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Dorking .Eagle 30-09-2019 12:21 PM

Blimey, another 495 cards. Good grief. The law of averages says probably another 18 of those will be Palace ones.

I think Panini know their customer base well, and a bit like Hornby trains or stamp collecting, collecting cards and stickers is becoming more and more of an adult pastime. You only have to work out how much it typically costs to complete a World Cup sticker album (and that's without the hardback book or the Swiss special edition silver edged stickers) to see that they know they can push it further and further away from kids pocket money range

If we weren't in the Premier League, I suspect there would be nothing at all, apart from the fixture card that the box office issues! Talk about two different worlds!

I wouldn't be surprised if Panini also do a further collection in March, equivalent to the old Match Attax Extra (to cover the January signings)

I did enjoy the retro style cards 'inspired by Football 77' albeit there was only Wilf Zaha featured. They would make a cool subset.

One of the big disappointments for me about the Prizm card collection is that the kits (or 'uniforms' as it says on the cards!) are out of date already!

On the school playground, the kids are collecting either Adrenalyn (the natural Premier League successor to Match Attax) or Champions League Match Attax. Topps are really pushing the CL Match Attax hard through kids mags like MOTD, and it features all the 'big 6' clubs, so you can see the attraction. If Chelsea or Man Utd fall out of the European competitions, then Topps won't even be able to feature them in their CL collections! That would be good!

Ockleywood 30-09-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN1509 (Post 14930813)
Against my better judgement , i have bitten the bullet and got quite a few of the Prizm parallels and the rarer stadium, auto cards, Have sadly paid more than i excepted, The Kaboom luka card costing me an arm & leg,
Yes the postage from the USA is very expensive , have asked sellers to put a very low value on the packet to avoid any customs charges,

Seen this link on another web-site below,
Panini Adrenalyn xl premier league PLUS 2019/20

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...ague-plus.html

Panini are really trying to get as much money back as soon as they can ,

John

Everyone to their own as to what to collect, if cards are your forte, fair enough, it is your money and obviously brings enjoyment to you.

Perhaps either you or Dorking can explain why send one card from USA that costs so little costs around 20 to be sent to the UK. It does not cost this to send one from UK to the USA.

Ockleywood 30-09-2019 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14929855)
It's crazy isn't it!

Thanks to ebay's 'global shipping programme' , most of the U.S. Sellers are charging the best part of 20 quid for postage.
Any package over 20 Quid (the contents value) should also attract the interest of the customs at this end, with the post office holding it ransom!

I bought a base cards set from an Australian seller and they arrived today. They are nice but a bit 'Plastic'' to be honest.

The cards also come in all sort of prism effect parallel versions. When I was a kid, collecting sticker albums, the 'shinies' were always special, but this is like a whole set of shinies!!!

When we got promoted in 2013, there had never been a collection like Premier Gold, with auto and Jersey cards, and so I chased all the parallels I could. I thought Palace would go straight down, so enjoy it while it lasted, and get as much as possible! 7 seasons on, I take a more laid back approach and just win for one of each card (and nearly always not the rarer parallels!)

I have a contact in China who gets me stuff at sensible prices, he knows loads of collectors and traders over there, and luckily nobody wants Palace cards!

In terms of premium auto and relic cards, I think that collectors of 'big 6' clubs really do pay 3 figure prices. For clubs like Palace, the crazy prices almost never get paid and the cards just gather dust as old stock for years to come.

The other thing about this year's Prizm, is that the stadium and club badge cards are inserted quite frugally (low ratios)compared to usual, so these will logically be dearer if people want them. Personally I am willing to play a long waiting game until the prices come down for some of the cards. Even the rarest stuff eventually surfaces at sensible prices if you keep waiting

Your base set has certainly travelled the world, printed in USA, moved over to Australia and finally landed in Dorking, Surrey. Mind you probably cheaper to send from Australia than the USA so do not blame you getting your set from down under.

Dorking .Eagle 30-09-2019 02:06 PM

The postage from the USA is circa $20 because of a thing called the global shipping programme. I'm not an expert on it, but my understanding is that the seller (usually in the USA) sends the item to a depot somewhere, and then it gets sent out from there to the customer.

The supposed attractiveness to the seller is that they don't have to work out all sorts of different postage prices for different countries/regions in the world, as ebay automatically quotes a price during the purchase.

I think it also gives the seller some sort of protection when selling to the other side of the world that there won't be an accusation of "I never received it, I claim my refund", because the global shipping programme provides a tracked, signed for service.

What these USA sellers don't realise, is that a $20 delivery levy effectively makes these cards unattractively priced. If you have to pay $20 postage for a $1 - $20 card, it's at least doubling the price, so unless you REALLY want a particular card it's a deterrect, and cards of a value above $20 then start to attract the attention of customs and import fees.

Which is nuts when you think that these cards are of our local team up the road here in England!

The far east sellers have a better chance of selling, as usually their postage rates are $6, and rarely more than $8

As I mentioned, I have a guy in Beijing who gets me cards at very good prices and sends them letter post to me, so $5 and no customs interference. I'm not in the market for the high priced stuff though.

