Its a week later and I just realised that my shiny new iphone is still sitting on my desk unopened. A few years ago I would have ripped it open with all the delight of a child at Christmas. Now its Meh, doesn't do anything really different. I wonder if that buzz will ever come back or is it all bigger processor, better camera, brighter sceeen that no one REALLY notices.

They lost me at:

Processing a maliciously crafted audio file may lead to arbitrary code execution

Description: An out-of-bounds read was addressed with improved input validation.

CVE-2020-27910: JunDong Xie and XingWei Lin of Ant Security Light-Year Lab

No mention of battery life being impacted from what I can see... then again I'm sure they wouldn't admit to that.

Updated to iOS 15 at the weekend.

Nothing obvious changed visually, but having to answer (or make choices) when opening many of the apps. All appear related to being invisible or visible to contacts... I think that is pretty dumbing down the request, but basically what it means I guess.

To be honest I'm not sure what the correct answer is in my case... I just want to get the app open so have been selecting OK, but not sure what I'm agree to.

My wife's iPad after updating had a few visual changes, which is a red flag to a bull for her. That and all these questions, has caused quite a bit of friction between us today... we are both frustrated with the changes and the questions we don't know the right answer to.

Very annoying.

Looking at upgrading my second generation iPhone SE.

Not sure whether to bother getting a 13 or just stick to a 12 mini, after all it would be an upgrade on what I have. Then again it’s not that much more for a 13, especially when you consider the storage size is double as a minimum.

I guess the right side of me is thinking to just buy the 12 as it’s a few £ a month cheaper, but will I be throwing money away? Is the 13 much better?

Depends which 13... the Pro, yes, definitely. The others, not so much.

I don’t really want to spend the money on the pro. I know the 12 and the 13 will be a decent upgrade on what I have, it’s just more a case on whether I should save a few £ a month and just get the 12 over the 13.

My mrs has the 12, I got a 13 a month ago. Other than the camera there's very little difference. Does the 12 come with the same amount of memory? If so, frankly, I'd probably go with the 12.

You can have the option of the same memory but I think it works out about £50 cheaper, so perhaps I’ll just lay the extra and get the 13!

I think that it depends how long you intend to keep the phone as the newer model will have a better processor and possibly more RAM so should last you longer. If you tend to upgrade every couple of years then go for the 12, if you hang onto them for several years then I would go for the newer model. last year I went from the 6s plus which I used for six years to the iPhone 12.

actually, this is exactly how I wound up choosing the 13... it was a smidge more expensive than the 12 and there was an offer of interest free payments over 2 years... made it even more affordable. So I thought, **** it.

and yes, I dont upgrade frequently. I went from the original 6 to the 13 so it made even more sense for the 13

I normally change after two years and sell my old phone, as I keep them in a good condition so there is some decent resell value.

Part of me thinks **** it and buy the best one, as I never get the latest phone when they come out, but then I am tight as arseholes!

They always slooooooowww down as the OS gets more and more bloated. I would go with whichever has the fastest specs esp if it’s only a couple of quid extra will be worth it in the long run if you keep it or more £ if you sell it

Think I’ve narrowed it down to the standard iPhone 13 and the iPhone 13 mini.

I have a 13, my wife has the mini. She went from a 6S which is basically the same size as your SE I think, and she definitely preferred the mini rather than the 13 in terms of size.

Think I’m going to pop into store today and compare the sizes to be sure. But mini does seem like a more hand held device which is what I’m used too!

Depends how urgent you need a new phone, but the Iphone SE 3 looks like it will be released around March/April next year.

Its what im holding out for at the moment at least (as long as it keeps touch id) :)

The 13 mini will still have a bigger screen than the SE that you are used to.

Yeah I must admit, the Touch ID is a big draw for me and I’ll be sad to not have that option. Just can’t see apple sticking with it when all their other phones no longer have it. It was a surprise when they put it on this one to be honest.

Just make sure you buy it online. If you buy in store and change your mind you’re stuck with it.

If you go for the mini then this looks like a great deal as long as a 24 month contract and capacity suit you, providing the network has good coverage where you need it. iPhone 13 mini 256 gb capacity, £29.99 a month for 24 months, includes 100gb 5g data, unlimited minutes and texts.

I tend to buy the handset up front and go for a 30 day contract instead, but with this deal the cost of the phone and contract is less than buying the handset outright (and go course this includes two years worth of monthly charges). Cost of buying 256 gb mini handset outright = £779. Cost of 24 month contract including handset = £29.99 x 24 = £719.76. Looks too good to be true, can anyone see if there is a catch that I am missing? Delivery date is 20th January though.


https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/iph...s71976-3860471

Great deal that, especially seeing as it’s the 256gb version. Shame it’s not available until back end of January!

Always worth checking apple refurbished, get an unlocked phone and just get a sim only deal - works out quite abit cheaper
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/refurbished

Just get a One Plus

As you should be - unless of course it’s faulty. :p

Back on topic (sorry Joe, it’s a personal thing:)) I used to buy outright on every major model upgrades outright on release from the first model up to the 7. Like others I think there have been no further amazing improvements that made any real difference to the user experience since then and I haven’t bothered to upgrade.

