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Bipe 11-11-2020 09:32 AM

Yes it seems like an absolute classic. Nice to see a packed Holmesdale though, plus a few glimpses of Nigel 'my left foot' Winterburn. Has there ever been a more one-footed player in the history of the game? He used to go to ridiculous lengths to avoid so much as touching the ball with his right foot.

ElwissAtMemphis 12-11-2020 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy
Did i hear Limpar correctly in that interview when asked to comment on English football “ The football here is very very poor”

"The football here is very, very fast. Attacking all the time and you don't have too much time when you've got the ball."

Grim Reaper 12-11-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 15498840)
Rubbish game that cost 20 quid to get in.

Not sure it was £20 to get in back in 1990. Were you in the poshest seats for that price?

I know in 1989-90 the open terraces were £4 and the Arthur was £6.

In 1992-94 it was £9 to stand on the Holmesdale - never did the seats so I don't know how that compared.

Even in 1995 when the capacity was reduced due to ground redevlopment it rose to £18 for that season before dropping again when we were relegated.

jaspercpfc 12-11-2020 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15500303)

Even in 1995 when the capacity was reduced due to ground redevlopment it rose to £18 for that season before dropping again when we were relegated.

With no concessions for u16's, which looking back was criminal. To compare my season ticket in the New Holmesdale stand 95/96 cost £60.

Bipe 15-11-2020 10:23 AM

On 17 November 1990 we travelled to Loftus Road to take on west London rivals Queen’s Park Rangers. Through the 1980s QPR had taken full advantage of their hated and unfair plastic pitch to establish themselves as seasoned top flight campaigners, finishing as high as fifth on a couple of occasions. The first of these had led to an infamous UEFA Cup campaign when they were drawn against Partizan Belgrade. QPR crushed their Yugoslav opponents 6-2 in the first leg at Loftus Road but then lost the return 4-0 to humiliatingly exit the competition on the away goals rule. How we laughed, particularly as they were managed by Alan Mullery at the time.

They had done the double over us the previous season without conceding a goal. A comfortable 2-0 win at Loftus Road on the opening day, which for us was more about the occasion of our first game back in the big time, but then they really schooled us 3-0 at Selhurst Park with the veteran midfielders Ray Wilkins and Peter Reid absolutely running the show. This season though they had got off to a somewhat mediocre start, just 12 points from their opening 12 games and only one point above the relegation zone.

Loftus Road was always a great ground to go to when the terraces were still there behind the goal, packed in close to the pitch and the low roof made for fantastic acoustics, albeit that the view of the near goal was somewhat restricted. This turned out to be a great away day, Ian Wright scoring both goals in a 2-1 win including if memory serves a late winner to send the away end into raptures. As the second half wore on we were pushing harder and harder for the winner, a measure of the appetite and attitude of this side. It was a strong performance and saw us back to winning ways after picking up just the one point in the previous two games.

Bipe 15-11-2020 10:38 AM

The new entrants into the top ten for week ending 17 November 1990 are hardly worth revisiting, there was only one:

Fog On The Tyne (Revisited) by 'Gazza and Lindisfarne' - evidence of the post-World Cup Gazzamania in full flow, this hastily arranged cash in on his new-found celebrity status somehow reached number 2 in the charts. At least his handlers picked a song which reflected his Geordie roots, there were worse crimes in the world of music that year and good luck to the lad.

The week ending 24 November 1990 will give us a more varied menu to pick over.

Sir.S.C Remembered 15-11-2020 11:35 AM

Why was Salako transfer listed?

Pub Idol 15-11-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 15496373)
God, I ******* hated that Arsenal team...

Me too. Bloody good though.

Bipe 15-11-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir.S.C Remembered (Post 15502326)
Why was Salako transfer listed?

I believe it was at his own request due to frustration at how long it was taking him to break through and become a first team regular. Who can blame him when you think it was Phil Barber, an honest trier but very limited in ability compared to Salako, who was blocking his path.

During the 1989/90 season he had come close to joining Swansea on a permanent basis after a successful loan spell. Ian Wright's broken leg came at a perfect time for him as it gave him the opportunity to break into the side. But at the start of 1990/91 he was still not sure of his place in the pecking order, particularly as Coppell had also signed the left-sided midfielder Glyn Hodges over the summer.

Sir.S.C Remembered 15-11-2020 12:37 PM

Thanks Bipe.

bubbs11 15-11-2020 02:08 PM

QPR 1. Wegerle
PALACE 2. Wright 2

Att: 14,360

Palace: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Thorn. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. Barber. Subs: McGoldrick (for Barber). Pardew (unused)

QPR: Roberts. Law. Bardsley. McDonald. Sansom. Parker. Barker. Sinton. Wilkins. Falco. Wegerle


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bubbs11 15-11-2020 02:17 PM

This game signalled the beginning of us getting back to form and winning ways again. We were good against Arsenal but after an unbelievable start we stuttered somewhat with our first defeat, making hard work of a 3rd division club over two games and not finding the net against Arsenal. One goal in four games, with Wright going eight without scoring. Was starting to feel a little edgy that things were predictably going to slide, but this game and the following away one set the tone that this was definitely no ordinary season.

Love the picture I posted above of our two youth team boys up against each other: Salako and of course Kenny Sansom. From memory, Kenny was a shadow of his former self by this stage of his career as his off field addiction was starting to affect his on field form.

Maiden Eagle 15-11-2020 02:41 PM

Looking at the present league table, Liverpool looked almost flawless - 12 wins and a draw out of 13 - yet I'm pretty sure Arsenal won the title, at a canter.

bubbs11 15-11-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maiden Eagle (Post 15502467)
Looking at the present league table, Liverpool looked almost flawless - 12 wins and a draw out of 13 - yet I'm pretty sure Arsenal won the title, at a canter.

Yes. Liverpool actually got to December unbeaten, then lost to Arsenal and Palace at the beginning and end of that month, then lost a further six in the end.

This Arsenal vintage were nearly the original ‘invincibles’, only losing once all season, 2-1 away to Chelsea in February.

SA Eagle 15-11-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15502342)
I believe it was at his own request due to frustration at how long it was taking him to break through and become a first team regular. Who can blame him when you think it was Phil Barber, an honest trier but very limited in ability compared to Salako, who was blocking his path.