These card companies know exactly what they are doing when they intentionally create rare cards which are 1/10, 1/8, 1/5 and even 1/1. I've got some of these rarities from over the years, mainly when an exact card type only comes in such a limited number, but almost all have been from using contacts and being on the ball. Sometimes you have to be prepared to wait a very long time and set up ebay 'saved searches' to notify you months/years later!

I don't see a great deal of point in paying out 100 for a card which is 1/10, when a near identical one is 1/100 and 15, the only difference being a slightly different background hue, and the miniscule serial number

JOHN1509 30-09-2019 03:24 PM

Even with the $20 postage, i bidded on a rarer Prizm card couple days back, totally forgot when bidding about not going over 20 mark to avoid the dreaded customs fees, But ebay added them on already :(

Subtotal (1 item) US $21.50
Postage US $16.58
Import charges US $11.72
Order total US $49.80

Dorking .Eagle 30-09-2019 03:30 PM

Hong Kong sellers are my preference for that very reason!

JOHN1509 30-09-2019 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14931578)
Hong Kong sellers are my preference for that very reason!

Just had a message back from another US seller to who i brought quite a few palace cards from, asked him if he could put a low value on the package, as in total, the cards came to nearly 26, his answer was...

Unfortunately, United States law requires us to specify the accurate value of the package. We apologize for the inconvenience.


Looks like another 11-14 customs extra charge:veryangry

I'm done with getting stuff from the US

Beaky Bee 30-09-2019 04:35 PM

Not read through ALL of this thread, so any of you collect Godfrey Phillips, Pinnace Football cards ? K card, medium and cabinet size

Neil the Eagle 30-09-2019 04:57 PM

Yes Beaky, My collection is from 1906 to 2013 - I completely lost interest when we hit the Prem and all those Parallel, Fragment of Player's shirts & Sig cards. Reading the last few posts, I am better off out of it, I think.

The Pinnace small cards are common as, the other sizes rare as the proverbial rocking house merde. Anything you want to know?

Beaky Bee 30-09-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil the Eagle (Post 14931663)
Yes Beaky, My collection is from 1906 to 2013 - I completely lost interest when we hit the Prem and all those Parallel, Fragment of Player's shirts & Sig cards. Reading the last few posts, I am better off out of it, I think.

The Pinnace small cards are common as, the other sizes rare as the proverbial rocking house merde. Anything you want to know?

I'm only referring too the Godfrey Phillips, Pinnace football cards, that were produced from circa 1921 through to 1923/4.
Appreciate the medium and cabinet size versions are like acquiring hens teeth, but any of you use auction houses to get these and if so, which one's ?
E-Bay I find is more for the K size (small) variety here

Dorking .Eagle 30-09-2019 06:43 PM

I have a medium size Pinnace card for J. Whibley. I bought it in 1997 from Murray's card shop in Hendon (from memory a long a slow tube journey away!) It cost me 2.60

I also have a medium card for B Menlove, albeit at the bottom it says Sheffield United

I must admit, I don't think I have seen a medium size Palace card for sale since then.

Cabinet size, I have A. Wood, J. Connor, J. Little, and R. McCracken. These were worth 7.50 in 1997

I must admit, I don't really keep up with collecting Palace cigarette cards these days, as I found filling the last few gaps in my collection almost impossible.

If anyone has a current, or even recent Cig Card catalogue, I would be interested (and grateful) if they could let me know what the catalogue price is these days for the 1913 Taddy Prominent Footballer cards. I have all the Palace ones now, but I am just curious as to how much they are listed for (original cards, not reprint series)

I am ever hopeful of one day obtaining the Pattreiouex/Casket card "F 167" (Radford and Mew) from Footballers 1922. I have a picture of it, but would like one day to get the real thing! Any leads appreciated!

Also a question (probably for Neil). Which Palace player is sticker number 79 from Top Sellers Football 72 ? (78 is Sewell and 80 is Kember). It's probably not all that rare, but it's an annoying gap!

Beaky Bee 30-09-2019 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14931757)
I have a medium size Pinnace card for J. Whibley. I bought it in 1997 from Murray's card shop in Hendon (from memory a long a slow tube journey away!) It cost me 2.60

I also have a medium card for B Menlove, albeit at the bottom it says Sheffield United

I must admit, I don't think I have seen a medium size Palace card for sale since then.

Cabinet size, I have A. Wood, J. Connor, J. Little, and R. McCracken. These were worth 7.50 in 1997

I must admit, I don't really keep up with collecting Palace cigarette cards these days, as I found filling the last few gaps in my collection almost impossible.

If anyone has a current, or even recent Cig Card catalogue, I would be interested (and grateful) if they could let me know what the catalogue price is these days for the 1913 Taddy Prominent Footballer cards. I have all the Palace ones now, but I am just curious as to how much they are listed for (original cards, not reprint series)

I am ever hopeful of one day obtaining the Pattreiouex/Casket card "F 167" (Radford and Mew) from Footballers 1922. I have a picture of it, but would like one day to get the real thing! Any leads appreciated!

Also a question (probably for Neil). Which Palace player is sticker number 79 from Top Sellers Football 72 ? (78 is Sewell and 80 is Kember). It's probably not all that rare, but it's an annoying gap!


Nice response and collection. Murray's card shop .. been there a few times.

