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Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:17 PM

Music Books
 
I don't know if we're had a thread on this, but what about music books?
I have rather a large collection of them. Anyone else?
Recommendations?

El Aguila 15-07-2020 05:24 PM

You mean sheet music? Or books about etc?

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:26 PM

What the feckless dago ponce said.

Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:27 PM

Books about bands, genres etc.

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:30 PM

Bob Stanley - Yeah Yeah Yeah is a terrific book about pop music which I and others have wanged on about quite a bit on here.

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:31 PM

Simon Napier Bell's books are jolly entertaining if not necessarily well-written/100% true. I'll need to have a look at the bookshelves to see which ones of his I own.

Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:32 PM

Just bought a few of the 33 1/3 series on Television, Tom Waits and Can. Gather they're a bit variable - some good reads and some a bit dryly academic.

Just about the only book on Television I've ever found is 'Sonic Transmission', which is so-so.

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:33 PM

Lloyd Bradley - Sounds Like London: 100 Years of Black Music in the Capital does what it says on the tin as does his Bass Culture: When Reggae Was King.

El Aguila 15-07-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15304368)
Simon Napier Bell's books are jolly entertaining if not necessarily well-written/100% true. I'll need to have a look at the bookshelves to see which ones of his I own.

Good call. I have two, they are very amusing. Dee Dee Ramone’s book is very good, too.

Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:35 PM

Tony Fletcher's Bunnymen book, 'Never Stop', is entertaining, and Julian Cope's autobiographical stuff is hilarious.

Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:38 PM

Serge Gainsbourg: A Fistful Of Gitanes: Sylvie Simmons

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:38 PM

Louis Barfe - Where Have All the Good Times Gone?: The Rise and Fall of the Record Industry - I would for the first time ever be interested to hear El Ag's opinion on this.

edit - His Turned Out Nice Again about British light entertainment is also terric

El Aguila 15-07-2020 05:41 PM

Jon Savage’s “Teenage” is erudite and witty. My two favourites this year were about or by drums and drummers, Mike Edison’s gonzo biog of Charlie Watts, Sympathy for the Drummer, and Paul Hanley’s book Have a Bleeding Guess, about doing his O Levels and recording Hex Enduction Hour while touring the world with the Fall in 1982.

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15304373)
Good call. I have two, they are very amusing. Dee Dee Ramone’s book is very good, too.

Just checked and the ones I have are Black Vinyl, White Powder and Ta-Ra-Ra-BOOM-De-Ay. He is a rascal.

I enjoyed Mötley Crüe's The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band when it came out but suspect I would feel a bit icky reading it now.

El Aguila 15-07-2020 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellavista (Post 15304374)
Tony Fletcher's Bunnymen book, 'Never Stop', is entertaining, and Julian Cope's autobiographical stuff is hilarious.

Do you know Tony, btw? He’s been on here a few times.

Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15304386)
Do you know Tony, btw? He’s been on here a few times.

I messaged someone here who I thought was him, but claimed not to be the same person!
I met him on an Ian McCulloch tour in 1989/90.

Stellavista 15-07-2020 05:51 PM

Luke Haines' 'Bad Vibes'.

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:51 PM

Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton's Last Night a DJ Saved my Life: The History of the Disc Jockey and The Record Players: The Story of Dance Music Told by History’s Greatest DJs are terrific if you like that sort of thing, although the latter contains traces of Savile.

west country boy 15-07-2020 05:56 PM

Sylvia Patterson's I'm Not With the Band is an absolutely smashing book about life in music journalism. Mark Ellen's Rock Stars Ruined My Life! is not. It is shit.

El Aguila 15-07-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellavista (Post 15304393)
I messaged someone here who I thought was him, but claimed not to be the same person!
I met him on an Ian McCulloch tour in 1989/90.

I think he called himself Illeagle Alien on here.

El Aguila 15-07-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15304406)
Sylvia Patterson's I'm Not With the Band is an absolutely smashing book about life in music journalism. Mark Ellen's Rock Stars Ruined My Life! is not. It is shit.

Oh yeah. Sylvia’s book is great. Mingus’s autobiography is something else, too.

TAK 15-07-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15304396)
Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton's Last Night a DJ Saved my Life: The History of the Disc Jockey and The Record Players: The Story of Dance Music Told by History’s Greatest DJs are terrific if you like that sort of thing, although the latter contains traces of Savile.

It's great book. I used to know Bill Brewster back in the day, he also worked on the early versions of WSC.

I was recommended Redemption Song about Joe Strummer yesterday. Anyone read it?

El Aguila 15-07-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15304385)
Just checked and the ones I have are Black Vinyl, White Noise and Ta-Ra-Ra-BOOM-De-Ay. He is a rascal.

I enjoyed Mötley Crüe's The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band when it came out but suspect I would feel a bit icky reading it now.

