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Baffled Bob 2 17-10-2021 01:44 PM

Looking at the trailer for that Beatles film that Peter Jackson has produced, how great would it be if that Man U 5-0 game could get that treatment?

N 19-10-2021 01:55 PM

Home v Charlton I'm sure I recognised that Millwall fan with the ginger hair and glasses from there documentary main stand near the start..

Stats74 14-11-2021 01:28 AM

If anyone missed it Palace v Man City (Nov 1980) was on the Big Match Revisited on Saturday morning on ITV4. It’s the feature game before Villa v Arsenal and Utd v Southampton. Doesn’t get a mention on the info bar/programme details. So it’s easy to miss.

eltron 14-11-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stats74 (Post 16102170)
If anyone missed it Palace v Man City (Nov 1980) was on the Big Match Revisited on Saturday morning on ITV4. Itís the feature game before Villa v Arsenal and Utd v Southampton. Doesnít get a mention on the info bar/programme details. So itís easy to miss.

Thanks for that heads up Stats!
History will say that we were crap that season.

But, I think we could go through each game and, playing a lot of "what ifs", we could have got out of trouble earlier. Maybe we wouldn't have had so many changes of manager and we may just have stayed up.

You may say I'm a dreamer....

Olympian2 14-11-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eltron (Post 16102482)
Thanks for that heads up Stats!
History will say that we were crap that season.

But, I think we could go through each game and, playing a lot of "what ifs", we could have got out of trouble earlier. Maybe we wouldn't have had so many changes of manager and we may just have stayed up.

You may say I'm a dreamer....

Blimey, thatís a lot of ĎWhat If?sí. We finished 16 points from safety & it was only 2 points for a win in those days. I was only 11 & I knew we were down in January! :p

eltron 15-11-2021 06:13 PM

I promise you - leave it with me and I will apply enough "what ifs" to turn our season around.

eltron 15-11-2021 06:17 PM

Man City's 2nd goal had a hand-ball in it that VAR would have chalked off.
We would have gone into the last few minutes 2-1 up - and would have no doubt, seen the game out.

That's 2 points to us, and 2 points off Man City.

As I say, leave it with me - I will rescue our 80-91 season.

Olympian2 15-11-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eltron (Post 16103835)
Man City's 2nd goal had a hand-ball in it that VAR would have chalked off.
We would have gone into the last few minutes 2-1 up - and would have no doubt, seen the game out.

That's 2 points to us, and 2 points off Man City.

As I say, leave it with me - I will rescue our 80-91 season.

Fantastic! Am really looking forward to reading how we were the moral League Champions in 80-81 :lux: :p

Olympian2 15-11-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eltron (Post 16103835)
Man City's 2nd goal had a hand-ball in it that VAR would have chalked off.
We would have gone into the last few minutes 2-1 up - and would have no doubt, seen the game out.

That's 2 points to us, and 2 points off Man City.

As I say, leave it with me - I will rescue our 80-91 season.

Coventry away & Allenís stanchion goal - thatís another easy 2 point gainÖ :D

Bizarro 15-11-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stats74 (Post 16102170)
If anyone missed it Palace v Man City (Nov 1980) was on the Big Match Revisited on Saturday morning on ITV4. Itís the feature game before Villa v Arsenal and Utd v Southampton. Doesnít get a mention on the info bar/programme details. So itís easy to miss.

My first game

eltron 15-11-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bizarro (Post 16103853)
My first game

Your first game - and we concede in 13 seconds!!!!

Bizarro 15-11-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eltron (Post 16103857)
Your first game - and we concede in 13 seconds!!!!

It all went wrong after I started going to games, took us about 5 years to recover!

Bipe 07-01-2022 07:21 PM

Well I've moved on to the early part of the 1980/81 season now, and next up for me was a show from September 1980.

The featured game was Arsenal vs Nottingham Forest, in truth hardly a thriller with Arsenal securing a 1-0 win. A few points of Palace interest though. As Brian Moore explained, it was Kenny Sansom's first Arsenal appearance in front of the ITV cameras and he put in a typically assured and buccaneering display, marauding forward regularly and linking well with Graham Rix on the left. In fact he should have scored after playing a 1-2 on the edge of the box but then poking just wide as Shilton rushed out to block. Due to an injury to Pat Jennings George Wood played in goal for Arsenal. Forest did not have a meaningful shot on target though throughout the extensive highlights so other than dealing with a couple of crosses and whatnot there was no real opportunity to assess Wood's credentials. It ended badly for him at Palace of course but he was actually a good servant for us through that transition period from Mullery to Coppell.

