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Isle of Wight 28-10-2017 09:23 AM

Wow. What an earth does a £1000 phone do that can justify that spend?

cpfc4evandeva 28-10-2017 10:12 AM

I'm not sure either, but I can understand if you have a healthy bank account that a few hundred more than last time is probably not a big issue...

However, I know of two guys at my work who both live with their parents/in-laws because they can't afford to buy a house, and they are getting this phone. That I just cannot understand.

Adlerhorst 28-10-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 13915506)
I'm not sure either, but I can understand if you have a healthy bank account that a few hundred more than last time is probably not a big issue...

However, I know of two guys at my work who both live with their parents/in-laws because they can't afford to buy a house, and they are getting this phone. That I just cannot understand.

Concur. That is the action of a complete and utter moron.

Hedgehog 28-10-2017 11:23 PM

Anyone else have trouble e-mailing a photo direct from the photos library?

All appears to go fine, but the e-mails never arrive at the intended recipient.

Odd thing is, if I create an e-mail in Mail, and add the same photo as an attachment/insert it works just fine.

Hedgehog 28-10-2017 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 13915506)
I'm not sure either, but I can understand if you have a healthy bank account that a few hundred more than last time is probably not a big issue...

However, I know of two guys at my work who both live with their parents/in-laws because they can't afford to buy a house, and they are getting this phone. That I just cannot understand.

This sounds like a new thread topic for Peter H.

Steve in Phoenix 29-10-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 13915447)
Wow. What an earth does a £1000 phone do that can justify that spend?


Use it for three years and that's a pound a day. Similar to a sky subscription except you'll probably use it a heck of a lot more.

Isle of Wight 29-10-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Phoenix (Post 13918230)
Use it for three years and that's a pound a day. Similar to a sky subscription except you'll probably use it a heck of a lot more.

But that's not the same. You can do all roughy the same on a phone at half the price £1000 for what ? "It looks cool" ? "It recognises my face" ?
Sky is unique you can't get its content elsewhere you can get the phone features elsewhere.

Adlerhorst 29-10-2017 11:34 AM

Except that’s not true, is it.

This phone lives and dies on the facial recognition. This isn’t the same as iris scanning, it’s streets ahead. It potentially allows the phone to do different things that iris scanning does not. It’s potentially a game changer in terms of how we use phones, which is somewhat different to something like wireless charging.

We’ll know soon enough because other manufacturers will start putting it in their phones if they can get the tech right without breaching the IP (which Apple got when they acquired RealFace in 2014 - this has been coming for a while).

The key point though is not who is first to market with something, but who gets it to work. ApplePay was not the first means of paying for something with your phone, but it was the one that got traction in the West (in the east it was app focused - Alipay and Tencent’s wepay dominate in China) and Wireless charging Apple didn’t bother with for ages, a number of Android phone have had it for ages, but try to find a wireless charging point in public. My guess is that will change Now Apple have got on board.

ollie_porter 29-10-2017 02:23 PM

I have an issue with my iPhone.

Whenever I am walking along with headphones, music stops by itself, plays by itself and even goes 10x faster than it should. Voice control also comes on by itself. Sometimes it is a worse problem than other times.

I've tried different headphones, restoring the phone, deleting and re-installing the music app. I think it is a hardware problem rather than software but thought you lot may have a idea?!

Isle of Wight 29-10-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Adlerhorst (Post 13918335)
Except that’s not true, is it.

This phone lives and dies on the facial recognition. This isn’t the same as iris scanning, it’s streets ahead. It potentially allows the phone to do different things that iris scanning does not. It’s potentially a game changer in terms of how we use phones, which is somewhat different to something like wireless charging.

We’ll know soon enough because other manufacturers will start putting it in their phones if they can get the tech right without breaching the IP (which Apple got when they acquired RealFace in 2014 - this has been coming for a while).

The key point though is not who is first to market with something, but who gets it to work. ApplePay was not the first means of paying for something with your phone, but it was the one that got traction in the West (in the east it was app focused - Alipay and Tencent’s wepay dominate in China) and Wireless charging Apple didn’t bother with for ages, a number of Android phone have had it for ages, but try to find a wireless charging point in public. My guess is that will change Now Apple have got on board.

It is today

Apart from The phone unlock and I believe some stuff with emojis it doesn't do anything that can justify such a huge layout.

