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SA Eagle 21-05-2022 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16440163)
That wasnít the game when we wore a quite un-Palace red shirt & white shorts, was it? Did Vince score that goal? Iím struggling nowÖ :p

Doubt it, Wrexham wore red didn't they?

Olympian2 21-05-2022 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SA Eagle (Post 16440178)
Doubt it, Wrexham wore red didn't they?

Oh yeah, of course! :clown: (me, not you!)

So where, around that time, did we wear that horrible red away shirt? Grimsby? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?

SA Eagle 21-05-2022 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16440180)
Oh yeah, of course! :clown: (me, not you!)

So where, around that time, did we wear that horrible red away shirt? Grimsby? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?

Assuming we were still wearing the white sash, then places like Grimsby, Fulham, Derby would be favourite?

monkey 22-05-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16440163)
That wasnít the game when we wore a quite un-Palace red shirt & white shorts, was it? Did Vince score that goal? Iím struggling nowÖ :p

No, I went to derby away and we wore that kit. We wore the sky blue with red sash at Wrexham and Steve Lovell scored the winner, which has always stuck in my memory because it was our first away win for 18 months.

monkey 22-05-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16440180)
Oh yeah, of course! :clown: (me, not you!)

So where, around that time, did we wear that horrible red away shirt? Grimsby? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?

Definitely Derby, because I was there, my one and only trip to the old baseball ground, I think this wouldíve been 82-83 season 1-1 or 1-0 defeat, canít remember now

Olympian2 22-05-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by monkey (Post 16440543)
Definitely Derby, because I was there, my one and only trip to the old baseball ground, I think this wouldíve been 82-83 season 1-1 or 1-0 defeat, canít remember now

Ha, cheers monkey. I'm sure (well, as sure as I can be with a foggy memory of 40 years ago) we also won 1-0 in that kit away somewhere. I'd have to dig out some old programmes & see if I can identify that game. Shouldn't take me long, we didn't win away much in those days :p

monkey 22-05-2022 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16440681)
Ha, cheers monkey. I'm sure (well, as sure as I can be with a foggy memory of 40 years ago) we also won 1-0 in that kit away somewhere. I'd have to dig out some old programmes & see if I can identify that game. Shouldn't take me long, we didn't win away much in those days :p

We certainly didn’t win many, which was a shame because it was my best era for travelling away, I didn’t miss many. We seemed to lose plenty 1-0 I know that. :wallbash:

You could be right about winning in that kit somewhere though,possibly Leicester? Mabbutt scored the winner, I know I was there, but not 100% sure it was that kit

JJ 23-05-2022 01:43 AM

I might be very badly misremembering this (and I wasn't even at the game), but didn't we wear the plain red shirt and black shorts away at Peterborough one evening?

ElwissAtMemphis 23-05-2022 05:10 PM

Our away record when we wore the adidas sash as abysmal which is why I fail to understand the fond nostalgia that a lot of people seem to have for the sky blue shirt with red sash. Notwithstanding the fact that it looked horrible, I'm pretty sure we never won a match wearing it. We've discussed this before and I think the only possibility we could come up with was a league cup win at Bolton.

Olympian2 23-05-2022 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ElwissAtMemphis (Post 16443363)
Our away record when we wore the adidas sash as abysmal which is why I fail to understand the fond nostalgia that a lot of people seem to have for the sky blue shirt with red sash. Notwithstanding the fact that it looked horrible, I'm pretty sure we never won a match wearing it. We've discussed this before and I think the only possibility we could come up with was a league cup win at Bolton.

I'm not sure that's the case. It's pretty cool, IMHO.

monkey 23-05-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ElwissAtMemphis (Post 16443363)
Our away record when we wore the adidas sash as abysmal which is why I fail to understand the fond nostalgia that a lot of people seem to have for the sky blue shirt with red sash. Notwithstanding the fact that it looked horrible, I'm pretty sure we never won a match wearing it. We've discussed this before and I think the only possibility we could come up with was a league cup win at Bolton.

