Originally Posted by Oldtown Eagle (Post 16751715)

Or, has happened to me this week, a ring pull that just snaps off.

Originally Posted by brighton_eagle (Post 16751713)

The diagnostic process may have changed - my youngest was diagnosed 6 years ago - but at that point it was an evidence gathering exercise. They considered home, school and social settings and also what they saw in interviews with the person being diagnosed. It wasn't easy to get a diagnosis, contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, although it was much easier than getting them an autism diagnosis, which took several years, and my youngest was misdiagnosed by the first consultant who concluded that he couldn't be autistic because he was popular and had lots of friends.

In general in my experience, teachers and other professionals seem to fall into three camps:

The ones that understand and make accommodations accordingly. Unsurprisingly my children have excelled in these classes.

The ones that don't understand but are willing to learn and can be bought onside with patience

The ones that think it's nonsense and just bad behaviour. These tend to be older teachers, although not always, and should probably be encouraged to retire.

Originally Posted by brighton_eagle (Post 16751713)

The diagnostic process may have changed - my youngest was diagnosed 6 years ago - but at that point it was an evidence gathering exercise. They considered home, school and social settings and also what they saw in interviews with the person being diagnosed. It wasn't easy to get a diagnosis, contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, although it was much easier than getting them an autism diagnosis, which took several years, and my youngest was misdiagnosed by the first consultant who concluded that he couldn't be autistic because he was popular and had lots of friends.

In general in my experience, teachers and other professionals seem to fall into three camps:

The ones that understand and make accommodations accordingly. Unsurprisingly my children have excelled in these classes.

The ones that don't understand but are willing to learn and can be bought onside with patience

The ones that think it's nonsense and just bad behaviour. These tend to be older teachers, although not always, and should probably be encouraged to retire.

Originally Posted by brighton_eagle (Post 16751713)

The diagnostic process may have changed - my youngest was diagnosed 6 years ago - but at that point it was an evidence gathering exercise. They considered home, school and social settings and also what they saw in interviews with the person being diagnosed. It wasn't easy to get a diagnosis, contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, although it was much easier than getting them an autism diagnosis, which took several years, and my youngest was misdiagnosed by the first consultant who concluded that he couldn't be autistic because he was popular and had lots of friends.

In general in my experience, teachers and other professionals seem to fall into three camps:

The ones that understand and make accommodations accordingly. Unsurprisingly my children have excelled in these classes.

The ones that don't understand but are willing to learn and can be bought onside with patience

The ones that think it's nonsense and just bad behaviour. These tend to be older teachers, although not always, and should probably be encouraged to retire.

Originally Posted by stevek (Post 16751769)

Thanks for sharing that, Will. A couple of observations from me -

- doing the first needn't and shouldn't be dependent on having a diagnosis.
- if only the third category were just older teachers, and not, for example, prominent government advisers.

Originally Posted by Eagle's Nest (Post 16751790)

I have a friend who adopted two children with his wife. The eldest, a boy, has ADHD which was thought to be caused by his mother's drinking and taking drugs with the baby in utero.

Originally Posted by brighton_eagle (Post 16751796)

This is an interesting one to me, and shows the danger of confusing cause and correlation. There are studies that suggest that ADHD is higher in children whose mothers have alcohol or drug dependency. BUT, there are also plenty of studies that show alcohol and drug dependency is higher in adults with ADHD, presumably as a method of self medication. Chuck in the fact that girls and women were far less likely to get an ADHD diagnosis, and that there's lot of evidence that ADHD is genetic, and it may just be a case that the ADHD gene is passed down and it has nothing to do with alcohol or drug abuse.

I'm kind of lairy about these sort of connections, because parents of children with SEN like autism and ADHD spend a lot of time blaming themselves in various ways, or being blamed by various agencies.

Anyway, apologies. I've probably diverted this thread enough.

Originally Posted by brighton_eagle (Post 16751796)

This is an interesting one to me, and shows the danger of confusing cause and correlation. There are studies that suggest that ADHD is higher in children whose mothers have alcohol or drug dependency. BUT, there are also plenty of studies that show alcohol and drug dependency is higher in adults with ADHD, presumably as a method of self medication. Chuck in the fact that girls and women were far less likely to get an ADHD diagnosis, and that there's lot of evidence that ADHD is genetic, and it may just be a case that the ADHD gene is passed down and it has nothing to do with alcohol or drug abuse.

I'm kind of lairy about these sort of connections, because parents of children with SEN like autism and ADHD spend a lot of time blaming themselves in various ways, or being blamed by various agencies.

Anyway, apologies. I've probably diverted this thread enough.

Originally Posted by Nth Kent Eagle (Post 16751537)

Buying tins of tuna and then finding there isn't a ring pull.

Originally Posted by churley1988 (Post 16751832)

Getting back to the office to find people have heated up their tuna in the communal microwave :wallbash:

Originally Posted by firesign (Post 16751904)

Footballers taking their shirt off to celebrate scoring a goal.

Originally Posted by firesign (Post 16751904)

Footballers taking their shirt off to celebrate scoring a goal.

Originally Posted by churley1988 (Post 16751832)

Getting back to the office to find people have heated up their tuna in the communal microwave :wallbash:

Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16752009)

Yeah, sounds fishy to me

Originally Posted by churley1988 (Post 16752013)

All I’m saying is, there’s a time and a plaice for it.

Originally Posted by churley1988 (Post 16752013)

All I’m saying is, there’s a time and a plaice for it.