I have Black Vinyl, White Powder - are these two different books, or did I get a special version for by music execs?

El Aguila 15-07-2020 06:04 PM

Cowboys and Indies is good on the business side.

Dal 15-07-2020 06:04 PM

Simon Armitage, Gig

Roy Wilkinson, Do it for your Mum

Stellavista 15-07-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15304417)
Cowboys and Indies is good on the business side.

Will check that out.

west country boy 15-07-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15304416)
I have Black Vinyl, White Powder - are these two different books, or did I get a special version for by music execs?

Ha! No - it is my memory failing me between bookshelf and laptop. Perhaps I was thinking of that not very good Bowie record?

SJ'sLoveMonkey 15-07-2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15304396)
Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton's Last Night a DJ Saved my Life: The History of the Disc Jockey and The Record Players: The Story of Dance Music Told by History’s Greatest DJs are terrific if you like that sort of thing, although the latter contains traces of Savile.

Both brilliant books :p

SJ'sLoveMonkey 15-07-2020 06:29 PM

My Life and The Paradise Garage by the late Mel Cheren is a good read as well

Stellavista 15-07-2020 07:20 PM

David Sheppard
On Some Faraway Beach: The Life and Times of Brian Eno

west country boy 15-07-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TAK (Post 15304415)
It's great book. I used to know Bill Brewster back in the day, he also worked on the early versions of WSC.

I dunno if I'm more impressed that you used to know Brewster or that he was part of When Saturday Comes.

TAK 15-07-2020 08:25 PM

Grimsby fan.

weltklasse 16-07-2020 07:03 PM

Crosstown Traffic: Jimi Hendrix and postwar pop - Charles Shaar Murray

weltklasse 16-07-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TAK (Post 15304415)
It's great book. I used to know Bill Brewster back in the day, he also worked on the early versions of WSC.

I was recommended Redemption Song about Joe Strummer yesterday. Anyone read it?

Yep its not bad.

Stellavista 17-07-2020 10:18 AM

Guitar Zero - Gary Marcus

Stellavista 17-07-2020 10:19 AM

Jacques Brel -- The Biography by Alan Clayson

Tomo 17-07-2020 10:45 AM

Meet Me In The Bathroom, about the New York music scene in the early 00's was really good.
Mike Skinner's autobiography is a favourite, but I struggled a bit with the audiobook version (even though I read the book twice).
How Not To Run a Night, Peter Hook. About the Hacienda club in Manchesters.
Sylvia Patterson was good too. I'm sure there are a few more but those were the ones that immediately stuck out.

chatham_eagle 17-07-2020 10:48 AM

Cash: The Autobiography is one of the most depressing things I've ever read.

El Aguila 17-07-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 15307467)
Meet Me In The Bathroom, about the New York music scene in the early 00's was really good.

I believe my company makes a fleeting appearance in that book, are Vampire Weekend in it?
We also feature more extensively in Dean Wareham's Black Postcards, which is well worth a read, Dean is a genuinely talented writer.

kabbott 17-07-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15304386)
Do you know Tony, btw? He’s been on here a few times.

:I used to go to Palace games with Tony and some other mates in the late 70s, then I went to "uni" and we lost touch. I ended up in France and he in NY, I believe.

El Aguila 17-07-2020 11:55 AM

He’s in upstate New York. There’s a good biography about those days, 70s Palace and Jamming fanzine, “Boy About Town”. You might be in it!

El Aguila 17-07-2020 11:56 AM

Boy About Town: A Memoir by Tony Fletcher (2013-09-23) https://www.amazon.es/dp/B00FK8R9TC/..._YoyeFbYEC1D3C

west country boy 17-07-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15307588)
Boy About Town: A Memoir by Tony Fletcher (2013-09-23) https://www.amazon.es/dp/B00FK8R9TC/..._YoyeFbYEC1D3C

For BBSers who are not on the lam in the Costa del Crime: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Boy-About-T.../dp/0434021679

west country boy 17-07-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 15307467)
How Not To Run a Night, Peter Hook. About the Hacienda club in Manchester.

Yeah, that's a terrific book. I lent my copy to a chum of Pidster's and unsurprisingly I've never had it back.

I got halfway through Hook's Substance but gave up for some reason, so I'll have to give it another go.

Tomo 17-07-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15307495)
I believe my company makes a fleeting appearance in that book, are Vampire Weekend in it?
We also feature more extensively in Dean Wareham's Black Postcards, which is well worth a read, Dean is a genuinely talented writer.

I forget who it is your company is?

Yeah they are... the book is all about the excess, of sex and drugs of New York, and then it get's to Vampire Week and it's just about how focused they were on being successful!

Tomo 17-07-2020 12:49 PM

Touching from a distance by Ian Curtis' wife is another that I loved, and what the film Control was based on.