I loved the kit to be honest despite our terrible away record at that time. I think itís the memory of winning at Wrexham wearing it that helps.

Iím sure we wore it at orient away on a Sunday morning 0-0 draw a few days after we beat them in the cup wearing red and blue, which was strange

wrightchipvcfc 23-05-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by monkey (Post 16440539)
No, I went to derby away and we wore that kit. We wore the sky blue with red sash at Wrexham and Steve Lovell scored the winner, which has always stuck in my memory because it was our first away win for 18 months.

Remember how Lovell and us fans celebrated that goal at Wrexham got pictures from that season somewhere in loft can't remember the kit tho at a guess I would say the blue with red stripe

ElwissAtMemphis 23-05-2022 08:39 PM

I wasn't there but if we played a side wearing dark shirts and white shorts we routinely wore the white sash shirt with blue shorts. There's a win a Grimsby that's a definite maybe, but as already stated our away support numbered in the dozens in those days so eye witnesses will be pretty thin on the ground.

But I still find the nostalgia for a kit that we barely mustered a couple of points in perplexing.

wrightchipvcfc 23-05-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ElwissAtMemphis (Post 16443523)
I wasn't there but if we played a side wearing dark shirts and white shorts we routinely wore the white sash shirt with blue shorts. There's a win a Grimsby that's a definite maybe, but as already stated our away support numbered in the dozens in those days so eye witnesses will be pretty thin on the ground.

But I still find the nostalgia for a kit that we barely mustered a couple of points in perplexing.

Remember we had a special train that day Chris p and Gildo times must have been a few hundred of us on it would have been a coach or two as well

Stuart Austen 23-05-2022 10:24 PM

Bolton at LB? Do they mean David Boulter?

CP Satellite 23-05-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Austen (Post 16443594)
Bolton at LB? Do they mean David Boulter?


Boulter - looked a decent player for a while, then completely faded away.



https://i.ibb.co/Tw0WdDs/CA7-E2931-C...8-FDD298-B.jpg

wrightchipvcfc 23-05-2022 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ElwissAtMemphis (Post 16443523)
I wasn't there but if we played a side wearing dark shirts and white shorts we routinely wore the white sash shirt with blue shorts. There's a win a Grimsby that's a definite maybe, but as already stated our away support numbered in the dozens in those days so eye witnesses will be pretty thin on the ground.

But I still find the nostalgia for a kit that we barely mustered a couple of points in perplexing.

Just see a game at charlton that season same colours as Wrexham and your right they wore the white top and blue shorts didn't remember jerry Murphy getting sent off that day at charlton

Carlise Few 24-05-2022 09:42 AM

agreed - keeping Hilaire out of the team

Carlise Few 24-05-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyda (Post 16439195)
That must have been Neil Smillie's best ever performance for us.

correction! - Agreed - keeping Hilaire out of the team

Carlise Few 24-05-2022 09:45 AM

Also forgot that Jim Cannon was available for transfer - anyone remember why?

wrightchipvcfc 24-05-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlise Few (Post 16444028)
Also forgot that Jim Cannon was available for transfer - anyone remember why?

Maybe he was on high wages from league 1 days

monkey 24-05-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wrightchipvcfc (Post 16443516)
Remember how Lovell and us fans celebrated that goal at Wrexham got pictures from that season somewhere in loft can't remember the kit tho at a guess I would say the blue with red stripe

We did go a bit mental, having not won away for 18 months and after the gauntlet of angry Welshman we had to get through on the way from the station before the game, it was a special moment.

I always remember it well because Lovell jumped on the fence in front of us when he scored and I just got my hand away in time!!:D

Mike Elwiss 25-05-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CP Satellite (Post 16443616)
Boulter - looked a decent player for a while, then completely faded away.



https://i.ibb.co/Tw0WdDs/CA7-E2931-C...8-FDD298-B.jpg

He was working as a security Guard at my office in Kings Cross back in the late 80's

Polak 21-09-2022 09:29 PM

Saturday morning on ITV4 at 11:35 - Palace v Charlton from 1st December 1974.

monkey 22-09-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak (Post 16659496)
Saturday morning on ITV4 at 11:35 - Palace v Charlton from 1st December 1974.

