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TonbridgeEagle 17-05-2010 10:33 PM

4G can't arrive soon enough for me as my 3G is starting to play up. I'm not overly fussed as my contract expired months ago, so I'm on O2 rolling 20pm contract until 4G is released. Trouble is, every now and then the message "No sim installed" flashes up meaning I have to restart the phone a few times before I can make any calls. Damn thing has a tendancy to happen when I need the phone the most.

BulletEagle 18-05-2010 11:31 PM

When should iPhone OS 4.0 be released?

Scrumpy 18-05-2010 11:53 PM

Summer at some point

Blind_Eagle 20-05-2010 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoz
The original iphone was released in the summer of 2007, it was updated to the 3g in the summer of 2008, the 3gs came out in summer 2009. Can you see a pattern emerging here?

Sounds plausable. Except the original iPhone was launched in November 2007. ;)

James 20-05-2010 07:53 AM

May I steer this thread back to an old topic?

I know that many IPhone/Ipod Touch users have decided against jailbreaking because of the complications, and the fact that the latest firmware prevented many of the old methods from being used. Additionally, some of the more simple solutions, such as Blackra1n, required a tethered boot following any shutdown.

However, a few weeks ago a new solution emerged in the form of SPIRIT. This is an incredibly easy piece of software to use - all you need to do is connect your IPhone and run the programme. It takes only a few seconds, following which you have a Jailbroken IPhone ready to utilise all the brilliant applications available in the Cydia store. It works on all versions of the IPhone - including the 3gs - and apparently it also works with the new IPad.

You need to be running fairly up to date official firmware to use SPIRIT and - for the time being - unlocking is NOT available using this utility.

If you haven't yet Jailbroken your IPhone - what are you waiting for?

st albans 20-05-2010 08:21 AM

Please tell me what the point of jailbreaking is?? Apart from changing the background, I haven't seen a better app via cydia

Dave 20-05-2010 08:41 AM

Quote:

If you haven't yet Jailbroken your IPhone - what are you waiting for?
jailbreaking is pointless you end up with a slow phone that apple can lock out at any time.

I'd be more interested in an entirely new Os.

JamTheEagle 20-05-2010 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st albans
Please tell me what the point of jailbreaking is?? Apart from changing the background, I haven't seen a better app via cydia

Installous - a free app store.

James 20-05-2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
jailbreaking is pointless you end up with a slow phone that apple can lock out at any time.

I'd be more interested in an entirely new Os.

It's amazing to see how wrong one person can be.

Jailbreaking does not slow your IPhone at all. It's also a complete fallacy to suggest that Apple can lock out at any time. First they have no way of knowing that your IPhone is jailbroken and secondly, the process is completely reversible. You can restore your IPhone at any time removing all trace of the jailbreak. There have been scare stories for a while, and Apple did lock out a couple of known developers, but there is no way that Apple would target possibly hundreds of thousands of its users throughout the World. Yes, Apple will continue to fight the jailbreakers by changing the offcial firmware - but they will not lock out any casual user.

If you do not jailbreak your IPhone, you are only able to use it for a very small fraction of its potential. There are hundreds of free applications available through Cydia (as well as a number of truly excellent paid-for applications) which you wouldn't want to be without once you have installed them. Examples include 'Backgrounder' which allow you to run applications in the background, whilst using other applications - so you could listen to Internet radio while playing a game. There is a tethering application, which easily allows you to use your IPhone 3g Internet connection on a laptop. Best of all is an application which 'fools' the IPhone to believe it has a WiFi connection, when it is really using the 3g connection, so you can use Skype on the move as well as watch SKY TV and ordinary TV over 3g.

Ironically, I originally decided to jailbreak my IPhone having persuaded to do so by Dave. That was over 2 years ago, and I haven't regretted it at all.

EagleinOz 20-05-2010 01:35 PM

Out of interest is it legal to jailbreak your iPhone? Also is it possible to jailbreak an iPod touch and would this be worth it- ie many more workable apps?