Beaky Bee 30-09-2019 06:59 PM

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Added attachment of all the Pinnace cards out there

Dorking .Eagle 30-09-2019 07:08 PM

Blimey! I remember there being the 4 different back versions for the miniature cards, but could never be doing with hunting every last possible variation!

I used to have a book about them, and I believe it had a picture of every single miniature card!

I wouldn't be surprised if the only 'easy to get' medium sized Pinnace cards are for the rugby teams that are featured

Ockleywood 02-10-2019 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14931519)
The postage from the USA is circa $20 because of a thing called the global shipping programme. I'm not an expert on it, but my understanding is that the seller (usually in the USA) sends the item to a depot somewhere, and then it gets sent out from there to the customer.

The supposed attractiveness to the seller is that they don't have to work out all sorts of different postage prices for different countries/regions in the world, as ebay automatically quotes a price during the purchase.

I think it also gives the seller some sort of protection when selling to the other side of the world that there won't be an accusation of "I never received it, I claim my refund", because the global shipping programme provides a tracked, signed for service.

What these USA sellers don't realise, is that a $20 delivery levy effectively makes these cards unattractively priced. If you have to pay $20 postage for a $1 - $20 card, it's at least doubling the price, so unless you REALLY want a particular card it's a deterrect, and cards of a value above $20 then start to attract the attention of customs and import fees.

Which is nuts when you think that these cards are of our local team up the road here in England!

The far east sellers have a better chance of selling, as usually their postage rates are $6, and rarely more than $8

As I mentioned, I have a guy in Beijing who gets me cards at very good prices and sends them letter post to me, so $5 and no customs interference. I'm not in the market for the high priced stuff though.

These card companies know exactly what they are doing when they intentionally create rare cards which are 1/10, 1/8, 1/5 and even 1/1. I've got some of these rarities from over the years, mainly when an exact card type only comes in such a limited number, but almost all have been from using contacts and being on the ball. Sometimes you have to be prepared to wait a very long time and set up ebay 'saved searches' to notify you months/years later!

I don't see a great deal of point in paying out 100 for a card which is 1/10, when a near identical one is 1/100 and 15, the only difference being a slightly different background hue, and the miniscule serial number

Thanks for explaining the postal system, total rip off in my book, how anybody wants to buy from USA at the $20 dollar rate I do not know, however if you want a specific card you have no choice.

Dorking .Eagle 02-10-2019 09:40 AM

If people don't mind playing the long game, then pretty much all of the various Prizm cards will find their way to the Far East sellers/traders in the long run. Of course there will be some rare parallels which might not, but if you're in that game, then you are probably prepared to pay the postage.

The rarest Palace card in the Prizm series this year is the Color Blast card. There is only one of these cards in every 8 cases, and then you have to factor in that there are 30 different Colour Blast cards, of which the Benteke card is only one. Apparently the Benteke one sold for $120 at a local auction over there. On ebay, you'd be 'lucky' to get a Color Blast card for under 200 to be honest, more for a player from one of the 'big clubs' and goodness knows what for a /5 gold power version, if any of these even get offered for sale (many would simply get traded directly between high end collectors)

Beaky Bee 02-10-2019 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14933162)
If people don't mind playing the long game, then pretty much all of the various Prizm cards will find their way to the Far East sellers/traders in the long run. Of course there will be some rare parallels which might not, but if you're in that game, then you are probably prepared to pay the postage.

The rarest Palace card in the Prizm series this year is the Color Blast card. There is only one of these cards in every 8 cases, and then you have to factor in that there are 30 different Colour Blast cards, of which the Benteke card is only one. Apparently the Benteke one sold for $120 at a local auction over there. On ebay, you'd be 'lucky' to get a Color Blast card for under 200 to be honest, more for a player from one of the 'big clubs' and goodness knows what for a /5 gold power version, if any of these even get offered for sale (many would simply get traded directly between high end collectors)

These Prizm cards, they just Premiership teams ?

Dorking .Eagle 02-10-2019 11:21 AM

Yes. Although before this season Panini didn't hold the licence to produce Premier League stuff, Topps did.

So last season, Topps were producing all the Premier League cards and stickers, and Panini were doing International stuff. So Panini did the (very famous) World Cup 2018 sticker album, but also a 2018 World Cup Prizm card collection

Until the end of last season, Topps had the Premier League licence, and had a very successful card collection out every year called Match Attax, but also some 'premium' card series, such as Premier Gold, and Platinum.


In my opinion, Panini are best at the sticker collections and Topps are best at card collections. The way it works though is that one company gets the Premier League licence, and produces everything. It's sometimes a bit hit and miss.

This season (2019/20) Topps do have the UEFA license, so are producing Match Attax cards and presumably also stickers for the Champions League and Europa League. Their Champions League/Europa League Match Attax card collection therefore features all 7 teams that are in Europe (all the 'big 6' plus Wolves), but then also all the other big Euro teams like Barca, Real Madrid etc. So it's quite attractive to glory hunting kids, as it's all the teams kids are attracted to, and can include Messi, Ronaldo etc. Yuk!

