumored iPhone Nano stretch back to July 2007 when a JP Morgan analyst essentially made it up out of thin air (citing "sources" in the supply channel). Since then, other analysts have chimed in and noted that if Apple truly wants to garner significant market share in the smartphone market, it needs to offer a variety of iPhone models at different price points.

Over the past few months, rumors about a cheap iPhone Nano have taken various forms. Some predicted an iPhone with a smaller screen, while others speculated that Apple would release an iPhone Nano with limited functionality (i.e, no access to the App Store). Adding fuel to the flames of speculation were case renderings for an iPhone Nano like device that were recently posted online by case manufacturers.

Tim Cook, however, squashed any notion of an iPhone Nano at Apple's conference call. In response to a question about iPhone pricing, Cook stressed that Apple will not be producing low-end phones, and that Apple has no desire to be the market leader in terms of units sold. Instead, Cook emphasized that Apple will continue to focus on building the "world's best phone."

This makes perfect sense in light of the fact that the iPhone 3G hasn't even been out yet for a year, and that the iTunes App Store continues to grow at an astounding rate. It makes more sense for Apple to continue pushing the feature-rich iPhone 3G instead of trying to introduce and market a new iPhone model with comparatively limited functionality and lower margins.

As a final nail in the coffin, Cook, in response to a question about iPhone competitors, put to rest any ideas that a smaller form factor iPhone is something Apple would even consider:
/

PalaceMonkey 23-01-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Well the biggest market for iphones is the USA where picture messaging isn't popular, the camera is way down the list of priorities

aha. Bloody Americans.


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