During the 1989/90 season he had come close to joining Swansea on a permanent basis after a successful loan spell. Ian Wright's broken leg came at a perfect time for him as it gave him the opportunity to break into the side. But at the start of 1990/91 he was still not sure of his place in the pecking order, particularly as Coppell had also signed the left-sided midfielder Glyn Hodges over the summer.

The Barber/Salako debate was not dissimilar to a number of debates we currently see as to who should be in the side.

Salako was undoubtedly more exciting, and probably more talented, but could be inconsistent and often failed to translate his talent into being a more effective player for team. Capable of beating players with pace and/or skill, he was also as likely to leave the ball behind as he did so, or miscontrol it into touch having done so.

On the other hand, Barber was dependable and put in the kind of effort that managers like; despite popular opinion to the contrary he was capable of delivering a good ball and would chip in with goals every so often. You knew what you were going to get from him, and just as importantly what his flaws were, so that you could plan accordingly.

Fortunately for both players, and Coppell, their performances weren’t subject to quite the same level of microscopic analysis as occurs now, despite Barber being a fans’ whipping boy, although even then there were the odd few dickheads who would refer to Coppell as “having favourites” and use Barber as the example.

However, by 90/91, Salako had added more consistency to his game and it was time for Barber, having been an important member of the squad that got us to where we were, to move on.

Bipe 15-11-2020 05:24 PM

That's a fair assessment. I suppose Salako's point of view might have been that it was only through more regular game time that he would get the chance to develop his game and improve his consistency. Certainly that loan spell at Swansea seemed to do him the power of good, when he got the opportunity due to Wright's injury he started to look like the real deal and he played a key contribution to our run to the FA Cup final. The defensive side of his game had noticeably improved. No blame to Coppell of course who had good reason for staying loyal to players who fitted his system and ethic, but you could understand Salako's frustration.

SA Eagle 15-11-2020 05:31 PM

As for the game, we were stood by the near post for the corner that the winning goal came from. Thorn had taken up his position there, when Alan McDonald decided that rather than stand behind him, he wanted to stand in front, and made sure that he was able to by swinging elbows at Thorn to prevent him getting back in front. So it was quite delightful to see the corner sail over McDonald’s head and straight onto Thorn’s (who remember was stood exactly where McDonald had made such a show of moving from) for the flick on to Wright to score. Thorn turning and laughing at him in no way would McDonald up :angel:

Grim Reaper 17-11-2020 09:42 PM

Come on Bipe - I'm waiting for my chart update!

Vanilla Ice surely in the Top 10 by now. I'm guessing EMF's Unbelievable was making a run at this time as well.

Bipe 17-11-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15502263)
The new entrants into the top ten for week ending 17 November 1990 are hardly worth revisiting, there was only one:

Fog On The Tyne (Revisited) by 'Gazza and Lindisfarne' - evidence of the post-World Cup Gazzamania in full flow, this hastily arranged cash in on his new-found celebrity status somehow reached number 2 in the charts. At least his handlers picked a song which reflected his Geordie roots, there were worse crimes in the world of music that year and good luck to the lad.

The week ending 24 November 1990 will give us a more varied menu to pick over.

Fill your boots Grim my friend...no sign of the iceman yet I'm afraid, hang on in there though.

Grim Reaper 18-11-2020 10:59 PM

I'm going blind. How the hell did I miss you post that first time round!!?? Ha ha

bubbs11 21-11-2020 04:07 PM

Massive changes politically at this point in time in 1990:

Nov 20: PM Margaret Thatcher fails to win a leadership challenge outright but vows adamantly to fight on.

Nov 22: She resigns as PM after ministers advise her that her time is up. A shocking moment. Remember hearing the news at college and there were many happy faces about. Her 11 year reign was over. She came into power exactly a week before our glorious promotion victory at home to Burnley, and left office with Palace on a massive high again. Unfortunately, like her reign, the bits in the middle were mostly painful.

Bipe 21-11-2020 04:36 PM

Yes it seemed for much of the early 80s our 'strikers' - the likes of Tommy Langley, Chris Jones and Trevor Aylott - were more of the NUM variety than the footballing type. Certainly they may as well have been on the picket lines up north since they had little ability to do the job they were being paid for.

The other parallel is that the Tory party started to pull itself apart over Europe in the immediate post Thatcher era - their right wing fringe desperately trying to get the country out of Europe while during this season Palace were pushing hard to get in (or so we thought).

Bipe 22-11-2020 12:46 PM

I had forgotten that Roy Wegerle scored QPR’s goal. Wegerle was a great player to watch, he never really got the success or profile that his talents deserved. His big money move to Blackburn at the start of the Kenny Dalglish / Jack Walker era proved to be a mistake, he was never a regular starter for them and a few months after he joined they signed Alan Shearer which further limited his options. A move to Coventry was a definite downward step and before too long he had buggered off to his naturalised home the USA to see out his career. But I think it was during the 1990/91 season that he scored that Maradonaesque goal up at Elland Road, picking the ball up on the halfway line then embarking on a waltzing diagonal run past a variety of challenges before slotting home. It won goal of the season if I recall.

Anyway back to our own season and on 24 November we travelled down to The Dell to play Southampton. We had gone down in good numbers the previous season, a show of solidarity for our first game after the 9-0 debacle in which we were rewarded with a hard fought 1-1 draw, Jeff Hopkins scoring our goal. This year of course we were in more confident mood but if memory serves we fell behind early on due to a Richard Shaw own goal. But we surged back to overpower the Saints, winning 3-2 thanks to a brace from Wright and one from Bright, the old double act at it again. I remember this as an open game, both teams showing a lot of attacking intent. Saints had an experienced line up with the likes of Jimmy Case and Glenn Cockerill in the side but we just had too much for them.

On the train back we ended up sat next to a smartly dressed older guy (maybe mid 50s) who had obviously been to the game, he was flicking through the programme and jotting down a few things in a notepad. He was on his own. Discussion ensued and it turned out he had been there on a scouting mission for Liverpool – not to look at potential signings but to help them prepare for their game against us which was coming up at the end of December, he had seen us on a couple of previous occasions too. It wasn’t a deep conversation – we were only 18 year old kids – but we fired a few questions at him which he dealt with in good humour. When we asked him what he made of our players he of course mentioned Wright and Bright as a key focal point. He said they would both probably move on to ‘bigger clubs’ within a year or so (he was half right), and speculated that some teams might be tempted to sign them as a combined package, guaranteed to deliver goals. But much to my delight he also singled out Andy Gray for a special mention and I remember the phrase he used ‘he has no fear and that makes him very dangerous’. He also rated Nigel Martyn as a quality keeper with no obvious weaknesses. It was interesting to get such an insight from someone who seemed to know what they were talking about.