JOHN1509 03-10-2019 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14933162)

The rarest Palace card in the Prizm series this year is the Color Blast card. There is only one of these cards in every 8 cases, and then you have to factor in that there are 30 different Colour Blast cards, of which the Benteke card is only one. Apparently the Benteke one sold for $120 at a local auction over there. On ebay, you'd be 'lucky' to get a Color Blast card for under 200 to be honest, more for a player from one of the 'big clubs' and goodness knows what for a /5 gold power version, i

The color Blast is one card that even over coming years, will still be out of my price range, I've mainly got my eyes on the normal base set parallel's upto the blue & red cards, so far the prices haven't been too bad, The Luka Kaboom card cost me more than i expected 40+,
As i've now broken the bad of the cards i wanted, I'll just sit back and hopefully of coming time the other cards will trickle through at a lower price eg, Orange /25,Gold /10, Gold power /5
As i've seen from the Topps collections back from 2014, 2015, 2016, some of the rarer ones are a lot cheaper and can easy be picked up on the chaep side now

JOHN1509 04-10-2019 10:39 PM

Panini Adrenalyn XL
Sakho limited edition cards now on ebay,

Neil the Eagle 05-10-2019 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14931757)

Also a question (probably for Neil). Which Palace player is sticker number 79 from Top Sellers Football 72 ? (78 is Sewell and 80 is Kember). It's probably not all that rare, but it's an annoying gap!

79 Peter Wall

Dorking .Eagle 05-10-2019 09:57 AM

Thank you Neil, appreciated!

John - Yep same, got one of every Prizm card apart from the color blast card. Bought some bundles of different base card parallels just to have a range of the different card effects, but nowhere near all the 20+ different types! Bought what I like the look of but not what I consider is taking the pi$$!

Dorking .Eagle 29-10-2019 01:03 PM

PANINI PRIZM 19/20 PREMIER LEAGUE SWAP SHOP!
 
I have the following base cards as duplicates, which I am looking to swap (for anything I haven't got!)

214 GUAITA
Silver
Hyper

215 WARD
Multicolour

216 TOMKINS
Hyper

217 SCHLUPP
Breakaway silver

218 VAN AANHOLT
Hyper
Breakaway silver

219 SAKHO
Base
Multicolour
Red /149
Breakaway Teal /35

220 MCARTHUR
Breakaway silver
Breakaway Violet /75

221 MILIVOJEVIC
Multicolour
Hyper
Blue /199
Breakaway silver

222 KOUYATE
Breakaway silver

223 TOWNSEND
Silver
Multicolour
Hyper
Blue /199

224 MEYER
Hyper

225 ZAHA
Breakaway silver

226 KELLY

Multicolour
Breakaway silver

227 WICKHAM

Multicolour


Please note 'Silver' cards are almost identical to 'base' (apart from the prizm effect if you hold to light) and 'Hyper' cards are almost identical to Breakaway Silver cards.

If any collectors have very specific base cards that they are after that aren't mentioned above, whilst I may not have it in duplicate myself, I may be willing to swap what I have for cards that I need (so just ask)

Trades by pm preferred!

Ockleywood 29-10-2019 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14958972)
I have the following base cards as duplicates, which I am looking to swap (for anything I haven't got!)

214 GUAITA
Silver
Hyper

215 WARD
Multicolour

216 TOMKINS
Hyper

217 SCHLUPP
Breakaway silver

218 VAN AANHOLT
Hyper
Breakaway silver

219 SAKHO
Base
Multicolour
Red /149
Breakaway Teal /35

220 MCARTHUR
Breakaway silver
Breakaway Violet /75

221 MILIVOJEVIC
Multicolour
Hyper
Blue /199
Breakaway silver

222 KOUYATE
Breakaway silver

223 TOWNSEND
Silver
Multicolour
Hyper
Blue /199

224 MEYER
Hyper

225 ZAHA
Breakaway silver

226 KELLY

Multicolour
Breakaway silver

227 WICKHAM

Multicolour


Please note 'Silver' cards are almost identical to 'base' (apart from the prizm effect if you hold to light) and 'Hyper' cards are almost identical to Breakaway Silver cards.

If any collectors have very specific base cards that they are after that aren't mentioned above, whilst I may not have it in duplicate myself, I may be willing to swap what I have for cards that I need (so just ask)

Trades by pm preferred!

Having quickly worked out there are over twenty sets you can purchase it would appear another colour has come to light to me and that is Breakaway Silver not shown on the Football Cartophilic list (will have to check this)

Talk about milking the system!

Dorking .Eagle 31-10-2019 07:13 AM

Breakaway silver can also be called just Breakaway. It is basically like a 'Football 87' shiny sticker (ie sparkly) and incredibly similar to 'Hyper'

Ockleywood 02-11-2019 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14960768)
Breakaway silver can also be called just Breakaway. It is basically like a 'Football 87' shiny sticker (ie sparkly) and incredibly similar to 'Hyper'

Thanks for clarifying the Breakaway cards

Dorking .Eagle 02-11-2019 11:03 AM

No probs! Sorted all mine out into folder pockets now, got more than enough and certainly not buying any more!

JOHN1509 02-11-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 14963129)
No probs! Sorted all mine out into folder pockets now, got more than enough and certainly not buying any more!