Finally, who should be refereeing the game but our old friend from the 1990 cup final Allan Gunn. He had his moment of controversy too, allowing the winning goal from a shot that fairly clearly did not cross the line even allowing for the more limited replays and camera angles in those days. Peter Shilton was not happy about it after the game so perhaps it was for the best. As an aside Steve Gatting played and was said to have been selected ahead of David Price, who would of course join us later in the season to form the dynamic 'pathetic shark' midfield alongside Brian Bason.

Next we moved on to Roker Park for Sunderland against Leeds in front of an absolutely jammed in crowd, one of those ones you used to get when the wide angle camera shots of the terrace show the crowd swaying around in waves like a wheat field in the breeze. Sunderland had started the season really well following promotion the previous year, briefly topping the nascent league table as we had done the year before. They ran out easy 4-1 winners here in front of a delirious crowd against an ageing Leeds side which was starting its slide towards second division mediocrity. A few of the old legends were still there but clearly past their best - Eddie Gray, Trevor Cherry - and another had just taken over as manager in Allan Clarke.

From a Palace perspective we had two future managers on the pitch. Sam Allardyce played football as he managed - ugly but effective - and he clogged away merrily in the Sunderland defence. On the other team we had Paul Hart, a much more cultured defender who found himself pushed up as an auxiliary striker as Leeds chased a game which was running away from them. The Sunderland ranks also included Stan Cummins who had a busy game, he always looked a good player for them and I was excited when he signed for us a few year later only to be underwhelmed by his contribution.

Finally on this game the last Sunderland goal was scored by their centre forward Alan Brown. This is the second time I have seen him play - and score - in these 'revisited' programmes and both times he's had an absolutely awesome game. He looks like the complete centre-forward - powerful and physical but also mobile, a good touch on the deck and a calm finisher. His goal in this game was a lovely first time finish into the bottom corner from the edge of the box after latching on to a through ball. I had no recollection of this guy from my football following at the time so I looked him up - could he have been one of the England greats whose career was cruelly cut short in its prime? It seems not, he was only 21 at the time of this game so must have been seen as promising but his goal tally for Sunderland was a less than prolific 23 in 103 games. He went on loan to Newcastle in 1981 which must have been an interesting experience but he did well there with 3 in 5. After that though his career faded away with spells at Shrewsbury (where he probably scored against us) and Doncaster before he did in fact have to retire early due to injury at the age at 26. He does share the same birthday as me though so there you go.

The final game was from the Hawthorns, where WBA came back from a goal down to beat Kevin Keegan's Southampton 2-1. The most interesting thing about this game was the weird camera angle, we were watching the action from a low pitchside position roughly in line with the edge of one of the penalty areas. Therefore any goalmouth action at the other end of the pitch gave you that authentic 'what the hell is going on down there' experience of standing on the Holmesdale unless the cameraman used his zoom facility.

Saints had a really attacking team in those days, somehow squeezing Keegan, Charlie George, Mick Channon AND the prolific Phil Boyer into the starting line-up. It looked like a kind of 4-2-1-3 formation with Keegan floating around behind the front three in which Channon played as an orthodox right-winger. A lot of work for the midfield duo of Nick Holmes and Graham Baker to get through.

davech 24-01-2022 06:57 PM

1976/77 starts today (ITV4 17.55 - times vary slightly)

Br*ght*n's 1-1 'victory' over us at the Gallstone at the start of October features tomorrow 17.50.

This was of course the season it all kicked off. We played the weeds 5 times (including the 3 cup games) that season. The weeds won precisely none :D

Our promotion season, so hopefully we will feature quite a bit.

Carlise Few 24-01-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by davech (Post 16232188)
1976/77 starts today (ITV4 17.55 - times vary slightly)

Br*ght*n's 1-1 'victory' over us at the Gallstone at the start of October features tomorrow 17.50.

This was of course the season it all kicked off. We played the weeds 5 times (including the 3 cup games) that season. The weeds won precisely none :D

Our promotion season, so hopefully we will feature quite a bit.

Thanks for prompt


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