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James 29-09-2008 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ridcully
Have you killed it James?
No - but I had problems. Several of my paid-for applications stopped working for some reason and the IPhone kept crashing, so I have reinstated it for the time being.

One big triumph over the weekend however was successfully unlocking my T-Mobile USB 'Web and Walk' modem, using instructions found on the Web. The Sim Card from my IPhone 3g works fine with it, so I can use my new account with my Laptop and get the full 3g benefit.

Ridcully 29-09-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
No - but I had problems. Several of my paid-for applications stopped working for some reason and the IPhone kept crashing, so I have reinstated it for the time being.

One big triumph over the weekend however was successfully unlocking my T-Mobile USB 'Web and Walk' modem, using instructions found on the Web. The Sim Card from my IPhone 3g works fine with it, so I can use my new account with my Laptop and get the full 3g benefit.

Good news on the modem.

Bad news on the iphone, and it all sounds so simple according to the lifehacker instructions.

Dave 29-09-2008 08:53 AM

It's pretty easy

ozzieEagle 29-09-2008 09:31 AM

Viewty Airshare..... and 16gig microsd card and upwards capacity.

Hows your camera guys ?

Do you think the Iphone will actually catch up to the Viewty eventually ?

Just stirring, however the Iphone isnt the great leap forward that people seem to think.


http://ezinearticles.com/?LG-KU990-V...les&id=1449901

http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/sh...ad.php?t=25815

Dave 29-09-2008 09:33 AM

Bless

ozzieEagle 29-09-2008 09:50 AM

Just in case anyone reading doesn't want to waste their money in a lemming like frenzy.... Heres some more Viewty Apps... pity about the gps but they are working on it.

http://www.mobileexpert.co.uk/mobile...-software.html

Oh and there are 64 gig Micro sd Cards on the Horizon, so you will be able to use this phone for a long long while.

Dave 29-09-2008 10:29 AM

I think it's good that there are lower end phones for people to cheap to get an Iphone.

ozzieEagle 29-09-2008 10:45 AM

I reckon the advertising Guru's have done a fantastic job with the Apple brand. It's amazing the kind of people they have sucked in.

No wonder people working in advertising get paid so well, they obviously push the right buttons.

The only thing lesser about the Viewty is the advertising revenue.

Now lets move on to Android eh ;)

Dave 29-09-2008 11:23 AM

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The only thing lesser about the Viewty is the advertising revenue.
Nonsense.

You don't buy a car because it has the largest engine,

The Iphone kicks the viewtys ass on a number of levels, including, but not limited to

* Styling
* Operating system
* Browsing experience
* Ipod experience
* Synchronisation
* App store

Brett 29-09-2008 11:51 AM

I thought this was the thread for iPhone users?

I always think there is something a bit desperate about people coming into forums/threads for Apple devices just to slag off an Apple device.

If the other devices are that good, then why such insecurity about the choice, which manifests itself in having to go look for Apple users to argue with?

ozzieEagle 29-09-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Brett
I thought this was the thread for iPhone users?

I always think there is something a bit desperate about people coming into forums/threads for Apple devices just to slag off an Apple device.

If the other devices are that good, then why such insecurity about the choice, which manifests itself in having to go look for Apple users to argue with?

I am simply offering an alternative, albeit in a theatre which doesnt want to believe.

Just evened up the playing field slightly, with some choices that most people didnt know about, specifically the myth that the Viewty only has 2gigs of memory.

James Melody 29-09-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
XDVID is open source
What is XDVID?

Ridcully 29-09-2008 02:43 PM

Bet you wished you had an iphone tho ;)

ozzieEagle 29-09-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Ridcully
Bet you wished you had an iphone tho ;)
LOL, I've a mobile account with two phones in my name, neither are mine. I worked out that for me, Mobiles equate to keeping me on a leash.

I do like tinkering with the phones in this household though :p

Dave 29-09-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by James Melody
What is XDVID?
xvid

Brett 29-09-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ozzieEagle
I am simply offering an alternative, albeit in a theatre which doesnt want to believe.
Islamic fundamentalists use that line, as well.

AndyStreet 29-09-2008 05:16 PM

I've used the Viewty a fair amount in the past. It has nothing on the iPhone in any sense other than the camera.

glaziers fan 29-09-2008 08:58 PM

how do i transfer contacts from iphone to another phone?

ie are they on the sim card automatically?

Dave 29-09-2008 09:00 PM

No, they are stored on the phone. When you backup your phone you can transfer to another phone.

The Mac also has the 'contacts' app, I can't speak for windowze

James Melody 30-09-2008 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Dave
xvid
Ah, I thought I was missing some new codec.......

Dave 30-09-2008 12:44 PM

Nice

http://www.ismashphone.com/2008/09/pdanet.html

richdeniro 04-10-2008 09:17 PM

Anyone know if a nano version of the Iphone will be released..?