Does that mean i get a chance to get a few i need from ebay now :supergrin:

Dorking .Eagle 02-11-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN1509 (Post 14963153)
Does that mean i get a chance to get a few i need from ebay now :supergrin:

I haven't bought any off ebay for the last 3 weeks :moo2:

Dorking .Eagle 10-12-2019 11:10 AM

Panini Premier League Football 2020 Sticker Collection - due out 9th January 2020. Wierdly, some listings have already started on ebay which suggests perhaps an earlier than expected release date?

Dorking .Eagle 11-12-2019 09:26 AM

Panini Sticker collection out tomorrow by all accounts.
Looks a lot more appealing than the weak offerings by Topps in recent years

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/

And looks like they are doing collector tins as well

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 11-01-2020 08:44 PM

I really like the new panini album. I prefer it having more stickers of the squad rather than just 10 or 11 as Topps did.

Only drawback of course is a lot more stickers makes collecting them a lot more expensive too.

Dorking .Eagle 11-01-2020 08:55 PM

I just sent off for the Palace ones to be honest. But agree, Panini are best at sticker collections (and imo Topps are best at cards). Unfortunately at any one time, only one of them can have the PL licence!

HRP 12-01-2020 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 15055708)
I really like the new panini album. I prefer it having more stickers of the squad rather than just 10 or 11 as Topps did.

Only drawback of course is a lot more stickers makes collecting them a lot more expensive too.

The panini collection is double the normal size this year

Dorking .Eagle 12-01-2020 10:35 AM

It's in the same sort of scale as when it was Panini Football 86 when I was a kid.

In those days, there were a team photo sticker and a shiny half sticker of the club badge

Plus half stickers of the Scottish Prem teams!

Does look nice though

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 14-01-2020 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRP (Post 15056562)
The panini collection is double the normal size this year

Yep, double what topps did.

JOHN1509 20-01-2020 05:15 PM

2019-20 Panini Obsidian Soccer
Panini America

Galaxy Gear..22. Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)purple/green/yellow red parallels
Volcanic..23. Gary Cahill (Crystal Palace) purple/orange yellow
Aurora(autograph)..12. Gary Cahill (Crystal Palace)
Jersey Autographs...5. Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)
Dual Jersey Ink..1. Gary Cahill (Crystal Palace)

Ockleywood 22-01-2020 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN1509 (Post 15069774)
2019-20 Panini Obsidian Soccer
Panini America

Galaxy Gear..22. Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)purple/green/yellow red parallels
Volcanic..23. Gary Cahill (Crystal Palace) purple/orange yellow
Aurora(autograph)..12. Gary Cahill (Crystal Palace)
Jersey Autographs...5. Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)
Dual Jersey Ink..1. Gary Cahill (Crystal Palace)

I wish both you and Dorking.Eagle all the best in obtaining them all

JOHN1509 22-01-2020 02:40 PM

Its another USA release, I might try for a couple . yet another expensive release

Dorking .Eagle 22-01-2020 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ockleywood (Post 15073883)
I wish both you and Dorking.Eagle all the best in obtaining them all

Will wait and see what they even look like first, essentially it's five cards of two players.

Benteke must have signed thousands of stickers for Panini, as he has featured in numerous series for years. And they've finally given Hennessey a rest from being featured. Maybe they are saving those for when he makes 100 caps for Wales!

JOHN1509 30-01-2020 05:43 PM

.https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SNcAA...lKi/s-l500.jpg

JOHN1509 04-02-2020 03:42 PM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JnkAA...aL/s-l1600.jpg

JOHN1509 04-02-2020 03:44 PM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/szUAA...WQ/s-l1600.jpg

JOHN1509 04-02-2020 05:11 PM

These new cards looks difficult to get and what ones out there are expensive, the postage the Americans are charging is a joke $20+ , ( shipping programme)

Dorking .Eagle 05-02-2020 11:34 AM

Some 'Euro 2020' themed stickers and cards:

Panini - Road to Euro 2020 sticker collection
416 Tosun
435 Hennessey

Panini - Road to UEFA Euro 2020 Adrenalyn XL Card collection
224 Tosun
226 Hennessey
351 Tosun

Panini - Adrenalyn XL Euro 2020 Cards
152 Sorloth
350 Tosun
371 Hennessey

School Shop - Euro 2020 stickers
Tosun
Milivojevic (354)
Benteke
McCarthy
Hennessey
(numbers not yet known, will post when I know it)

JOHN1509 25-02-2020 05:23 PM

Futera-World football unique 2020

FUTERA WORLD FOOTBALL UNIQUE 2020 Collection
Limited Release of only 250 cases worldwide
ON-CARD AUTOGRAPHS
GAME-USED MEMORABILIA
24ct GOLD PLATED FRAMED CARDS


With only 250 cases...I expect prices to be high

FUTERA '1 of 1' on-card signed Autograph cards
Only 1 card has been created for each player
668 cards
Zaha

ON-CARD SIGNED AUTOGRAPH SETS INCLUDE: * PITCHSIDE * SUPERSTARS* ARCHIVE * TRIUMPH
Each card states the date and place that the player signed the card.
All cards are individually foil-numbered with a unique security/data code.
The following Sets are limited to 35 or less on-card signatures per player.

