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N Herts Eagle 18-03-2021 11:54 PM

One which was probably the most toxic was the F A Cup 2 2 draw against Everton in the early 70s. The referee was saved by Yogi from being attacked by a fan. Tackles assaults might be a better term by Everton one on Jacko in the first half were ignored. The Evening News in its match report suggested the Police were extremely concerned that it could over spill and even thought about having the game called off.

ozzieEagle 19-03-2021 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by N Herts Eagle (Post 15709059)
One which was probably the most toxic was the F A Cup 2 2 draw against Everton in the early 70s. The referee was saved by Yogi from being attacked by a fan. Tackles assaults might be a better term by Everton one on Jacko in the first half were ignored. The Evening News in its match report suggested the Police were extremely concerned that it could over spill and even thought about having the game called off.


I've talked about this particular game before. It was as far as I'm concerned the closest I've personally seen to a full scale riot at a game. Definitely the angriest Selhurst crowd.

Hedgehog 19-03-2021 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by N Herts Eagle (Post 15709059)
One which was probably the most toxic was the F A Cup 2 2 draw against Everton in the early 70s. The referee was saved by Yogi from being attacked by a fan. Tackles assaults might be a better term by Everton one on Jacko in the first half were ignored. The Evening News in its match report suggested the Police were extremely concerned that it could over spill and even thought about having the game called off.

Wasn't Alan Whittle one of the main antagonist in that game?

Only to join Palace a few weeks later...

ozzieEagle 19-03-2021 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15709062)
Wasn't Alan Whittle one of the main antagonist in that game?

Only to join Palace a few weeks later...

I think the whole Everton team were. Thing is the referee lost control of the game. Yogi (John Hughes) was a huge big beefy player and must have seen red. Anyway he started running with the ball and knocked over at least 3 maybe 4 or even 5 Everton players along the way as he headed straight towards goal which he seemed to determined to run the ball straight into. Ref blew his whistle and sent him straight off. I think it may have been the first card of the game, despite Palace players being floored left right and centre before that Yogi incident. The people running on to have a go at the Ref came from the Old Stand.... that's how fired up people were. The Holmesdale was in total uproar. Lots of people threatening to get on the pitch, not only to attack the ref, but the Everton players as well.



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N Herts Eagle 19-03-2021 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15709062)
Wasn't Alan Whittle one of the main antagonist in that game?

Only to join Palace a few weeks later...

No that was the league game the next season he and Mel were involved. Strange what 20 years latter we and Everton again clashed Keown tackle on Young following the ZDS final the season before.

N Herts Eagle 19-03-2021 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzieEagle (Post 15709061)
I've talked about this particular game before. It was as far as I'm concerned the closest I've personally seen to a full scale riot at a game. Definitely the angriest Selhurst crowd.

I would agree think half time helped. I would suggest it would of only needed one more tackle decision for it to errupt.The break took just enough edge off it.

Hedgehog 19-03-2021 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by N Herts Eagle (Post 15709065)
No that was the league gane the next season he and Mel were involved.

OK.

I was at both, but they all sort of blend together in my fading memory! :eek:

ozzieEagle 19-03-2021 12:33 AM

I'd love to chat to an Everton supporter or Player that was at that game that day. Bet it's engrained in their memories too.

JJ 19-03-2021 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieEdwards (Post 15709046)
Millwall didn't actually bugger anything up for us on that particular occasion. Actually they weren't even in the division as they'd been promoted the previous season. We needed Bradford to beat Man City on that day but that ended 1-1 which meant that we couldn't catch Man City.

Thanks, it must have been 1988 when we were relying on Millwall's result then, when we just missed out on the play-offs.

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Originally Posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro (Post 15709058)
I know that we had some outside chance of something or other at the Brum game which is why we came racing out of the traps, but the Man City link I remember for some reason because it was a rare televised match with Brian Moore doing the commentary

Yes - I think it was something like we had to win by 4 clear goals and hope the other result (which I'm now reliably advised didn't involve Millwall!) went our way in order to get automatic promotion rather than just get into the play-offs. But we ended up finishing 1 point behind Man City who took the 2nd automatic promotion place behind Chelsea.

N Herts Eagle 19-03-2021 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzieEagle (Post 15709068)
I'd love to chat to an Everton supporter or Player that was at that game that day. Bet it's engrained in their memories too.

Its something about Cup games and that era I can list 5 which were interesting

Leeds Chelsea Sunderland in 76 Tooting in 74 or 75 and of course Brighton replay..... Surviving the opposition fans was as interesting as the game.

Watching games of that era how bad were the challenges in the Everton game to get Selhurst so incensed. In todays game many games would of ended up 5 a sude.

Hedgehog 19-03-2021 01:03 AM

January 15th 1972 apparently. 2-2 but won the replay 3-2? (or lost 3-2... it's a little hard to confirm)

N Herts Eagle 19-03-2021 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15709073)
January 15th 1972 apparently. 2-2 but won the replay 3-2? (or lost 3-2... it's a little hard to confirm)

I am pretty sure we lost but i refer to one of your earlier posts at my age games also blend into one :)

Hedgehog 19-03-2021 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by N Herts Eagle (Post 15709074)
I am pretty sure we lost but i refer to one of your earlier posts at my age games also blend into one :)

Upon further review it was 3-2 to Everton (played on the 18th)

Apparently Palace didn't have a team out, so to score 2 goals was pretty good going!

https://www.11v11.com/matches/everto...y-1972-213302/

KYLIE MINEAGLE 19-03-2021 03:13 AM

Remember the 2-2 game and the violence, but not the replay ,which we of course lost. Wallace got both our goals at SP and Tambling both at Goodison. My memory isn't that good ,looked it up in me book

PeterH 19-03-2021 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ (Post 15709031)
Yes I know - I was talking about the atmosphere before all that crap kicked off. Sorry, should have been clearer.

I might be mistaken, but didn't it all kick off after the first Wright goal?

big bad John 19-03-2021 03:14 AM

Royle done Jacko in the 5th minute and should have gone. There's a picture of Jacko with the physio a couple of days later with his thigh completely black. Royle got booked later on for something trivial, but then he got clobbered by Yogi. He turned around and kicked Hughes. Hughes got booked and the ref Smiler Dawes was about to book Royle but realized he'd have to send him off if he did. He bottled it and that sparked the first pitch invasion. Hughes got sent off in the second half for a foul on David Johnson. Five bookings, a sending off and three pitch invasions. The match had everything.
That game still didn't feel as toxic as the Tooting and Mitcham match. Five or six Palace fans were stabbed that day.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 19-03-2021 03:15 AM

Oddly enough we had three games against Sheff Wednesday the following season and lost the third game(naturally) 2-3 at Villa Park. Neutral venues for replays those were the days.

PeterH 19-03-2021 03:15 AM

A cup game in the Armstrong era against Man City. Their fans weren't happy.

PeterH 19-03-2021 03:16 AM

And I think we can add some Bristol City games in there as well.

thereichstuff 19-03-2021 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro (Post 15709032)
Starting a *manager* out song for the opposing team was always a guilty pleasure

Did we ever do that at craven cottage when Alan dick was having a particular bad run.


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