Lion 04-10-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Nice

http://www.ismashphone.com/2008/09/pdanet.html

Sounds good - though I hear that Jailbreaking the 3g iphone when on o2 is breaking the data connection.

Anyone here done it yet?

J

NO1FAN 04-10-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
Nice

http://www.ismashphone.com/2008/09/pdanet.html

I havent had a reason until now but looks a very good reason to break the iphone

Dave 04-10-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by Lion
Sounds good - though I hear that Jailbreaking the 3g iphone when on o2 is breaking the data connection.

link?

eddieskyclad 04-10-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Brett
I tried doing one for the BBS but the icon is just the main page and looks a bit guff.
I've just found out that you can change the icon that's displayed by zooming in. So if you zoom in close on the Eagle (or the CPFC BBS writing) and then add the page to your homescreen then it'll use that as your icon.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 03:47 PM

Fring is now out on iPhone, MSN, Skype etc all included including free VOIP calls or use Skype out for cheap calls to friends over a wifi network.

Dave 05-10-2008 04:27 PM

I'm hugely wary of entering my IM details into any third party apps that aren't open source

James 05-10-2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ridcully
Fring is now out on iPhone, MSN, Skype etc all included including free VOIP calls or use Skype out for cheap calls to friends over a wifi network.
BRILLIANT!! - It works! Finally, Skype on the iPhone.

It doesn't work with Skype out - but I have just had a conversation with my Sister in Bangkok using my iPhone. Thanks very much for pointing this out.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
I'm hugely wary of entering my IM details into any third party apps that aren't open source
Risks with everything on the internet though, if you want VOIP without unlocking its the only available solution at the moment. I guess the only solace is its from the guy that used to be in charge at ICQ and has been steadily progressing the idea of Fring over the past year. It has an open source API available for add-ons which is why its proving popular.

As first to market it should get quite an advantage over the others. I'd recommend that passwords are unique for any apps to lessen risk.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
BRILLIANT!! - It works! Finally, Skype on the iPhone.

It doesn't work with Skype out - but I have just had a conversation with my Sister in Bangkok using my iPhone. Thanks very much for pointing this out.

Should work with Skype out, are you sure you've got credit?

Agree its a major step forward.

James 05-10-2008 04:48 PM

This is immense. I am so pleased with this.

James 05-10-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ridcully
Should work with Skype out, are you sure you've got credit?

Agree its a major step forward.

I have - but Skype out doesn't seem to work. Are you able to try it?

Dave 05-10-2008 05:02 PM

skype out works for me - serious lag though

It's also a funny with showing users online or not.

Dave 05-10-2008 05:03 PM

Apple will clean up when they release something that can run in memory - does fring run in memory on unlocked phones?

James 05-10-2008 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
skype out works for me - serious lag though

It's also a funny with showing users online or not.

OK - I am trying to dial my home number - so I am using the keypad and dialling +441483 plus my number. When I press 'Skype Out' the application terminates. What am I doing wrong?

Dave 05-10-2008 05:11 PM

the number is wrong

Dave 05-10-2008 05:13 PM

It also appears that the skype text chat uses frings chat server not skype although calling works

It's still being lame with showing who is online

James 05-10-2008 05:14 PM

Every time I dial a number - I get an immediate 'Call Terminated' when I press 'Skype Out'.

My area code is 01483 - so what should I be dialling? On my PC, it's +441483 ....

James 05-10-2008 05:16 PM

It's a shame that this won't work on 3g. It's only on a WiFi connection I believe.

Dave 05-10-2008 05:17 PM

00441483....

James 05-10-2008 05:47 PM

Now I feel foolish.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
Apple will clean up when they release something that can run in memory - does fring run in memory on unlocked phones?
It doesn't run in memory and terminates as it per Apple standards when closed so it should be OK. I read somewhere that Jobs doesn't have a problem with VOIP over wifi.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Now I feel foolish.
Caught me out too James.

To be honest its a bit of a pain in the arse as you have to either retype the numbers you have in your phone book to adjust. Would like to see a software improvement for this for local calling.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
It's a shame that this won't work on 3g. It's only on a WiFi connection I believe.
Cant see that changing either.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 05:54 PM

Voice calling over MSN works to, just freaked out my daughter on the laptop upstairs :D

James 05-10-2008 05:56 PM

I love the iPhone - and I probably wouldn't have got one if it hadn't been for the BBS and this thread.

Dave 05-10-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Ridcully
It doesn't run in memory and terminates as it per Apple standards when closed so it should be OK.
The point is until their is IM that can run in memory it's effectively pointless.

I'm fairly sure that is what apple will hold out for with Ichat, make it the only IM client that runs in memory in the background and they will clean up.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
The point is until their is IM that can run in memory it's effectively pointless.