It’s a 128Gb 7, running 15.1 and it seems as fast as the day I bought it.

Xiaomi is a better shout these days

Face ID is a basic human right. That came in on the X.

But otherwise it is mostly this is a bit better and that’s a bit better, which is why people are upgrading far less frequently.

Not for the last couple of years its not it’s been a pain in our mask wearing society. Also just tapping the fingerprint reader is much better when you don’t want to pick up the phone but still want to answer it. :)

Yes I'm going to weigh that one up when I come to need a new one. The picture quality on my 8 Pro is really good.

No idea why people buy iPhones for £1200+. I had my phone shipped in from Hong Kong at a cost of £649 and it's better

Yep, just had to pop into town with my mask on.
Nightmare with Face ID.

As someone who has worked for a Chinese company who (amongst other things) makes vast vast vast numbers of mobile phones, there are certain things I would now not do, and that includes running a phone where the company is controlled / heavily influenced by the Chinese state. That’s all Chinese mobile phone companies btw.

Picked up a 13 pro in the end. Liking it so far, certainly prefer the larger size over the old SE that I had. Glad I made the jump.

Anyone got a home projector that links to iPhone (or iPad / Mac)

To watch Apple TV / Netflix etc…

Thanks

I suffer Face ID on the iPad Pro and I hate it!

It’s just seems completely unreliable in recognising me. My eldest, whose another Face ID fanboy, just wouldn’t accept I was telling the truth so I showed him.

He just laughed when he realised I was right. I added him and it recognised him every bloody time.

The problem sounds like it is with your face rather than the system, no? ;)

Indeed, annoyingly it’s the only logical explanation.

Do you have spotlights and the ipad facing up rather than Vertical? Heard a few issues where theres too much light interference HTH

other than few things to try here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAPR3UeTjM

I do tend to use it face up mostly but it’s no better on the occasions I hold it vertically. I’ll take a look at that vid, thanks.

Boy, I couldn't watch that past about 30 seconds... that voice made my teeth ache!

Omg I only listened based around your comment and I wanted to stuff rags down her throat within 15!!!!

Is THAT IT? The latest innovation from Apple is to make their flagship phone Green ??? Am I missing something

It’s not a full refresh, just a six month mid cycle colour release. They did it with iPhone 12 to introduce a purple one that my wife bought instantly. It’s to inject momentum into this cycle before the main update in September or October.

Random question - currently my job provide my phone and the number I've had my working life. I am leaving at the end of April and my new company will do the same. However for a period I would rather get a SIM and just see how the land lies and have control of my phone number - what is the best way to get a 2/3 year old iphone in decent nick that can tie me over for 6 months or so.

If anyone on here is about to trade in - I'd happily pay the price you are being offered by a provider / matsuma etc.. or is there a decent website for this?

If you go on faceache and type in iphone in the search it will come up with local bargain sites.I`ve just looked and there are loads on there,all comes down to what you want to spend.

I have an iPhone 8+ with a PAYG sim in great nick that I have as my spare. You can borrow it if you like. Don’t want to sell it as it makes a great back up but may in Sept when my refresh happens. Pay the postage there and back keep tipping up as you use and I’ll pop it into the post when I am back on the 2 April.

I have recently converted to Iphone to sync in with the rest of the family, my headphones don't seem to connect greatly during calls on my Iphone so can anyone recommend in ear headphones that work perfectly with Iphone's?

Or is it best to bite the bullet and just buy Airpods?

I have to say want too impressed with AirPods but LOVE my AirPods Pro. I think Amazon has a deal on them at the mo. The last ages can recharge in the case and have pretty good noise cancelling

Cheers - we use facebook market place for loads - on mobiles was slightly concerned it would be a hotbed of stolen and faulty handsets.

General iApple question - we’ve started getting an annoying error on Mail. Synch with Yahoo mail fails intermittently saying connection to server failed. Anyone else had this and fixed it?

Interesting... I thought it was just me.

I have Yahoo also, and the phone seems to not be syncing.

I just noticed as I type this there was a little "details" link in the error message. A pop-up says, "No password provided for "Yahoo"".

Let me check it out and report back...

I assume this is related to the software upgrade I did 2 days ago.

After adding the yahoo password I'm getting emails on my phone again. Although seem a bit clunky.

Not sure if this is related to your problem BBE?

No, mine says connection to server failed. Started sporadically about 6 months ago.

Ops sorry.

I think Yahoo is on the outs and they seem to be having quite a few server problems. I seem to have a lot of unexplained minor issues with them.

Do any of you use solely an iPhone without other Apple products and if so are there any issues?

Only once had a iPod many moons ago and do not want to jump ship to Apple. I already have enough toys Microsoft and Android based. However I was playing around with a mate's 13 the other day and I'm tempted to the dark side for the first time.