TR-91..Zaha
PS-98..Zaha

Dorking .Eagle 25-02-2020 05:28 PM

The Futera Unique 2020 collection is simply vast, but then so much of it is 1/1 auto cards, which makes it a needle in a haystack exercise tbh

LEG40 Gareth Southgate
TN13 Southgate/Walker
CH18 Southgate (as a coach)
ZG07 Southgate
MYTH030 Edgar Davids
MYTH076 Atilio Lombardo
MYTH112 Gareth Southgate

1 on 1 cards (combos and autos)
Southgate
Allardyce
Jordan Ayew
Steve Bruce
Yohan Cabaye
Gary Cahill
Chung Yong Lee
Stan Collymore
Steve Coppell
Edgar Davids
Frank DeBoer
Mathieu Flamini
Jose Fonte
Mikael Forsell
Timothy Fosu-Mensah
Brede Hangeland
Hermann Hreidarsson
Sun Jihai
Gabor Kiraly
Joe Ledley
Loic Remy
Gareth Southgate
Terry Venables
Ray Wilkins
Ian Wright
Wilfried Zaha

TR07 Christian Benteke
TR45 Cheikhou Kouyate
TR58 Luka Milivojevic
TR67 Jairo Riedewald
TR85 Patrick Van Aanholt
TR91 Wilfried Zaha

PS82 Mamadou Sakho
PS95 Aaron Wan Bissaka
PS98 Wilfried Zaha

TRA02 Michy Batshuayi
SSA21 James McCarthy

JOHN1509 26-02-2020 11:24 AM

Cheers for the full break down, A lot too look out for

Dorking .Eagle 04-03-2020 09:46 PM

For me, I feel that Futera cards are a bit 'take it or leave it'. They don't have the EPL licence, so although I don't doubt they are genuine autos and jerseys, they feel like fakes to me. It's almost as if they are just a cards division of some sort of mass autograph collecting operation.

Panini Impeccable on the way mid April. All 20 EPL clubs featured apparently, but with a presale price tag of $599 for an 8 card box, it sounds absolutely barmy to me!

Dorking .Eagle 17-03-2020 07:55 PM

Haven't seen any Futera unique 2020 cards yet. Has the series been shelved?

JOHN1509 17-03-2020 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15141631)
Haven't seen any Futera unique 2020 cards yet. Has the series been shelved?

Did read some where that it's coming in late March

Dorking .Eagle 17-03-2020 08:30 PM

Thanks John

JOHN1509 18-03-2020 10:56 AM

How you getting on with the Obsidian cards ?, I managed to get a few of the parallels,

Dorking .Eagle 18-03-2020 06:49 PM

Got all five of them, not bothered about parallels for these.

Would imagine that the Adrenalyn XL cards will have an 'update' set very soon (with January signings etc).

Dorking .Eagle 27-03-2020 07:58 AM

Hi John
Just seen that a Benteke Prizm color blast went for $90. Don't think I will ever get that card!
Any news on Adrenalyn XL extra cards, the Panini Stickers 'update' set, Futera Unique?
Has the virus put a global kybosh on new cards and stickers?

JOHN1509 27-03-2020 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15154859)
Hi John
Just seen that a Benteke Prizm color blast went for $90. Don't think I will ever get that card!
Any news on Adrenalyn XL extra cards, the Panini Stickers 'update' set, Futera Unique?
Has the virus put a global kybosh on new cards and stickers?

Saw that color blast card, even at the went for price, still out of my price league ,

Only news that i know about the above collections..Panini has issued a coming very soon advert on the update stickers

Dorking .Eagle 27-03-2020 05:14 PM

Thanks.

Dorking .Eagle 21-04-2020 01:35 PM

Looks like the Panini Football 2020 'update' set of 48 (stickers) are imminent to be released

JOHN1509 28-04-2020 06:38 PM

Never heard of these before ,
Manchester Utd v Crystal Palace Victory cards 2004/2005

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...kgRabD365MRoBg

MU10-04. Manchester United 2-0 Crystal Palace (Football League Cup)
MU17-04. Manchester United 5-2 Crystal Palace

Dorking .Eagle 28-04-2020 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN1509 (Post 15202102)
Never heard of these before ,
Manchester Utd v Crystal Palace Victory cards 2004/2005

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...kgRabD365MRoBg

MU10-04. Manchester United 2-0 Crystal Palace (Football League Cup)
MU17-04. Manchester United 5-2 Crystal Palace


Yep, seen them before. Basically they are like result cards whenever the 'big club' won a game. So every one that exists featuring Palace will be a Palace defeat!

I think Arsenal and Liverpool did them, as well as Ipswich (!)


EDIT - go onto ebay.co.uk and search for 'Victory Card Palace' and you'll see all sorts of defeats for Palace commemorated with a special dodgy franked stamp, against Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United and Ipswich Town!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...alace&_sacat=0

JOHN1509 29-04-2020 09:21 AM

Thank you, i didn't know any thing about these, just brought one of each now what was listed, Is there any check lists any where ?

JOHN1509 29-04-2020 04:54 PM

Panini 2020 update

U15 Pierrick Keutcha
U16 Cenk Tosun

Dorking .Eagle 03-05-2020 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN1509 (Post 15203695)
Panini 2020 update

U15 Pierrick Keutcha
U16 Cenk Tosun

I don't remember the signing of Keutcha at all. Has my memory of early 2020 been erased?!!