I'm fairly sure that is what apple will hold out for with Ichat, make it the only IM client that runs in memory in the background and they will clean up.

I think you may well be right there for a IM but for VOIP this is the danglies.

Ridcully 05-10-2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I love the iPhone - and I probably wouldn't have got one if it hadn't been for the BBS and this thread.
Now ditch the PC and get a Mac and you'll feel all the Apple lurrrrvvvveeeee :D

Dave 05-10-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ridcully
I think you may well be right there for a IM but for VOIP this is the danglies.
But what is the point if people can't skype you unless you are running fring?

I also have an issue with the call quality, the missing contacts in skype and the polling of skype's servers only every ten minutes (the last two are the same issue I guess).

It's a sucky user experience compared to the skype phone

Ridcully 05-10-2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
But what is the point if people can't skype you unless you are running fring?

I also have an issue with the call quality, the missing contacts in skype and the polling of skype's servers only every ten minutes (the last two are the same issue I guess).

It's a sucky user experience compared to the skype phone

But its the first and accepted by apple too, hopefully that means Skype can't be that far away.

My iPhone broke tonight :sob:

Despite no headphones being anywhere near it it still says they are, quite a common problem apparently but no matter how many times I plug in and unplug the headphones, no joy!!

Back to the Apple shop tomorrow for me.

Dave 05-10-2008 11:00 PM

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But its the first and accepted by apple too, hopefully that means Skype can't be that far away.
I'm obviously not being clear, sorry.

Even if there is 100% official Skype client until such times as it can be run in the background it's pretty much useless.

Sorry to hear about your phone :(

Ridcully 05-10-2008 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave
I'm obviously not being clear, sorry.

Even if there is 100% official Skype client until such times as it can be run in the background it's pretty much useless.

Sorry to hear about your phone :(

No I did get what you meant and I think for a number of people the functionality (ie. memory residence) is critical but for others, like me, its not an issue. I can live with only being 'seen' when I am in the app. For me I prefer it that way to be honest as I find the whole IM thing pretty intrusive so to go online and use it to make a pre-arranged point to point call is fine.

I also completely agree with your other point too, ie. iChat will be the killer app in this space when Apple finally decide to break their own rules.

As for the phone, it has now fixed itself, no idea why but its working again after the 100+ time of plugging the bloody earphones in, it has cleared. I did a full restore too which may have helped. Ironic thing is its the first time I've used the official headphones tonight and after that it broke. Oh well at least it saves me the hassle of having to go near Bluewater (for which I am always grateful :D)

Dave 06-10-2008 12:13 AM

http://www.fu-1.net/iphone.jpg

Ridcully 06-10-2008 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Dave
http://www.fu-1.net/iphone.jpg
More customising would be nice without the jailbreak.

Anyone know a better online TV guide than this http://www.tvguide.co.uk/iphone/ ?

toucaneagle 06-10-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Dave

Even if there is 100% official Skype client until such times as it can be run in the background it's pretty much useless.

This article shows that this functionality is in the pipeline but has been delayed...

http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itune...pe=allchandate

wickham_eagle 06-10-2008 08:59 PM

finally got my Iphone tonight and defiantly worth the wait :lux:

sheriff 06-10-2008 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddieskyclad
I've just found out that you can change the icon that's displayed by zooming in. So if you zoom in close on the Eagle (or the CPFC BBS writing) and then add the page to your homescreen then it'll use that as your icon.

Top sheet! Thanks fa that! What was that PDA net stuff about? Does it mean you can watch videos on iPhone?

sheriff 06-10-2008 10:55 PM

also, is there any way when updating an app to make it replace the old one automatically?

Blind_Eagle 06-10-2008 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheriff
also, is there any way when updating an app to make it replace the old one automatically?

Odd. I had this problem on my 2g iPhone but the 2.0 upgrade sorted it. I have never had it with the 3g handset.

Dave 06-10-2008 11:46 PM

http://www.fu-1.net/iphone/IMG_0010.PNG

http://www.fu-1.net/iphone/IMG_0011.PNG

james powell 07-10-2008 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

:love: That's nice!!!
What's it called?

wickham_eagle 07-10-2008 08:30 AM

can you use songs from your library to use as ringtones on the phone does anybody know or just stuck with the bog standard ones all ready installed ?

Axie 07-10-2008 09:37 AM

You can but I think they need to be in m4r format and limited to 30 seconds long. They are then shown as custom ringtones and sync from your itunes lib

wickham_eagle 07-10-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axie
You can but I think they need to be in m4r format and limited to 30 seconds long. They are then shown as custom ringtones and sync from your itunes lib


cheers thanks for that being using it for a little while now and gota say best phone i've ever had :lux:

Dave 07-10-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james powell
:love: That's nice!!!
What's it called?

