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Dorking .Eagle 19-11-2003 03:58 PM

It's a tough one. I've lost count of the number of "JS Collectibles" cards I've got over the last few months, all glorifying players I've never heard of, some of whom have made about 1 appearance. The quality (b/w pics) is nothing to get excited about either, and at 1 a card, I am questioning if I want to buy any more of them.
However do they fit my criteria? Well they are not like cig or trade cards in that they were not "given away" with anything, and there is not even the "random contents in packets" element that made collecting Panini etc and swopping them so much fun as a kid. They are purely being done to be sold to club obsessed junkies like me an you.
However if you ignore them on that basis, you have to do the same for that fantastic set of 20 Palace caricatures done by Phillip Neill.
So sadly yes, I'd list them.

Neil the Eagle 19-11-2003 04:53 PM

Your council is noted.

My big dilemma is that these are really just re-issued, touched up photographs rather than a proper collection, however the bloke flogging 'em might choose to describe them.

It also opens up a big can of worms with the autograph cards printed each year from 2001 by the club and also the Supporters Club photos from the 1950's.

The caricatures and the likes of Matchday, Lychgate etc. were produced to specifically to resemble trading cards, whatever their method of distribution.

My god, I've just re-read this, I'll fetch my anorak.

arussell 20-11-2003 01:47 AM

I think you need a bigger one Neil :D

Neil the Eagle 20-11-2003 11:33 AM

Nah, I'll simply borrow yours.

Dorking .Eagle 31-12-2003 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Dorking .Eagle

Still short of four 1908 Taddy's, a whopping thirteen 1913 Taddy's, two Pattreiouex, one miniature Pinnace and seventeen large Pinnace (which are frustratingly elusive despite their relative low value) to then have everything tobacco related to CPFC. More hunting required!!!!

Darn it! One of the two Pattreiouex cigarette cards that I am after is up for auction on ebay right now. But the cheeky seller has started the auction at a ridiculous 29 or you can "buy it now" for ninety odd quid. No thanks. Them cards are worth 5-6 each and I would rather wait a few more years and pay a fair price rather than be ripped off to that extent.

(Plus I don't think it is so rare that I won't find one elsewhere sometime anyway)

Neil the Eagle 01-01-2004 05:02 PM

I agree mate, that is feckin' ridiculous. I picked up the Pattreiouex Bradford v Palace for a fiver the other day.

The list is changing again as I've decided to add a Dealer Price column to each card, may need your help on that for some of the more obscure stuff.

stushirts 01-01-2004 06:15 PM

are you including international stickers and cards , such as geoff thomas from panini euro 92?

Neil the Eagle 01-01-2004 10:58 PM

The list is cards that specifically relate to Palace or if they appear in Palace kit rather than that of their country.

Given the amount of foreign internationals we've had it would be impossible to track down all these down as many would be in collections issued in their own country.

Granada allover 01-01-2004 11:28 PM

For the definitive UK cigarette card collectors magazine try http://www.cardtimes.co.uk.

It's produced by a Yeovil fan, David Stuckey, and published monthly.

Dorking .Eagle 02-01-2004 09:18 AM

There are very few international stickers/cards relating to players that were AT PALACE at the time -
I can only think of
Geoff Thomas - Panini Euro 92
Lombardo - Barratt 97 (98?)
Kirovski/Morrison/Berhalter - Panini WC 2002

basically because though there may be tons of Sansom/Coppell/Wright/Martyn/Southgate etc stuff in international kit, none were Palace players at the time of the issue.

stushirts 02-01-2004 09:59 AM

was only thinking of international players listed as being at palace in the album , as you have listed them all that answers my question.

As I have mentioned loads of times to different people it would be great to see all these cards in a book . Shame it cant happen though

Dorking .Eagle 02-01-2004 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by stupa1ace
it would be great to see all these cards in a book
It is wonderful!

Neil the Eagle 02-01-2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dorking .Eagle
There are very few international stickers/cards relating to players that were AT PALACE at the time -
I can only think of
Geoff Thomas - Panini Euro 92
Lombardo - Barratt 97 (98?)
Kirovski/Morrison/Berhalter - Panini WC 2002

basically because though there may be tons of Sansom/Coppell/Wright/Martyn/Southgate etc stuff in international kit, none were Palace players at the time of the issue.

Yeah, but the point I was making is that we don't know about overseas collections.

For instance, Italy, the home of Panini, do a whole collection each year 'celebrating' their National team squad, with action shots from games, etc. Lombardo (and possibly Padovano) is bound to have featured several times in the 1997 season collection.

Anyway I'll add the above, if someone can provide numbers for the WC2002 cards.

stushirts 02-01-2004 11:52 AM

sorry , all stuck in the album .

Neil the Eagle 02-01-2004 05:02 PM

S'OK found 'em.

Neil the Eagle 02-01-2004 05:05 PM

BTW although Bassett cards were complied to Nov 1998, they were only released in 1999 after Lombardo had gone.

Dorking .Eagle 02-01-2004 05:28 PM

Crumbs! I make the "rules" for my collection! (Not having a go Neil).
Lombardo is mentioned as being a Crystal Palace player on the back, so that'll do for me.

Neil the Eagle 02-01-2004 05:33 PM

Cool, I wasn't having a go either, mate!

Just imparting another nugget of completely useless information I have gleaned since starting what was intending to be a small sideline project!

I take it you know about the Kenny Sansom (Topps 80) and Ian Evans (Sun 78) cards, both listed under their country, but feature in Palace Kit.

Actually, of course you do, you have a copy the list!

El Aguila 02-01-2004 05:37 PM

If a woman ever chances across this thread, she'll piss herself.

Dorking .Eagle 02-01-2004 05:41 PM

Amazingly, a couple of months ago I took the other half to a cigarette card collectors fair, expecting her to constantly ask that we leave and nagging me about how much I was spending, and she actually quite enjoyed it - between us we hunted for the elusive cards on my "wants" list, which although it may sound boring, becomes like some rather interesting needle in a haystack quest.
But I do admit the whole thing is totally anorak.


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