In one of those fixture ironies that crop up from time to time, our next game was only three days later, against the same opponents at the same ground in the League Cup. There seemed no reason why we couldn’t repeat the dosage and march on into the quarter finals.

Bipe 22-11-2020 12:53 PM

On to the charts and the moment Grim Reaper has been impatiently waiting for finally arrives! Four new entrants into the top ten week ending 24 November:

Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice - much derided over the years with the Jedward cover being the nadir, I never thought it was as bad as all that although not really my cup of tea. It went all the way to number 1 of course, spending 4 weeks at the summit including the much coveted Christmas slot.

Unbelievable by EMF - debut hit for the Epsom Mad ****ers, very much of its time but will still provoke a nostalgic reaction today. They proved to be a flash in the pan but the guitarist gained notoriety for his party trick of stuffing numerous 50p coins inside his foreskin.

To Love Somebody by Jimmy Somerville - former Bronski Beats and Communards vocalist embarks on a solo career with this tame cover. He needn't have bothered.

Cubik / Olympic by 808 State - this is what 1990 was all about, loved it then and still do today.

bubbs11 22-11-2020 09:20 PM

SOUTHAMPTON 2. Shaw OG. Rideout
PALACE 3. Wright 2. Bright

Att: 15,851

Palace: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Thorn. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. McGoldrick. Subs: Pardew (for Wright). Hodges (unused)

Southampton: Flowers. Osman. Ruddock. Adams. Dodd. Cockerill. Horne. Le Tissier. Rideout. Wallace. Shearer. Subs: Benali. Gotsmanov.

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November85 22-11-2020 09:26 PM

I loved the all blue and all red away kits.

bubbs11 22-11-2020 09:34 PM

With two games in a week at The Dell, I only could afford one trip so decided to go to the midweek cup clash instead. Wally! I had it in my head that with our great league start, the League Cup was going to be ours and as I managed to get to every round of our FA Cup run the previous season, I wanted to repeat it again.

A great win and with two away victories on the spin, I think everyone began to sit up and take notice.

Note that Arsenal and Man Utd were deducted points for the 21 man brawl at Old Trafford earlier in the season. Liverpool and Arsenal still unbeaten and Spurs still flying in third.

Bipe 22-11-2020 10:23 PM

Amazing that the top four sides only have two defeats between them after 14 games.

So this is finally the game in which our classic 1990/91 starting eleven makes its debut.

jaspercpfc 22-11-2020 10:39 PM

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Off topic (slightly) but did anyone else have a mercury CPFC inspired phone card in the early 90's?

https://www.cpfc.org/forums/attachme...1&d=1606081051

N Herts Eagle 22-11-2020 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15509869)
Amazing that the top four sides only have two defeats between them after 14 games.

So this is finally the game in which our classic 1990/91 starting eleven makes its debut.

My wait is over......

cappuccinoeagle 22-11-2020 11:10 PM

Was thinking that was probably our best eleven at the time.
Forgotten Ruddock played for Saints.
I’m assuming that is Rod Wallace as Danny had moved on to Manchester United the season before according to Wiki.

jaspercpfc 22-11-2020 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 15509906)
Was thinking that was probably our best eleven at the time.
Forgotten Ruddock played for Saints.
I’m assuming that is Rod Wallace as Danny had moved on to Manchester United the season before according to Wiki.

Yes, following season he (Rod) joined Leeds.

cappuccinoeagle 22-11-2020 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jaspercpfc (Post 15509912)
Yes, following season he (Rod) joined Leeds.


As did his twin Ray, a defender.

Golf Boy 22-11-2020 11:43 PM

Le Tissier and Shearer for them. Great win, but the two things that stick in my memory were a sublime bit of skill from Le Tissier right in front of us and two girls standing in front of me that managed to talk about Nigel Martyns bum for the entire first half.

stange555 23-11-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15508856)
On to the charts and the moment Grim Reaper has been impatiently waiting for finally arrives! Four new entrants into the top ten week ending 24 November:

Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice - much derided over the years with the Jedward cover being the nadir, I never thought it was as bad as all that although not really my cup of tea. It went all the way to number 1 of course, spending 4 weeks at the summit including the much coveted Christmas slot.

Unbelievable by EMF - debut hit for the Epsom Mad ****ers, very much of its time but will still provoke a nostalgic reaction today. They proved to be a flash in the pan but the guitarist gained notoriety for his party trick of stuffing numerous 50p coins inside his foreskin.

To Love Somebody by Jimmy Somerville - former Bronski Beats and Communards vocalist embarks on a solo career with this tame cover. He needn't have bothered.

Cubik / Olympic by 808 State - this is what 1990 was all about, loved it then and still do today.

I saw EMF at the Indie Daze one dayer a couple of years ago, great fun and mostly, really good. If you like Indie music of the Neds, PWEI style, can highly recommend the annual Indie Daze shindig, broke my leg on the edge of the mosh pit there last year watching Therapy?

Latvian Eagle 23-11-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jaspercpfc (Post 15509879)
Off topic (slightly) but did anyone else have a mercury CPFC inspired phone card in the early 90's?

https://www.cpfc.org/forums/attachme...1&d=1606081051

I had these as a kid.

Dorking .Eagle 23-11-2020 11:18 AM

I have both, in a collectors 'presentation pack' wallet somewhere.

There is a third very rare variation card out there in limited numbers too (worth £££!!!)

Basically, the £2 cards (with the team on) sold quicker than the £5 ones, so Mercury took some of the team group ones, and overprinted them as £5 ones (and presumably re-programmed them). These overprinted ones are very rare.

Grim Reaper 25-11-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15508852)
On the train back we ended up sat next to a smartly dressed older guy (maybe mid 50s) who had obviously been to the game, he was flicking through the programme and jotting down a few things in a notepad. He was on his own. Discussion ensued and it turned out he had been there on a scouting mission for Liverpool

Based on your description I think I met this same guy on a different occasion when he was scouting ahead of a Liverpool Cup tie with Ipswich in 1992.

He was friends with Geoff Twentyman - pro player from the 80s.

Nice guy who offered to take me as his guest in the posh seats when he was next scouting a Palace game.