Even if at some later date they come up with something £1000 is still huge money. Is it needed? Does it represent value. I would say no it's just vanity and keeping up with the joneses

Galo 29-10-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Adlerhorst (Post 13918335)
Except thatís not true, is it.

This phone lives and dies on the facial recognition. This isnít the same as iris scanning, itís streets ahead. It potentially allows the phone to do different things that iris scanning does not. Itís potentially a game changer in terms of how we use phones.

Iím intrigued to know what the game changer is apart from not being able to unlock the phone without looking at it.

Neckinger Eagle 29-10-2017 10:26 PM

I feel particularly dense sometimes, especially when faced with a behemoth company trying to extract more money out of me.

What was it that Jeff Goldblum says in one of the Jurassic Park films? Just because we have the power to do something it doesn't me we should do it.

You see, for instance, I just cannot work out why anybody feels they need software to put monkey ears and cat whiskers on their face as they take yet another narcissistic photograph of themselves.

It's interesting that just as the new phones come out the operating system upgrades on the old phones and now the battery runs out in five minutes. Of course, the company is working a solution, which is perhaps something they should have done before releasing the update. Or maybe they just hope that people will think that phones should only last a matter of months before they need replacing.

Call me cynical if you want.

Heb 7:4 29-10-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckinger Eagle (Post 13919448)
It's interesting that just as the new phones come out the operating system upgrades on the old phones and now the battery runs out in five minutes.

I tried to do video editing on my ZX Spectrum and I couldn't get it to work at all. Clearly the computer companies are ripping us off too.

montstar 30-10-2017 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ollie_porter (Post 13918560)
I have an issue with my iPhone.

Whenever I am walking along with headphones, music stops by itself, plays by itself and even goes 10x faster than it should. Voice control also comes on by itself. Sometimes it is a worse problem than other times.

I've tried different headphones, restoring the phone, deleting and re-installing the music app. I think it is a hardware problem rather than software but thought you lot may have a idea?!

Can almost guarantee thereís dust and crap in ur headphone socket or power jack depending on which iPhone you have get a pin or whatever you feel comfortable with and clean it out and it will improve - if youíre close to an Apple shop they will do for you

HTH

ollie_porter 30-10-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by montstar (Post 13919605)
Can almost guarantee thereís dust and crap in ur headphone socket or power jack depending on which iPhone you have get a pin or whatever you feel comfortable with and clean it out and it will improve - if youíre close to an Apple shop they will do for you

HTH

I would have had the exact same though if there was also issues with charging too.

I'll give it a go and report back :)

Thanks!

Steve in Phoenix 01-11-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 13918250)
But that's not the same. You can do all roughy the same on a phone at half the price £1000 for what ? "It looks cool" ? "It recognises my face" ?

Sky is unique you can't get its content elsewhere you can get the phone features elsewhere.


Roughly the same isn't good enough. Not when for 50p a day I can have a phone that does everything with ease and no hassle at all.

I don't have sky and having a phone that entertains and works for me in every way, every hour of my waking day is far far better value for money.

Isle of Wight 02-11-2017 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve in Phoenix (Post 13923869)
Roughly the same isn't good enough. Not when for 50p a day I can have a phone that does everything with ease and no hassle at all.

I don't have sky and having a phone that entertains and works for me in every way, every hour of my waking day is far far better value for money.

50p a day or £1 a day ;)

Whatever it still represents £1000 no matter how you pay for it. I still haven't heard what it does over any other phone apart from currently recognising your face and switching on. What revolution will this spawn? All the other features seem to have already been done by someone else. You can get them to use every hour of the day doing the same thing so I still don't get it. What can you do on an iphone x that you cant on another phone at far less cost or is it a status thing?

redandblue 02-11-2017 06:47 AM

I a, an ex iPhone user I had a 6s plus went to upgrade (I buy my phone cash and sim only) and to replace like for like was something around £600 bought a moto g4plus does everything my iPhone does and more for £200. iPhone has better camera and keyboard my phone has better battery life, is dual sim and has expandable memory. iPhone is a costly folly for fools and I am glad I escaped ��

eddieskyclad 02-11-2017 03:26 PM

Funny that people moan about other people spending a few quid on an iPhone but are perfectly happy driving around in a BMW or Audi. I mean a Dacia or Lada Riva would do the job just as well...

Chillo 02-11-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 13923936)
50p a day or £1 a day ;)

Whatever it still represents £1000 no matter how you pay for it.

And that's just for the handset; the service on top of that makes it considerably more that £1/day.


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