Leopard UI I think

Dave 07-10-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axie
You can but I think they need to be in m4r format and limited to 30 seconds long. They are then shown as custom ringtones and sync from your itunes lib

except now you can edit the song length in itunes

PalaceMonkey 07-10-2008 10:43 AM

okey cokey. my contract has now expired and Ihave to choose my new phone.

Still don't know what to do :(

GodstoneEagle 07-10-2008 12:05 PM

I am too scared to jailbreak :(

Anyone know a cheaper place to replace my iPhone headphones, I plan to stick with the official ones as they have the nice remote control thingy.

wickham_eagle 07-10-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
okey cokey. my contract has now expired and Ihave to choose my new phone.

Still don't know what to do :(


go for the Iphone i was against getting one for ages but finally saw what all the fuss was about after using my mates one and defiantly worth getting :p

AndyStreet 07-10-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
okey cokey. my contract has now expired and Ihave to choose my new phone.

Still don't know what to do :(

Get an iPhone.

Ridcully 07-10-2008 12:36 PM

The best gadget I have ever owned without a doubt, go for it Monkey Man

PalaceMonkey 07-10-2008 12:38 PM

oh ok.

AndyStreet 07-10-2008 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridcully
The best gadget I have ever owned without a doubt, go for it Monkey Man

Likewise. The novelty still hasn't worn off 3 months later. :love:

PalaceMonkey 07-10-2008 12:45 PM

I suppose the 16gb is the one to go for.

Axie 07-10-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ridcully
Fring is now out on iPhone, MSN, Skype etc all included including free VOIP calls or use Skype out for cheap calls to friends over a wifi network.

Although I can't currently register on Froing because I've got a dot in my email address.

Ridcully 07-10-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axie
Although I can't currently register on Froing because I've got a dot in my email address.

Register a new email address without a dot for the time being and change when its fixed.

klimskady 07-10-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
I suppose the 16gb is the one to go for.

I have the 16gb one and it is the nuts... You will not be disappointed :p

ian_the_eagle 07-10-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridcully
FW 2.1 rumoured to be coming soon with cut and paste.

Any idea if the new update will allow for forwarding texts?

(Maybe you can already and I can't figure it out!)

Ridcully 07-10-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian_the_eagle
Any idea if the new update will allow for forwarding texts?

(Maybe you can already and I can't figure it out!)

Nope you can't, only just realised myself so it shows how much I miss that function!

GodstoneEagle 07-10-2008 06:56 PM

has anyone worked out how to stay logged in on the iPhone yet. Re:new bbs update?

Blind_Eagle 07-10-2008 07:36 PM

Clear your cookies Godstone and then log on, remembering to check the 'remember me' box. This solved it for me. :)

Dave 07-10-2008 09:53 PM

I have unjailbroken my Iphone, I feel sick

Blind_Eagle 08-10-2008 12:39 AM

Why?

Dave 08-10-2008 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle
Why?

That I gave up so easily

GodstoneEagle 08-10-2008 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle
Why?

I think he means why did you unjailbreak it dave?

I am also intrigued by this.

And cheers Blind, sorted. Love this little beauty.

Dave 08-10-2008 08:45 AM

basically it was a lot slower and I couldn't be sure if the 3G connection problems were normal or because I jailbroke

PalaceMonkey 08-10-2008 10:34 AM

going to order mine today

PalaceMonkey 08-10-2008 01:43 PM

woo!

got one!

I also managed to find a carphone warehouse person who was human and vaguely knowledgeable. sweet.

Dave 08-10-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
woo!

got one!

I also managed to find a carphone warehouse person who was human and vaguely knowledgeable. sweet.

enjoy.

PalaceMonkey 08-10-2008 01:50 PM

just reading paperwork.

"Do not bend or crush the iPhone"

phew, lucky they told me!

Dave 08-10-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
just reading paperwork.

"Do not bend or crush the iPhone"

phew, lucky they told me!

I always drop mine, it's more robust than my crackerry

PalaceMonkey 08-10-2008 02:01 PM

want go home & start playnig with it :(

Dave 08-10-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
want go home & start playnig with it :(

Tip: Charge it now!

Blind_Eagle 08-10-2008 03:17 PM

and as soon as you get home, charge it. ;)

PalaceMonkey 08-10-2008 03:26 PM

does it matter if I break the charging?

the man said to charge it for 12 hours.

batteries confuse me.

Dave 08-10-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceMonkey
does it matter if I break the charging?

the man said to charge it for 12 hours.

He be lying scum

PalaceMonkey 08-10-2008 03:41 PM

And I trusted him.

Though he did also lie about insurance.

But all sales people do that, so I let him off.


annoyingly, due to the contract I was on, I can't get the unlimited data surfing & whatnot till my next billing date

Dave 08-10-2008 03:43 PM

02 are idiots but I would trust them over the CPW, maybe.


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