He rang me a few a months later but I turned down the offer as my mum was convinced he was a paedo. Not that I told him that of course.

Given what's come up about coaches/club employees since she might have been right but it did feel like a missed opportunity at the time.

Grim Reaper 25-11-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15508856)
On to the charts and the moment Grim Reaper has been impatiently waiting for finally arrives! Four new entrants into the top ten week ending 24 November:

Ice Ice Baby by Vanilla Ice

Cubik / Olympic by 808 State

:lux::lux::lux::lux:

Grim Reaper 25-11-2020 11:17 AM

Southampton away was very much a Ceefax game. The horror and pain when 'Shaw o.g. 1 min' came up was acute. Much like the back pain I'm suffering with right now as it goes.

The eventual 3-2 win as I sat watching a mix of Grandstand and Ceefax was a joy.

The following day watching the goals on The Match and seeing that all blue away kit (which was the first time I remember seeing it - pretty sure it was the first time we wore it).

It was at that point I realised I couldn't put it off any longer - I HAD to start going to away games. The goal celebration bundles looked fantastic and I was missing out by restricting myself to home games only.

Bipe 25-11-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15513482)
Based on your description I think I met this same guy on a different occasion when he was scouting ahead of a Liverpool Cup tie with Ipswich in 1992.

He was friends with Geoff Twentyman - pro player from the 80s.

Nice guy who offered to take me as his guest in the posh seats when he was next scouting a Palace game.

He rang me a few a months later but I turned down the offer as my mum was convinced he was a paedo. Not that I told him that of course.

Given what's come up about coaches/club employees since she might have been right but it did feel like a missed opportunity at the time.

I was 18 and didn't pick up on any 'paedo vibes' and to be fair it was more us bothering him than vice versa. However we never got any invites to future games so maybe we were a bit too old!

On to 27 November which saw us repeat the trip down to the Dell for the League Cup game. I hadn't previously intended to go to this but changed my mind on the back of the 3-2 win at the weekend, which had been a great day out.

This turned out to be a bad decision, we went down meekly to a 2-0 defeat and never really looked like getting back into it once we'd gone behind. Stark contrast to the weekend performance. I have it in my mind that Paul Rideout scored for them but I might be completely wrong. To cap off a miserable experience our train back to London was significantly delayed en route and I missed my connection, meaning I didn't get home until the early hours of the morning then up a few hours later for work. Complete waste of time and money!

Grim Reaper 25-11-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15513514)
I was 18 and didn't pick up on any 'paedo vibes' and to be fair it was more us bothering him than vice versa. However we never got any invites to future games so maybe we were a bit too old!

I was 19 and didn't either, but my mum, who wasn't usually like that, got it in her head so I steered clear!

Definitely sounds like the same bloke although I can't remember his name.

All stacks up though. Never though to Google it until now but Geoff Twentyman the Bristol Rovers player (86-93) was the son of ex-Liverpool player and then scout Geoff Twentyman Sr, who happened to discover Ian Rush no less

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Twentyman_Jr.

Who knows - if my mum hadn't have stepped in I could have learnt the rules of scouting and been Palace chief scout by now! :eek::D

Grim Reaper 25-11-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15513514)
I was 18 and didn't pick up on any 'paedo vibes' and to be fair it was more us bothering him than vice versa. However we never got any invites to future games so maybe we were a bit too old!

On to 27 November which saw us repeat the trip down to the Dell for the League Cup game. I hadn't previously intended to go to this but changed my mind on the back of the 3-2 win at the weekend, which had been a great day out.

This turned out to be a bad decision, we went down meekly to a 2-0 defeat and never really looked like getting back into it once we'd gone behind. Stark contrast to the weekend performance. I have it in my mind that Paul Rideout scored for them but I might be completely wrong. To cap off a miserable experience our train back to London was significantly delayed en route and I missed my connection, meaning I didn't get home until the early hours of the morning then up a few hours later for work. Complete waste of time and money!

Real shocker when we lost this. After the FA Cup run, two consecutive Simod/ZDS semi finals and the good start in the League, winning Cups suddenly appeared to be within our grasp. Losing to a Saints team we'd just beaten was a real kick in the balls.

Slyda 25-11-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15513496)
Southampton away was very much a Ceefax game. The horror and pain when 'Shaw o.g. 1 min' came up was acute. Much like the back pain I'm suffering with right now as it goes.

The eventual 3-2 win as I sat watching a mix of Grandstand and Ceefax was a joy.

The following day watching the goals on The Match and seeing that all blue away kit (which was the first time I remember seeing it - pretty sure it was the first time we wore it).

It was at that point I realised I couldn't put it off any longer - I HAD to start going to away games. The goal celebration bundles looked fantastic and I was missing out by restricting myself to home games only.

It was a great atmosphere in the away end. I remember Richard Shaw coming over to us after the final whistle bowing in mock apology for the own-goal. :D

bubbs11 25-11-2020 09:26 PM

Rumblelows Cup 4th Rd

SOUTHAMPTON 2. Le Tissier. Shearer
PALACE 0

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Palace: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Thorn. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. McGoldrick. Subs: Hodges (for Thorn). Pardew (unused)



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bubbs11 25-11-2020 10:01 PM

What a disappointing night. I decided to go to this one instead of the weekend as I thought this could be our cup this year. Having had such a strong start to the league season it kind of felt right that this could be our first ever major trophy. I’ve always felt a little peeved that it wasn’t this trophy we’d won instead of the ZDS. The ZDS was a great day out and a good achievement but in time winning the league cup instead would’ve been more befitting for this, the very best side in our club’s history.

I travelled up on my own on one of the Palace coaches as neither my brother or friends went. Like Bipe I just felt it was such a wasted evening and kicked myself for going. Southampton were not going to let us beat them again and it felt like we were just not in it at all. Almost a repeat of our only other defeat that season so far at Old Trafford.

Just recall Shearer and Le Tissier’s smiling faces as they celebrated their goals. Wright was clearly not fit and we just weren’t at the races.

Away from football, it was an odd day for me and my family. It was announced that John Major had been elected leader of the Conservatives, beating Heseltine, and so succeeding Thatcher as Prime Minister. We actually knew John Major’s brother’s family very well. They lived opposite us in Thornton Heath in the 70’s and early 80’s, and my brother was best friends with John Major’s nephew, Mark, through school.