Ockleywood 03-05-2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15209491)
I don't remember the signing of Keutcha at all. Has my memory of early 2020 been erased?!!

Better known as Brandon Pierrick, came on as sub at Norwich New Year Day. Appears he does not use Keutcha

Do not worry your memory is fine, look out as next question on Palace quiz!!

Dorking .Eagle 03-05-2020 03:40 PM

Thank you! Thought I was going mad!

JOHN1509 05-05-2020 07:31 PM

2020 Futera PITCHSIDE WILFRIED ZAHA AUTO

The only Palace player i've seen so far from this collection

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Fb0AA...nP/s-l1600.jpg

Dorking .Eagle 05-05-2020 07:36 PM

It's a nice card. I like that he signs autographs a bit like Zorro!

Dorking .Eagle 06-05-2020 03:52 PM

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Kouyate /5 from Futera Unique 2020

Attachment 53607

Attachment 53608

Dorking .Eagle 06-05-2020 03:59 PM

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Tosun /10

Attachment 53610

JOHN1509 07-05-2020 08:35 PM

Nice cards, These cards, take it our players are in their international kits , not cpfc colours ?

Dorking .Eagle 07-05-2020 08:47 PM

Yep, Futera = international kits, only Panini have the Premier League licence to use Palace kits.

Topps can feature those Premier League clubs that are in UEFA competitions (ie for Champions League match attax products)

JOHN1509 04-06-2020 07:29 PM

Seen these before ?

Zaha

https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...c8&oe=5EFD90A1

Dorking .Eagle 04-06-2020 08:46 PM

Not seen those before john

JOHN1509 02-07-2020 05:24 AM

Panini - 2019-20 Panini Chronicles Soccer

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...es-soccer.html

Dorking .Eagle 02-07-2020 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN1509 (Post 15283811)
Panini - 2019-20 Panini Chronicles Soccer

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...es-soccer.html

Crikey, what a collection, bit of everything in there! Luckily, quite modest from a Palace collecting POV, but they've even chucked in a couple of new Prism cards - was the last lot not enough!!

The core of our squad is so old, we don't have any 'rookies'!!

Personally, I was still holding out that me might see the Impeccable collection at some point, but who knows!

Dorking .Eagle 03-07-2020 01:52 PM

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Onto real cards, not this modern stuff, and I filled a longstanding gap this week. Have had this one as a saved search on ebay for 20 years.

Attachment 53845


I have long been on the hunt for 'F167' and I have only ever seen it surface once before, when it sold for a very high price.

The reason it went for so much the one previous time I saw it is the subject matter - it is Manchester United v Crystal Palace, from the days when Man Utd were a 2nd division team, and anything of this age featuring United goes for way more than it would normally otherwise

Luckily (for me) in this instance it was a 'Buy it now' and I got there before anyone else.

The card is a Pattreiouex 1922 'Casket' cigarette card by the way
.

JOHN1509 03-07-2020 03:17 PM

Congrats, I've so may missing gaps in the older selection like the card above, But also, i tend to forget to search them down

Dorking .Eagle 09-07-2020 10:13 AM

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Panini Impeccable scheduled 30th July

Panini Chronicles just out, my contact in China has only seen these 2 Palace cards so far:

Attachment 53866

Dorking .Eagle 09-07-2020 10:23 AM

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Some of the Chronicles cards are just stupid really

Take this card

Attachment 53867

It's a 5/5 and the seller is asking $179

So say you were to haggle it to $100, there is still $15 postage, plus probably $30 customs on top

It is ridiculous having /5 and 1/1 cards that aren't auto's or (multi) relics (or auto'd relics!) IMO

You'd have to be on Benteke's salary to collect such cards! It's gone stupid, it really has.

Unless you actually buy cases as a dealer or get lucky in breaks then you aren't going to get anything like this!

Dorking .Eagle 09-07-2020 09:09 PM

Some joker is hoping for $60 for a /99 prism from this new series (and that's before $18 shipping!). Overpriced by only about $55!

There are cards for 99 cents, but with $20+ postage!

Really is a pain that these collections are aimed at the U.S. market!

JOHN1509 10-07-2020 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15295192)
Some joker is hoping for $60 for a /99 prism from this new series (and that's before $18 shipping!). Overpriced by only about $55!

There are cards for 99 cents, but with $20+ postage!

Really is a pain that these collections are aimed at the U.S. market!

Yep, seen them cheap also at 99 cents, but postage is a non starter :(

Dorking .Eagle 10-07-2020 09:18 PM

Pretty much everything sold from the US is $20+ postage.

Bring on the Hong Kong sellers in about a weeks time, $6 postage standard and often sell in bundles.

Ockleywood 10-07-2020 11:12 PM

I wish John and Dorking the best of luck in obtaining the cards you want. To me, is it worth the effort?

JOHN1509 11-07-2020 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ockleywood (Post 15296071)
I wish John and Dorking the best of luck in obtaining the cards you want. To me, is it worth the effort?

Cheers :) Just wish i had a good person i knew in the US that could get them for me, as the US postage is cheap

Dorking .Eagle 11-07-2020 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ockleywood (Post 15296071)
I wish John and Dorking the best of luck in obtaining the cards you want. To me, is it worth the effort?