Tomo 17-07-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15307606)
Yeah, that's a terrific book. I lent my copy to a chum of Pidster's and unsurprisingly I've never had it back.

I got halfway through Hook's Substance but gave up for some reason, so I'll have to give it another go.

I think I might have done similar. Couldn't get into it at all.

west country boy 17-07-2020 01:01 PM

It is very, very long.

Maidstoned Eagle 17-07-2020 01:10 PM

The 2 part biography of Sinatra is excellent
Bruce Springsteens recent memoirs are great too.

Both perfect books to read whilst turning pink and pretending you are hiding out on the Costas after being one of the 3,000 people involved in the Brinks Mat robbery.

Jim Cannon 17-07-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellavista (Post 15304374)
Julian Cope's autobiographical stuff is hilarious.

Head On was brilliant about his time with Teardrop Explodes. Just love his stories about the US tour and Gary Dwyer's antics. Hilarious

The Norwoodsman 17-07-2020 01:32 PM

I enjoyed Ben Folds' autobiography A Dream About Lightning Bugs.

It definitely didn't take itself too seriously and he was quite refreshingly honest about the times he has been a dick, especially to the women in his life.

weltklasse 17-07-2020 01:35 PM

Barefoot in Babylon was interesting

Stellavista 18-07-2020 02:57 PM

Unfaithful Music and Disappearing Ink - Elvis Costello

weltklasse 19-07-2020 10:33 AM

i read Steve Jones - Lonley Boy recently its mildly amusing.

JJ 19-07-2020 11:34 AM

I really enjoyed reading Life by Keith Richards, and Ozzy by Ozzy Osbourne which was laugh out loud funny in parts.

Stellavista 20-07-2020 04:42 PM

No-one Here Gets Out Alive - The Doors

radiomike 20-07-2020 05:17 PM

ditto on no-onehere gets out alive
Also Dear Boy - the life of Keith Moon - heard 'happy jack' the other day , Moon's drumming at its craziest reflecting his life.

El Aguila 20-07-2020 05:45 PM

I remember being very taken indeed with Up-Tight, the story of the Velevet Underground, when I was 18. But I was the kind of 18 year old who would be impressed by anything about the Velevet Underground. Little Richard, Quasar of Rock was the same.

sunshine lucas 20-07-2020 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Cannon (Post 15307738)
Head On was brilliant about his time with Teardrop Explodes. Just love his stories about the US tour and Gary Dwyer's antics. Hilarious

Yep love the Julian Cope books... so funny...

hilairehair 20-07-2020 06:08 PM

David Cavanagh's My Magpie Eyes are Hungry for the Prize is good for the rise/failure of the indies through the 80s. I really like Lipstick Traces,but can see it would be a bit marmite. The Luke Haines books on Britpop are very entertaining, partly because he is so bitchy about everyone. David Stubbs' stuff on krautrock is good, and Simon Reynolds' Bring the Noise and Retromania. I've never really warmed to that big Bob Stanley book, although I dip into it from time to time.

Crofty 20-07-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellavista (Post 15309553)
Unfaithful Music and Disappearing Ink - Elvis Costello

Is Excellent!:p

daz_eagle 04-08-2020 07:54 AM

You bitch

Louis 04-08-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 15307467)
How Not To Run a Night, Peter Hook. About the Hacienda club in Manchesters.

:p

Added to my wishlist

Tim of the 80's 11-08-2020 02:43 PM

Guy Peelleart / Nik Cohn's art book Rock Dreams is a fantastic thing. If you've not seen it, it's an art book with snippets of text where various singers, bands etc are mostly shown in imaginings of their songs or personas - The Drifters are under the boardwalk, Rod Stewart is a hooligan, etc. I had it in the late 70's only to find my younger brother had taken it apart and used it as posters. Fortunately it was reissued by Taschen.

TAK 11-08-2020 07:02 PM

Is there a good biography of Gil Scott Heron?

I've not found one when I've looked in the past. There's a real story there to be told in depth.

El Aguila 11-08-2020 07:35 PM

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I've found this?

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El Aguila 11-08-2020 07:39 PM

It's a scottish heron. Best I could do at short notice.

Stellavista 12-08-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15345349)
It's a scottish heron. Best I could do at short notice.

Heroic effort.

Stellavista 14-08-2020 06:11 PM

Just starting the Jon Savage book on Joy Division. Decent pedigree, so will see.

El Aguila 14-08-2020 06:14 PM

I enjoyed it immensely. Summers comes across as a bit of a tool.

west country boy 14-08-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15345349)
It's a scottish heron. Best I could do at short notice.

How is that Scottish?

El Aguila 14-08-2020 07:00 PM

It’s not.

Stellavista 14-08-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15349138)
I enjoyed it immensely. Summers comes across as a bit of a tool.

He certainly does in his own book, which is dreadful. No self-awareness whatsoever.


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