Mark would often be at our house and we at his. Have to say they were a lovely, warm family. At that point John Major was a relative unknown although Mark would talk on occasion of his Uncle who was in politics. So was a bit of a shock when it felt out of nowhere, he had become the new Prime Minister. We were shocked when he was Chancellor!

Remember a few months later bumping into Mark’s sister in McDonald’s in Croydon after a night out drinking with my brother, and again having this surreal conversation where your asking how she and her family are doing and then in the next breath saying, ‘Oh and what about your Uncle the PM eh?’. Never forget her reaction, she was giggling embarrassed with her hands over her face and kept saying, ‘I know, I know...’. Like please don’t mention it like it was a dark family secret as if her Uncle was one of the great train robbers or something.

gold76 26-11-2020 08:49 AM

Maybe not in terms of individuals, but that XI was Arguably our best ever team.

I know we moan now, but we do have, strikers aside, a bit more depth.

Injuries around February time did for us..

Grim Reaper 26-11-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyda (Post 15513852)
It was a great atmosphere in the away end. I remember Richard Shaw coming over to us after the final whistle bowing in mock apology for the own-goal. :D

Always nice when your howler isn't costly!

I remember Lombardo having a penalty saved v Bury and it going for a corner. From the resulting corner Lombardo delivered the perfect ball for Sagi Burton to head home to 'get our goal back' and Lombardo turning to the Holmesdale in a sort of 'praying way' as if to say 'I hope you can fofrgive me now'

All good fun :supergrin:

Grim Reaper 26-11-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15514141)
Away from football, it was an odd day for me and my family. It was announced that John Major had been elected leader of the Conservatives, beating Heseltine, and so succeeding Thatcher as Prime Minister. We actually knew John Major’s brother’s family very well. They lived opposite us in Thornton Heath in the 70’s and early 80’s, and my brother was best friends with John Major’s nephew, Mark, through school.

Mark would often be at our house and we at his. Have to say they were a lovely, warm family. At that point John Major was a relative unknown although Mark would talk on occasion of his Uncle who was in politics. So was a bit of a shock when it felt out of nowhere, he had become the new Prime Minister. We were shocked when he was Chancellor!

Remember a few months later bumping into Mark’s sister in McDonald’s in Croydon after a night out drinking with my brother, and again having this surreal conversation where your asking how she and her family are doing and then in the next breath saying, ‘Oh and what about your Uncle the PM eh?’. Never forget her reaction, she was giggling embarrassed with her hands over her face and kept saying, ‘I know, I know...’. Like please don’t mention it like it was a dark family secret as if her Uncle was one of the great train robbers or something.

Great story. People now don't realise how 'out of the blue' John Major was. Even on The Crown Season 4 which I've just watched, Heseltine gets mentioned as the man chasing down Thatcher's role as PM but pretty sure Major not even mentioned in passing.

I watched his first budget in the spring and everyone very polite about him, even Neil Kinnock. He just seemed like a nice enough guy but nothing more. For him to suddenly be PM just a few months later when all I'd ever known was Thatcher as PM, along with her stlawart cabinet of Howe, Heseltine, Lawson, Tebbitt etc. was a real surprise.

Mad Max 26-11-2020 04:05 PM

Heseltine divided the cabinet as much as Mrs T did and was used as a stalking horse.Genuine Chelsea supporter instead of that worm ass licker Mellor.

Baffled Bob 2 26-11-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 15514981)
Heseltine divided the cabinet as much as Mrs T did and was used as a stalking horse.Genuine Chelsea supporter instead of that worm ass licker Mellor.

Nope. Heseltine was a serious contender.

Sir Anthony Meyer was the stalking horse.

Dixie Eagle 26-11-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15502447)
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Love the picture I posted above of our two youth team boys up against each other: Salako and of course Kenny Sansom. From memory, Kenny was a shadow of his former self by this stage of his career as his off field addiction was starting to affect his on field form.

I remember Eddie McGoldrick taking Kenny Sansom to the cleaners in this match. Kenny looked a shadow of his former self by this stage.

stevek 26-11-2020 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Baffled Bob 2 (Post 15515003)
Nope. Heseltine was a serious contender.

Sir Anthony Meyer was the stalking horse.

Yes and no. Meyer's challenge was months before Thatcher went. It weakened her position, but there was no immediate further challenge. Howe's resignation months later was the turning point. Heseltine then challenged - as a serious contender as you say. He lost to Thatcher, but she didn't have enough votes to win outright under the rules at the time. She then decided to step down. It was then the party decided that Heseltine would be as divisive as Thatcher, and therefore turned to Major.

Grim Reaper 26-11-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15515475)
It was then the party decided that Heseltine would be as divisive as Thatcher, and therefore turned to Major.

Pretty swift all said and done in that case. Thatcher resigned and Major installed 5 days later.

Baffled Bob 2 26-11-2020 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15515515)
Pretty swift all said and done in that case. Thatcher resigned and Major installed 5 days later.

Didn't he have a convenient toothache? He literally was unable to speak up for Thatcher.

Bipe 27-11-2020 08:40 AM

The Southampton cup game took place in a new chart week. The top ten for week ending 1 December had three new entrants:

It Takes Two by Rod Stewart and Tina Turner - raucous cover which was low on quality. The coming together of two big acts automatically converted into sales.

Falling by Julee Cruise - the haunting theme music from David Lynch's Twin Peaks, which was the cult TV show of the year.

King Of The Road by The Proclaimers - yet another bloody cover, the charts were stuffed with them this year. Delivered in their usual style, bawling over acoustic guitars in their thick Scottish accents.

On the Thatcher thing, as an 18 year old who didn't particularly follow politics closely it seemed that she had fallen from a near impregnable position to being ousted almost overnight. I wasn't really aware of all the manouevring behind the scenes that had been taking place for months. Never underestimate the power of the Conservative party to tear itself apart and they regenerate into some new mutation.

El Aguila 27-11-2020 09:06 AM

She had been showing signs of diminished mental acuity for a few years, probably since not long after her last election win in 1987. It’s true that she didn’t look cooked until the last few months of her fall, but the political instinct had deserted her.

Grim Reaper 29-11-2020 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15515646)
The Southampton cup game took place in a new chart week. The top ten for week ending 1 December had three new entrants:

It Takes Two by Rod Stewart and Tina Turner - raucous cover which was low on quality. The coming together of two big acts automatically converted into sales.