Iíve seen this one so many times now, but Iíll watch it again because that season was my first, I didnít go to this game, but my first was a couple of months later.

It always seems funny now seeing El Tel actually playing in the red and blue rather than being our manager

monkey 22-09-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CP Satellite (Post 16443616)
Boulter - looked a decent player for a while, then completely faded away.



https://i.ibb.co/Tw0WdDs/CA7-E2931-C...8-FDD298-B.jpg

To be fair, he had one heck of a job replacing King Kenny

Billy Rhino 24-09-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak (Post 16659496)
Saturday morning on ITV4 at 11:35 - Palace v Charlton from 1st December 1974.

On now

art malice 24-09-2022 12:55 PM

Loads of Palace clapping that Charlton goal

Custard Pie 24-09-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by art malice (Post 16664247)
Loads of Palace clapping that Charlton goal

Yep. Different times indeed.

Billy Rhino 24-09-2022 03:15 PM

Bizarre, was a very good goal though.

Peter Taylor's crossing was superb. Overall defending and fitness levels were so poor compared to these days.

Gooders 25-09-2022 04:55 PM

Watching this weekend was a reminder of how different those times were - when people like Harry Cripps and Mike Bailey could make it as professional footballers.

pots1970 25-09-2022 05:04 PM

It was also a reminder of just how awful the standard of tactics were, it really was just lump it up front asap, and that was with big mal as manager who was a progressive manager, and yet we would attend week after week, mental.

TenEmBee 25-09-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pots1970 (Post 16664942)
It was also a reminder of just how awful the standard of tactics were, it really was just lump it up front asap, and that was with big mal as manager who was a progressive manager, and yet we would attend week after week, mental.

Can you imagine the prima donnas of today trying to play on that pitch

Gooders 25-09-2022 05:52 PM

Loved Brian Moore's interview with Big Mal.

Mal: "I was talking to Bertie Mee and if anyone knows about injuries he does - he says we should just leave the injured player lying on the pitch and play on - he'll soon get up when he realises the match is continuing".

This was after a pretty nasty clash of heads!

The more I watch the old games, the more my rose tinted glasses fade.

wrightchipvcfc 05-10-2022 08:37 PM

Qpr v palace fa cup 82 on itv 4 at 5 55 on Friday

Ian Hart 05-10-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wrightchipvcfc (Post 16681712)
Qpr v palace fa cup 82 on itv 4 at 5 55 on Friday

Didn't they show that one a few months back? Is it the one we lost 0-1, to a late Clive Allen goal?

Or am I getting two matches confused?

wrightchipvcfc 05-10-2022 11:05 PM

Think there all repeated over and over again the charlton game had been on few times

ElwissAtMemphis 05-10-2022 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CP Satellite (Post 16443616)
Boulter - looked a decent player for a while, then completely faded away.



https://i.ibb.co/Tw0WdDs/CA7-E2931-C...8-FDD298-B.jpg

He posted here once, ironically looking for old footage from the early 80's when he would have been playing ...

https://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157934

Ian Hart 06-10-2022 12:19 AM

Thanks Elwiss

I will avoid using the word "r*de". But bit of a pity he didn't respond to any of the posts

wrightchipvcfc 07-10-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CP Satellite (Post 16443616)
Boulter - looked a decent player for a while, then completely faded away.



https://i.ibb.co/Tw0WdDs/CA7-E2931-C...8-FDD298-B.jpg

Watching boulter play against qpr made me think there must be hundreds of men around the country who were pro footballers who played in big games then never realy made it just thinking of palace as well as
Boulter
Stephen leahy
Grant watts
Rory ginty
Kevin dare

Bipe 09-10-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wrightchipvcfc (Post 16684405)
Watching boulter play against qpr made me think there must be hundreds of men around the country who were pro footballers who played in big games then never realy made it just thinking of palace as well as
Boulter
Stephen leahy
Grant watts
Rory ginty
Kevin dare

Add Gary Goodchild to that list, if memory serves he featured in the ill-fated series of FA Cup games with Swansea but little else.