It's like modern day stamp collecting. Nothing produced now is truly rare, but some collectors still want to have everything new, to keep their collection ' complete' (or at least complete against their own personal criteria)

All collecting is in some way pointless. Sometimes the sum of the parts is still satisfying, even if some of the parts are less desirable than others

When Palace go up to the top flight, the breadth of collections available is on a vastly different scale to that in the 2nd tier(bordering on nothing these days).I take the view it's only for one season, and collect all that I can. Successive top flight seasons is a huge bonus. This 7 (now 8) season run is unprecedented. I never take it for granted and savour everything - when it comes to an end it could be for many years again.

Sometimes the difficulty in getting it all makes you appreciate the hard to get items a bit more too

Dorking .Eagle 19-07-2020 07:20 PM

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Benteke

Fodboldfest (Denmark issue)

Attachment 53890

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...dboldfest.html

JOHN1509 19-07-2020 08:38 PM

Nice, just need too hunt a couple down :p

Edit...Think i might tracked some down :)

Dorking .Eagle 20-07-2020 08:52 AM

Chronicles isn't too bad when you break it down - basically it is 10 base cards (the Donruss ones), and the 'shiny' red versions are as easy to find as the plain base versions; and a 6 'specials' which are like inserts.

The only ones I haven't even seen are the Benteke auto and the two jersey cards, but I'm in no great rush. The majority online are US based, so postage is the only real issue, but there's no need to worry, and in time they will become very easy once the Australian and far east sellers get into it

Not long and Impeccable will be out

JOHN1509 20-07-2020 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15311674)
Chronicles isn't too bad when you break it down - basically it is 10 base cards (the Donruss ones), and the 'shiny' red versions are as easy to find as the plain base versions; and a 6 'specials' which are like inserts.

The only ones I haven't even seen are the Benteke auto and the two jersey cards, but I'm in no great rush. The majority online are US based, so postage is the only real issue, but there's no need to worry, and in time they will become very easy once the Australian and far east sellers get into it

Not long and Impeccable will be out

Had a good haul short while back from a US seller, postage was only $14, managed to get a few base, 6x red, couple blues & green and 3x gold, Cahill prizm base,

The Benteke Titan cards are expensive on the couple i've seen, The Benteke Signature card is a platinum 1/1 as far as i know ?

Regarding the Jersey cards, Thats a new one on me , looked at the list and didn't see his name on a jersey issue

Once again, all i know what are issued,
Base-Orange-Purple-red/99-Blue/75-Green/50-Gold/25-Black/1

Dorking .Eagle 20-07-2020 05:11 PM

Benteke auto - yes I think you are right - checklist suggests it's a 1/1 (will forget that then!!)

Jersey cards - aka 'Treble threads' - definitely Benteke and Hennessey, standard checklist and checklist by club list both:

10. Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)
11. Wayne Hennessey (Crystal Palace)

My man in Beijing is on the case lol

JOHN1509 20-07-2020 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15312268)
Benteke auto - yes I think you are right - checklist suggests it's a 1/1 (will forget that then!!)

Jersey cards - aka 'Treble threads' - definitely Benteke and Hennessey, standard checklist and checklist by club list both:

10. Christian Benteke (Crystal Palace)
11. Wayne Hennessey (Crystal Palace)

My man in Beijing is on the case lol

Bungger lol, no wonder i didn't see that benteke/Hennessey, they were listed up "La Liga " on the following site
See if you Beijing man could get spares lol :)

https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogsp...es-soccer.html

Dorking .Eagle 20-07-2020 07:47 PM

Also doesn't help that a Hennessey is a make of car in the USA! So unless you refine the search on ebay.com, you get a vehicle search form!

JOHN1509 22-07-2020 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15311167)

Are you after one of these ?, i have some on route too me :)

Dorking .Eagle 22-07-2020 09:40 PM

No, I've already got it thanks

Dorking .Eagle 24-07-2020 11:12 AM

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Some purple parallels - apparently these are exclusive in boxes sold in China only

Attachment 53901

JOHN1509 24-07-2020 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15318872)
Some purple parallels - apparently these are exclusive in boxes sold in China only

Attachment 53901

Seen the cards sold by UK sellers now, Quite a difference in price between sellers,Regarding the purple parallels, thanks for the info, Be interesting too see what sort of prices they go for

JOHN1509 28-07-2020 07:34 PM

Benteke Colour blast listed on ebay 775 !!!!:eek::eek::eek:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2019-20-P...cAAOSwCntfH8kq

Dorking .Eagle 28-07-2020 08:02 PM

LOL

It's a nice card, don't get me wrong, but it's not a jersey or an auto, nor a 1/1, and he doesn't play for Liverpool anymore!!

I can't see the point of paying much more than a tenner for a regular color blast, if that means a gap in my collection so be it.

Dorking .Eagle 29-07-2020 11:24 AM

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Impeccable are available. Usual game.

This is what my friend in Chana pulled out

Attachment 53923

JOHN1509 29-07-2020 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 15326171)
Impeccable are available. Usual game.

This is what my friend in Chana pulled out

Attachment 53923

No doubt cards will be very expensive

No Palace base cards ??

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...nchor_1_325453


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