Falling by Julee Cruise - the haunting theme music from David Lynch's Twin Peaks, which was the cult TV show of the year.

King Of The Road by The Proclaimers - yet another bloody cover, the charts were stuffed with them this year. Delivered in their usual style, bawling over acoustic guitars in their thick Scottish accents.

Eeeesh! Nowt too clever there. I remember Falling now you mention it but had forgotten about it and never watched Twin Peaks either despite the hype at the time. Was it actually any good?

I don't know specifically which date it was but it was one day in these last few days of November that Nige shaved off his tache!

Bipe 30-11-2020 05:09 PM

On 1 December 1990 we welcomed Coventry City to Selhurst Park. I will have to keep this update brief as I recall very little of the game, other than that I think big Cyrille Regis scored their goal in a 2-1 win for Palace. Mark Bright and Andy Gray scored our goals. It was a pretty cold day on the terraces I believe. Coventry had a team of seasoned pros around this time with the likes of Regis, Brian Kilcline and Steve Ogrizivic in goal. I think by then though our old friend David Speedie had somehow found himself at Liverpool?

The result meant that we'd bounced back from our only league defeat in the season to date with 10 points in the subsequent four games, the draw coming against eventual champions Arsenal. A great response which showed the growing resilience of this team, and we had picked up the happy habit of winning games by the odd goal. Next up was a trip to the pre-revamp Stamford Bridge.

bhcp 30-11-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15521943)
On 1 December 1990 we welcomed Coventry City to Selhurst Park. I will have to keep this update brief as I recall very little of the game, other than that I think big Cyrille Regis scored their goal in a 2-1 win for Palace. Mark Bright and Andy Gray scored our goals. It was a pretty cold day on the terraces I believe. Coventry had a team of seasoned pros around this time with the likes of Regis, Brian Kilcline and Steve Ogrizivic in goal. I think by then though our old friend David Speedie had somehow found himself at Liverpool?

The result meant that we'd bounced back from our only league defeat in the season to date with 10 points in the subsequent four games, the draw coming against eventual champions Arsenal. A great response which showed the growing resilience of this team, and we had picked up the happy habit of winning games by the odd goal. Next up was a trip to the pre-revamp Stamford Bridge.

If its the game I'm thinking of, David Speedie not only played, but managed to get sent off for abusing the ref.

This was my first season and weirdly I can remember the games pretty well. Ask me what happened 2 games ago and I cant remember a thing:confused:

bubbs11 30-11-2020 06:56 PM

PALACE 2. Bright. Gray
COVENTRY 1. Regis

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Palace: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Hodges. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. McGoldrick. Subs: Pardew (for Hodges). Thompson (unused)

Coventry: Ogrizovic. Edwards. Billing. Peake. Burrows. Butcher. Gynn. Speedie. Gallacher. Regis. Livingstone. Subs: McGrath. Smith.


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bubbs11 30-11-2020 07:08 PM

Remember this being a satisfying victory as the previous season we got our pants pulled down 0-1 at Selhurst, by a more savy Coventry side. This just showed how much we’d matured. Can’t recall too much about the game itself other than the cheer when Speedie got himself sent off for mouthing off. Terry Butcher had just taken over as player manager and was still without a win.

This game saw us move into third place. Also notable that this was Glyn Hodges final appearance for Palace ending a very short lived career with us with just seven appearances.

And also the week Stan Colleymore signed for us. One of those that would turn out to be a giant opportunity missed.

Bipe 30-11-2020 07:11 PM

I remember the Speedie sending off now.

No Thorn for us so was it Shaw at centre back and Salako left back, or did Thomas drop back into the defence as he had done the previous season?

Olympian2 30-11-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15522039)
Remember this being a satisfying victory as the previous season we got our pants pulled down 0-1 at Selhurst, by a more savy Coventry side. This just showed how much we’d matured.

God, I hated that game. Brian ‘Killer’ Kilcline in the fecking rain.

N Herts Eagle 30-11-2020 07:28 PM

Was a good win and by now it was getting clearer that this was potentially going to be a great season. The fear was we would fade away in the second half of the season. This was one of those games where the potential to drop points there are going to be a few games to come that I remember going with that thought in mind.
Geoff being called into the B team was another sign how recognition was more than just the Selhurst faithful.

bubbs11 30-11-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15522053)
I remember the Speedie sending off now.

No Thorn for us so was it Shaw at centre back and Salako left back, or did Thomas drop back into the defence as he had done the previous season?

Think you were right the first time. Pretty sure Thomas played in midfield for this one.

Golf Boy 30-11-2020 11:10 PM

My old man on the front row chucked Billing the ball for a throw in. When he turned round to throw it in the old man yelled “Thank You” berating him for having no manners.

Bipe 01-12-2020 07:40 AM

If I recall correctly Speedie had been chirrupping in the ears of the match officials throughout the game so it seemed like poetic justice when he finally got his red card for moaning once too often. A bit like Brian Horton for Hull in our 5-1 win 1986/87 season.

I also have bad memories in the equivalent fixture the previous season, a really poor performance and the only time I have ever left the ground a couple of minutes early to beat the rush back to the station.

As for Stan Collymore, I think one of Coppell's great strengths as a manager is that he was ruthless and decisive when it came to considering whether or not a player was going to cut the mustard. If not then he looked to move them on as quickly as possible. That mindset did Palace a lot more good than harm during his tenure, but with it you have to take the rough with the smooth and accept that sometimes players were let go who could have gone on to make a contribution. With the benefit of hindsight Collymore looked like an obvious gaffe but to be fair to Coppell Southend were hardly beating off competition from the league's elite clubs to secure Collymore's services for just £150k. It was still a gamble from them for an unproven player.

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 11:33 AM

I was at the game, yet now i think about it I don't remember much in the way of detail other than the fact in the warm up we were all on the Whitehorse looking at Nigel think how strange he looked without his tache.

You could have made a lot of money this season blindly backing us to win 2-1 in every game. Loved that scoreline!

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15522039)
And also the week Stan Colleymore signed for us. One of those that would turn out to be a giant opportunity missed.

Ceefax reported the signing as 'Stanley Collymore'

I expected him to be a 1950s throwback with Brylcreemed hair, hobnail boots and Stanly Matthews shorts, whilst walking to Selhurst with a whippet. :D

Read the whole report out loud in a Geoff Boycott Yorkshire accet for added effect.

When I saw what Collymore actually looked like I was disappointed that my image of him was completely wrong!