Anyway these nostalgia fests have continued to rack up on my planner, waiting for me to find the time to catch up. Last night presented the perfect opportunity with my wife and daughter out at the local am-dram production and our son happily ensconced in a FIFA XBox marathon sesh with his mates. Just what Saturday nights were made for when you hit middle age, I poured myself a large whisky and settled down.

The programme I picked at random from the recorded selection was FA Cup fourth round day in January 1981. Everton vs Liverpool was the feature game, the Toffees gaining a famous 2-1 win against their all-conquering neighbours. A match in which no quarter was asked or given, tackles flying in all over the place and Souness would have been sent off at least twice these days but instead received only a booking. This was during the period when for some reason the match officials had stopped using red and yellow cards, so there was an ongoing sense of confusion as to whether or not players had actually been booked - after Souness had flown into his latest horror tackle the commentator Gerald Sinstadt remarked 'and now we can find out whether or not he was booked earlier, because if he had he will surely now be sent off'. One of the Everton players took out Jimmy Case on the touchline with a karate kick well after the ball had gone, Case didn't even flinch, just picked himself up and gave the offender a friendly ruffle of the hair.

But the game which really caught my attention was Barnsley versus Enfield. Barnsley were apparently flying high in the old third division on the back of just one defeat in 23 games whereas Enfield of the 'Isthmian League' were the only surviving non-league club in the competition. Note that a massive crowd of 24,000 turned out for this one, another reminder that back then the FA Cup was king and would attract much bigger crowds than the league.

Enfield's goalkeeper was apparently just 5'6'' tall, again wouldn't happen these days but he had a really good game particularly on crosses, where he had no qualms whatsoever about coming out to athletically pluck the ball off the heads of the Barnsley players - always catching, never punching.

Enfield played really well, hitting the inside of the post and having two goals disallowed for offside/ The second was fair enough but the first one was a fine illustration as to how some rule changes since those days are definitely for the better. During a goalmouth scramble one of the Enfield players tried to poke the ball home from close range but was blocked by the goalie, the player falling over the onrushing goalie to end up in a crumpled heap on the line by the post. Another Enfield player got to the rebound and stroked it home into the opposite corner, whereupon the referee immediately gave offside against the first player - who was behind the goalie let's not forget, so in no way interfering with play. Looking at it now it seems an absolutely crazy decision but no-one batted an eyelid, it was just how the rules were back then.

Barnsley led 1-0 for much of the game but Enfield earned a well-deserved replay with a late equaliser, an exciting moment even watching 40-odd years later without knowing how the game would pan out.

Barnsley had a couple of important Palace connections covering the sublime and ridiculous. First off Ian Evans was partnering Mick McCarthy in the heart of their defence, he had gone there to rebuild his career after getting crocked by George Best. He didn't have the best of games if truth be told, getting the run around from a grizzled, bearded Enfield target man who eventually nabbed the equaliser.

And then on the ridiculous front - who was leading the line for Barnsley but dear old Trevor Aylott. In his younger days back then and a bit more mobile than I remembered. Inevitably the bastard scored, albeit a tap-in to an empty net after a lovely free-kick had come back off the inside of the post with the goalie stranded. I perked up later on when he made an absolute mess of a straightforward header six yards out, mistiming it badly and screwing the ball horribly wide. That was more like it.

Anyway all good fun again, it's always very evocative to watch the football of yesteryear and wonder where all the time went.

Dorking .Eagle 09-10-2022 11:08 PM

It will be interesting to think what we would find amusing in 30 years time from todays football highlights shows?!

We won't have rotten muddy cabbage patch pitches to look back at, but I suspect we will be nostalgic seeing our wooden Main Stand again, be agog at how much hard work the refs made of VAR, and maybe also laugh at all the shithousery tactics (long since outlawed in the 2050s!) to close out winning positions.


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