Heb 7:4 20-05-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleinOz
Out of interest is it legal to jailbreak your iPhone? Also is it possible to jailbreak an iPod touch and would this be worth it- ie many more workable apps?

It's completely legal, though then downloading pirated apps is not.

It does invalidate your warrenty though

For me, the main use is being able to listen to last fm while using other apps. I've also used installous to download lots of apps of the same type in order to test them, before purchasing the best one from the app store (for example I downloaded Todo, Things, Toodledo, and others when I wanted a decent task list, before buying Toodledo as it was the one I liked best. Buying them all separately would have been expensive)

With Jailbreaking you can also put apps into folders (Games, News, etc) though as this should be in the next OS anyway I wouldn't worry about jailbreaking for this.

Dave 20-05-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James
It's amazing to see how wrong one person can be.

Jailbreaking does not slow your IPhone at all. It's also a complete fallacy to suggest that Apple can lock out at any time. First they have no way of knowing that your IPhone is jailbroken and secondly, the process is completely reversible. You can restore your IPhone at any time removing all trace of the jailbreak. There have been scare stories for a while, and Apple did lock out a couple of known developers, but there is no way that Apple would target possibly hundreds of thousands of its users throughout the World. Yes, Apple will continue to fight the jailbreakers by changing the offcial firmware - but they will not lock out any casual user.

If you do not jailbreak your IPhone, you are only able to use it for a very small fraction of its potential. There are hundreds of free applications available through Cydia (as well as a number of truly excellent paid-for applications) which you wouldn't want to be without once you have installed them. Examples include 'Backgrounder' which allow you to run applications in the background, whilst using other applications - so you could listen to Internet radio while playing a game. There is a tethering application, which easily allows you to use your IPhone 3g Internet connection on a laptop. Best of all is an application which 'fools' the IPhone to believe it has a WiFi connection, when it is really using the 3g connection, so you can use Skype on the move as well as watch SKY TV and ordinary TV over 3g.

Ironically, I originally decided to jailbreak my IPhone having persuaded to do so by Dave. That was over 2 years ago, and I haven't regretted it at all.

Apple can block access to the app store for jailbroken phones, there is also a kill switch for all iphones.

As for the jailbroken phones being slower, that is my understanding.

Blind_Eagle 20-05-2010 03:01 PM

Note to James. Sky TV has worked over 3g network for months on a standard iPhone.

James 20-05-2010 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle
Note to James. Sky TV has worked over 3g network for months on a standard iPhone.

Yes, I did know that in fact. My message was careless.

For some reason my Slingbox still does not work over 3g, without the application. God knows why. You also need it for Skype over 3g of course.

Brett 22-05-2010 08:25 PM

People who pirate apps should be made to walk the plank.

Travelcard 22-05-2010 09:21 PM

I've Jailbroken my 3Gs for one reason only, to get my upcoming appointments on the lock-screen.

Reminders are useless.

JamTheEagle 23-05-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Apple can block access to the app store for jailbroken phones, there is also a kill switch for all iphones.

As for the jailbroken phones being slower, that is my understanding.

I run a 3G and its the same speed if not slightly quicker as I have most of the bloat like SSH turned off. Also in SB Settings you can turn off the Apple kill switch - whether this works or not I'm not sure.

CPFC Cheerleader Observer 25-05-2010 08:46 AM

So, if all rumours are to be true, June 7th WWDC. Steve Jobs will announce the new iPhone

Dave 25-05-2010 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamTheEagle
I run a 3G and its the same speed if not slightly quicker as I have most of the bloat like SSH turned off. Also in SB Settings you can turn off the Apple kill switch - whether this works or not I'm not sure.

ssh bloat, classic

Swanny32 03-06-2010 12:58 AM

Is anyone around to give me a hand? I think I broke my iPhone trying to jailbreak it.


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