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 15522065)
God, I hated that game. Brian ‘Killer’ Kilcline in the fecking rain.

Shocker wasn't it. Only time I truly remember the entire crowd (or certainly a very large proportion) chanting 'The referees a wanker'.

Brian Hill was a complete twat that day and for all subsequent games he ever reffed I'd get a chant of 'Kill, Kill, Brian Hill!' going.

I can;t recall the record now but i seem to remember Hill being one of those refs that always killed us.

Latvian Eagle 01-12-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15522812)
I was at the game, yet now i think about it I don't remember much in the way of detail other than the fact in the warm up we were all on the Whitehorse looking at Nigel think how strange he looked without his tache.

You could have made a lot of money this season blindly backing us to win 2-1 in every game. Loved that scoreline!

I'm sure Nigel didn't shave his tache until much later in the season?

Olympian2 01-12-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15522817)
Ceefax reported the signing as 'Stanley Collymore'

I expected him to be a 1950s throwback with Brylcreemed hair, hobnail boots and Stanly Matthews shorts, whilst walking to Selhurst with a whippet. :D

Read the whole report out loud in a Geoff Boycott Yorkshire accet for added effect.

When I saw what Collymore actually looked like I was disappointed that my image of him was completely wrong!

Appreciate this is a little off the 90-91 topic but I used to watch the ressies at Plough Lane a lot the following season (91-92). Every game was the same for Collymore. He'd do feck all for the first 35 minutes then just before half time, he'd get the ball in the centre circle, beat about 5 players & score a wonder goal. He'd then be anonymous in the 2nd half too :p

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 15522843)
I'm sure Nigel didn't shave his tache until much later in the season?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_E7_yp7Ye8

Go to 2:29 of the video and Nigel versus Liverpool 30 Dec clearly without a tache. I know i said Coventry but without wishing to waste all day on this, this shows it was gone in December.

If anyone has a 1991 full season video, you'll see Coventry was the game.

Latvian Eagle 01-12-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15522954)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_E7_yp7Ye8

Go to 2:29 of the video and Nigel versus Liverpool 30 Dec clearly without a tache. I know i said Coventry but without wishing to waste all day on this, this shows it was gone in December.

If anyone has a 1991 full season video, you'll see Coventry was the game.

You could well be right and my memory is playing tricks. I must admit I thought it was around the time of Arsenal Away in February that it went but... :moo:

Mad Max 01-12-2020 04:28 PM

Regards Collymore,didn`t he contribute to his leaving by testing positive for whacky baccy ?

Olympian2 01-12-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 15523119)
Regards Collymore,didn`t he contribute to his leaving by testing positive for whacky baccy ?

That might have been Chris Armstrong.......

stevek 01-12-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15522812)
I was at the game, yet now i think about it I don't remember much in the way of detail other than the fact in the warm up we were all on the Whitehorse looking at Nigel think how strange he looked without his tache.

You could have made a lot of money this season blindly backing us to win 2-1 in every game. Loved that scoreline!

Occasionally they were 1-0, 3-2 or even 4-3. I don't think we won a home game by more than a single goal until the last game thrashing on Man Utd.

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15523291)
Occasionally they were 1-0, 3-2 or even 4-3. I don't think we won a home game by more than a single goal until the last game thrashing on Man Utd.

Correct. 20 wins in total. Only one by over 1 at home yet four wins (3-0 twice and two 2-0s) away from home by multiple goals

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 10:21 PM

Off the top of my head there were 7 x 2-1s were Chelsea, Leeds, Coventry, Sunderand, QPR, Derby, Southampton,

1-0s were Sheff Utd (twice), Luton, Forest, Spurs, Liverpool

4-3 Wimbledon

3-2 Southampton

Five 'big' wins

That's accounted for 19 of the wins. Cannot for the life of me remember the last one.

I've gone blank when it comes to Cov away, although pretty sure we didn't win it

ian king 01-12-2020 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15523418)
I've gone blank when it comes to Cov away, although pretty sure we didn't win it

Ah - our then 'bogey team, especially at Selhurst.

1-3 at Highfield Road in March 1991 including a Kilcline double.

SA Eagle 01-12-2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15523418)
Off the top of my head there were 7 x 2-1s were Chelsea, Leeds, Coventry, Sunderand, QPR, Derby, Southampton,

1-0s were Sheff Utd (twice), Luton, Forest, Spurs, Liverpool

4-3 Wimbledon

3-2 Southampton

Five 'big' wins

That's accounted for 19 of the wins. Cannot for the life of me remember the last one.

I've gone blank when it comes to Cov away, although pretty sure we didn't win it

Isn’t that 20 (you’ve got Sheff U “twice”)?

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SA Eagle (Post 15523495)
Isn’t that 20 (you’ve got Sheff U “twice”)?

YES!! Thank you for saving me going insane! Now I can sleep tonight! :D:lux:

Grim Reaper 01-12-2020 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ian king (Post 15523494)
Ah - our then 'bogey team, especially at Selhurst.

1-3 at Highfield Road in March 1991 including a Kilcline double.

Ah yes, start of March....ahead of a run of three 2-1 wins on the next three Saturdays. Come back to me now.

Latvian Eagle 01-12-2020 11:32 PM

We had a habit of doing that this season.

Beat Norwich, Coventry, Aston Villa, Sunderland :eek: and so on in one game, but quite often lost the return games.

Grim Reaper 02-12-2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 15523618)
We had a habit of doing that this season.

Beat Norwich, Coventry, Aston Villa, Sunderland :eek: and so on in one game, but quite often lost the return games.

Didn't beat Villa - 0-0 and 0-2

When you go through the resuts in alphabetical order it looks like we had as hit season based on the start of the list

Arsenal - 0-0 & 0-4
Aston Villa - 0-0 & 0-2

Man City in the '1 win each gang'

The only two teams to beat us at home all season (Norwich & City) each got revenge for us winning at their place

ian king 03-12-2020 12:03 AM

Guinness Six Championships in Manchester
 
Did any fans go?

Ran from Sunday 2nd December to Wednesday 5th December.

Palace sent a squad of eight players.

Grim Reaper 03-12-2020 05:21 PM

Think this was the tournament where an unknown Eric Cantona played on trial for Sheff Wednesday.

bubbs11 04-12-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 15522817)
Ceefax reported the signing as 'Stanley Collymore'

I expected him to be a 1950s throwback with Brylcreemed hair, hobnail boots and Stanly Matthews shorts, whilst walking to Selhurst with a whippet. :D

Read the whole report out loud in a Geoff Boycott Yorkshire accet for added effect.