I'm in the market for a new phone and the S22 was in my sights but I'm trying to be open minded.

Does anyone know what to do when messages dont show a contact name but a phone number?

Tried all the suggested troubleshooting that's online but still have the same issue.

Do you backup to iCloud?

No I don’t I seem to have everyone from apple to Amazon wanting me to buy “cloud storage” it also meant that I ended up with duplicates of all the photos on my phone for some stupid reason so I gave up and just use Amazon for pics as it comes with prime, THE only subscription I have

If you tried all the suggested troubleshooting tips online it's hard to know what to suggest!

The one tip I saw that seemed the easiest and had good feedback as working was to delete the phone number on just one of your contacts, and then edit it back in. Seems like it resets the process.

I've no idea if it works, but like I say, seemed to work for some people with the same issue.

They operate totally independent of the Apple ecosystem. Everything the Phone needs is done on the phone.

HTH.

Am I missing something, or did the iPhone not used to have an option to send an incoming phone call to voicemail?

I see you can set a toggle to send all incoming calls from numbers that are not in your contacts to voicemail, but that seems a bit drastic.

I would agree it is better than nothing, but seems a bit limiting and forces you to pretty much make a contact for everyone you give your number to if you want to get a call from them. Or just let them leave you a message and then add them as a contact if it is worth it to you.

Go to Settings > Do Not Disturb > Allow Calls From
Select Everyone, No One, or Favorites; alternatively, select a group.

Select everyone, then your phone won’t ring when a call comes in and when you don’t answer the call will go to voicemail.

Thanks, that is pretty much how I have set it up now. All numbers not in my contacts go straight to voicemail.

It was just that I seem to recall there was an option to do this when you got the call (sent to message). Now the only options you have is Accept or Reject.

Progress I guess...

Can I just say that so far I am loving the "Send numbers not in your contacts straight to voicemail" feature I mentioned above, and switched on at that time.

So far I've had about 6 or 7 calls that didn't even ring on the phone and only one so far has left an automated voicemail.

Now just got to figure out how to stop my Fitbit from vibrating when I get these spam calls. I got one at 6:45 this morning which triggered my Fitbit to vibrate, but the phone didn't ring.

Anyone else got or had this problem?
When I am called on the Cellular service I answer and can hear them
But they can’t hear me. If I call back it works fine. If I am called via face time or what’s app etc it works fine. I was told to switch off my blutooth, which fixed the problem but now I’m buggered for my hands free, tile, tracker etc etc any ideas google hasn’t helped

When my dad makes or receives calls all he can hear and the other person is a horrible muffled sound making the call pointless. It’s not the sound on the phone as text tone / what’s app calls work etc. new SIM card didn’t fix the problem.

Is this likely to be an issue with the provider?

Clean the grill where you ear goes with a lot of alcohol/aftershave and an ear bud.

Your saying the sound from the same speaker is fine when making calls over Whatsapp, but not when using the mobile network?

Could it be an antenna issue with the phone? I remember when the iPhone 4 first came out, there were issues with the antenna, which was embedded in the stainless steel bezel. Essentially, when you touched it in certain places, the mobile signal dropped out.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. But WiFi calling on the ''phone'' app doesn't work either. It must be a Sky Mobile issue...

I updated phone to iOS 16 yesterday... Why do they have to **** with everything.

A minor annoyance is the font on the lock screen clock has been made bigger. I understand you can customize the screen and use different fonts for the clock, but the size remains the same.

Reading articles on the web, I'm not alone in not liking this, and it also confirms there if no option to return it to what it was other than going back to iOS 15, which seem stupid.

I keep finding other little annoyances also. All chicken shit stuff, so why?

As Pardew said to Pellegrini….….

( actually i am now wondering whether to update )

I wish I hadn't, but I guess you have to eventually one way or another, so just get it over with and live with the changes.

And just when you get used to them……

I think there’s some great stuff in ios16. Being able to delete and edit messages - and I think emails - after you’ve sent them is a major improvement. Plenty of other nice improvements across the board as well, I like it.

The size of the Lock Screen clock is I agree utterly hateful. Changing it to a thinner font certainly helps although that doesn’t help with iPads where it’s even more obtrusive but you can’t edit it.

Who the **** signed that off in Apple?

I would agree with all of that.

I just tried out the deleting of a sent message and it came back and said it only works if the person you sent the message to has updated their software (I assume to 16). I think it said something like the person may still be able to see the message on their device if they hadn't.

A week in, and I continue to come across chicken shit changes.

And all with no option to revert to how it was.

Latest discovery is watching a video you used to be able to jump forward of back 15 seconds with the controls along the bottom of the screen. Now it is +/- 10 seconds and the controls are slap bang in the middle of the screen.

That certainly does sound like gosh darn cockamammy chicken shit change, old top.

Went to do a FaceTime today, and the format and layout has all changed.

Not sure if this is down to iOS 16 update or not, but I didn’t like it.

More change for change sake.