When I saw what Collymore actually looked like I was disappointed that my image of him was completely wrong!

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PemboExpress 04-12-2020 04:21 PM

Only just re-caught up with this thread and many happy memories.

I think the Southampton away win, mentioned 3-4 pages back, was one of my best memories that season. We were excellent, particularly Thomas who was everywhere driving us on.

stevek 04-12-2020 04:22 PM

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Did he forget his shorts?

art malice 04-12-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15525863)
Did he forget his shorts?

Came straight from the car

Bipe 06-12-2020 12:18 PM

8 December 1992: Chelsea 2 Crystal Palace 1

I always hated going to Stamford Bridge before they refurbished it. That poxy away end, one of the ugliest grounds around with the huge stand engulfing everything else and we never seemed to get a result or even play well there. The only exception I think was 1991/92, possibly the late David Whyte's finest hour in a 1-1 draw.

Inevitably then, this turned into an afternoon of disappointment with the west London scum inflicting our second league defeat of the season. Andy Thorn popped up with a very rare goal for us. My memory is that we seemed to have run out of gas a little in this match and did not really perform, thus letting Chelsea off the hook. Certainly Wright and Bright had a rare off day up front, things didn't really click for them.

All things considered though, reaching the second week of December with only two defeats on the board was a remarkable position to be in and with some winnable games through to the new year there seemed no reason why we couldn't maintain our challenge near the top of the table.

Maiden Eagle 06-12-2020 05:17 PM

I didn't go to this one, but remember where I was - On a booze cruise going from Ramsgate (I think !?) to Dunkirk.
And it was pretty wild in the English Channel that day !
On the return journey, I heard some blokes talking
'Anyone, know any Football scores ?'
'All I know is that Chelsea won'
Which was a bit of a downer !

Grim Reaper 06-12-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maiden Eagle (Post 15529299)
I didn't go to this one, but remember where I was - On a booze cruise going from Ramsgate (I think !?) to Dunkirk.
And it was pretty wild in the English Channel that day !
On the return journey, I heard some blokes talking
'Anyone, know any Football scores ?'
'All I know is that Chelsea won'
Which was a bit of a downer !

Ha - everyone loved an Olau booze cruise from Ramsgate back in the day. Legendary trips of that era. Think they stopped in 94 due to the raucous nature of them.

No mobile phones back then so you had no clue about the football.

Had a similar thing when we played Barnsley in 93. Some dick told me we'd lost 2-0 which was a downer, only for me to discover we'd won 3-1 when I got home.

Grim Reaper 06-12-2020 09:51 PM

Chelsea way was the weirdest day for me. Maybe my all time weirdest Palace game.

My 18th birthday yet it was far from the extravaganza all my mates seemed to be having for the 18th's at the time.

Stopped off at my dad's in Gravesend and his present to me was a pair of his old flared work trousers from the 70s. He was a chain smoker so they wreaked of smoke as well.

Carried these in a bag with me the entire day.

Got to Victoria and headed for McDonalds. Got ripped off when the thing I ordered looked nothing like the picture (it looked like fries on the picture but those golden strips on the poster were slithers of grated cheese FFS).

Trudged back and got ambused by a God squad preacher. Long story short, 20 minutes later I was reading out a prayer in front of a gathered crowd and proclaiming my love for God. I was too polite to tell him to piss off and now I was in this ridiculous situation. At the end of it he asked for my name and address, so I gave him my mate's details!

Finally walked the last 100 yards to Victoria but there was an IRA bomb threat at the station so me and everyone else who wanted the District Line has to walk to Sloane Square.

It was snowing by this time so I was getting increasingly pissed off.

Finally reached the ground, open terrace, got steadily wetter as it rained/drizzled and sleeted during the game. Thorny's goal was great but after that we offered very little and went on to lose.

Terrible birthday got worse as we were then held in by the police on the open terrace.

When I eventually got back home my mum took one look at those flares and put them in the bin. To be fair, she did me a favour. I should have done it 10 hours earlier.

As for the God squad guy, he wrote to 'me' a week later and my mate proper guilt-tripped me as he told me the bloke's mum had had a fall and was touch and go for Christmas but that he was hoepful God would pull her through, which then made me feel bad for giving a false name and that her fall was somehow my fault.

I hate Chelsea away!

bubbs11 07-12-2020 07:44 AM

Brilliant story Grim. The preacher bit is comedy gold.

bubbs11 07-12-2020 08:11 AM

CHELSEA 2 Stuart. Shaw og
PALACE 1. Thorn

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PALACE: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Thorn. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. McGoldrick. Subs: Thompson (for McGoldrick). Pardew (used)

CHELSEA: Beasant. Hall. Monkou. Cundy. Le Saux. Bumstead. Stuart. Townsend. Wise. Dixon. Durie.


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bubbs11 07-12-2020 08:21 AM

Like the others, another depressing trip to the Bridge. I didn’t go that evening in ‘82, when we won 2–1, so every memory of going there up until then, was utter frustration. Hated the place.

This time we were given a glimmer of hope with an early lead and the way our season had gone, it seemed fitting that we’d finally put this hoodoo to bed. But like the Man U and Southampton cup game, we were just second best for some reason.

This Chelsea side were good but inconsistent, and had a habit of turning up when they felt like it, and they were the only side to beat Arsenal in the league that season. Unfortunately, they felt like it this particular freezing cold afternoon.

Olympian2 07-12-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15530069)
CHELSEA 2 Stuart. Shaw og
PALACE 1. Thorn

Att: 21,558

PALACE: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Thorn. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. McGoldrick. Subs: Thompson (for McGoldrick). Pardew (used)

CHELSEA: Beasant. Hall. Monkou. Cundy. Le Saux. Bumstead. Stuart. Townsend. Wise. Dixon. Durie.

I had to do some research about whether I was at this game. I remember seeing Shaw score an own goal at Stamford Bridge but didn’t remember Thorn scoring.

Turns out I wasn’t at this game but I was at the game two years later when Shaw again scored an own goal & Lee Sinnott got sent off. I was also at the game in between (91-92) when David Whyte was outstanding for us in a 1-1 draw. I had comps in the main stand courtesy of Le Saux who was a mate at the time.


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