Mass shooting in the US

[TopKnot]

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle

Yeah but they’ve doubled up their thought and prayers so that’s ok.

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it almost feels like they are taking the piss.

[hong_kong_hg]

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[Reps AJ]

Originally Posted by hong_kong_hg

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(I know it's The Onion)

One bloke had a bomb in his shoe and airline security changed worldwide overnight.

Still, I bet there are Americans using their First Amendment right to free speech to insist you can't change the Constitution to remove their Second Amendment right to bear arms.

[Maidstoned Eagle]

Originally Posted by Reps AJ

18 - old enough to buy two AR-style rifles and ammunition

18 - not old enough to buy a pint

In Texas there's no age limit afaik, and definitely no age limit for "long guns" bought from unlicensed dealers at gun fairs.

[Blind_Eagle]

Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle

In Texas there's no age limit afaik, and definitely no age limit for "long guns" bought from unlicensed dealers at gun fairs.

I’m not sure you’re right Pete, from their legislation:-

(2) intentionally or knowingly sells, rents, leases, or gives or offers to sell, rent, lease, or give to any child younger than 18 years of age any firearm, club, or location-restricted knife;

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[hong_kong_hg]

Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle

In Texas there's no age limit afaik, and definitely no age limit for "long guns" bought from unlicensed dealers at gun fairs.

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I mean, sure, gun control laws would do absolutely nothing to prevent unfortunate gun massacres, yet both the Buffalo and Uvalde mass murderers waited until their 18th birthdays to legally buy AR-15s. It's just, you know, a totally weird coincidence.

[hong_kong_hg]

Here's To view the link you have to Register or Login laying out what To view the link you have to Register or Login about the GOP's worldview: The purpose of government (i.e. the GOP) is to defend "families and values" (the natural order of things i.e. white men on top) against the enemy of "wokeness" and "CRT", that is the flattening of hierarchies in the name of democracy, equality, liberty and justice for all. When he says these democratic values are to blame for the mass murder event he means literally the shooter was forced to murder because of the clear and present threat to white supremacy.

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[Hedgehog]

I should probably post this in the Trump thread, but here seems as good.

We were in The Bahamas the last week (Sorry Selhurst Celtic) and a very high percentage of the guest at the resort were from the "South", i.e. Georgia, Texas, Carolina's, Mississippi etc.. The arrogance and social retardness of many of these folks was palatable. They wear their "Southerness" as a badge of honor, and woe betide anyone who questions their beliefs. My wife had one particular run-in with a guy from Georgia over COVID and Dr. Fauci, and he was a bloody pilot!

We got some snide comments when saying we came from California (see COVID denier above), and were talking to a couple from Long Island New York who told us when the told some people they were from New York the people walked off and wouldn't talk to them.

We were really getting the feeling it is becoming us against them, and question where this is going.

As recent history has shown, California and New York are not exempt from mass shootings, but as gun wielding states we are not in the same league as those states in the South.

[hong_kong_hg]

Enlightening, if sad, insight Bob.

[joyce the voice]

Originally Posted by Hedgehog

I should probably post this in the Trump thread, but here seems as good.

We were in The Bahamas the last week (Sorry Selhurst Celtic) and a very high percentage of the guest at the resort were from the "South", i.e. Georgia, Texas, Carolina's, Mississippi etc.. The arrogance and social retardness of many of these folks was palatable. They wear their "Southerness" as a badge of honor, and wow be tide anyone who questions their beliefs. My wife had one particular run-in with a guy from Georgia over COVID and Dr. Fauci, and he was a bloody pilot!

We got some snide comments when saying we came from California (see COVID denier above), and were talking to a couple from Long Island New York who told us when the told some people they were from New York the people walked off and wouldn't talk to them.

We were really getting the feeling it is becoming us against them, and question where this is going.

As recent history has shown, California and New York are not exempt from mass shootings, but as gun wielding states we are not in the same league as those states in the South.

Blimey.

After thirty years living here I really want to leave. I loved America when I was growing up; I teach American literature; I love American comedy, and films, and music (jazz in particular). Almost all my friends are American. And yet, as I get older, I become more and more afraid that I'm living in some modern-day version of Germany in the early 1930s. Maybe I am being completely alarmist. New England doesn't feel very different from how it used to feel. But the country as a whole seems like it's heading toward a very dark place.

[hong_kong_hg]

Originally Posted by joyce the voice

Blimey.

After thirty years living here I really want to leave. I loved America when I was growing up; I teach American literature; I love American comedy, and films, and music (jazz in particular). Almost all my friends are American. And yet, as I get older, I become more and more afraid that I'm living in some modern-day version of Germany in the early 1930s. Maybe I am being completely alarmist. New England doesn't feel very different from how it used to feel. But the country as a whole seems like it's heading toward a very dark place.

Also very sad but enlightening insight, thank you.

[adrenalin john]

Originally Posted by joyce the voice

Blimey.

After thirty years living here I really want to leave. I loved America when I was growing up; I teach American literature; I love American comedy, and films, and music (jazz in particular). Almost all my friends are American. And yet, as I get older, I become more and more afraid that I'm living in some modern-day version of Germany in the early 1930s. Maybe I am being completely alarmist. New England doesn't feel very different from how it used to feel. But the country as a whole seems like it's heading toward a very dark place.

Understandable. Sadly the UK, or rather Royal Brexitia as it is now, is little better and we no longer have the right, unlike Johnson's Dad and Farage's kids, to take refuge in 27 other European countries.

[Golf Boy]

Originally Posted by Hedgehog

I should probably post this in the Trump thread, but here seems as good.

We were in The Bahamas the last week (Sorry Selhurst Celtic) and a very high percentage of the guest at the resort were from the "South", i.e. Georgia, Texas, Carolina's, Mississippi etc.. The arrogance and social retardness of many of these folks was palatable. They wear their "Southerness" as a badge of honor, and wow be tide anyone who questions their beliefs. My wife had one particular run-in with a guy from Georgia over COVID and Dr. Fauci, and he was a bloody pilot!

We got some snide comments when saying we came from California (see COVID denier above), and were talking to a couple from Long Island New York who told us when the told some people they were from New York the people walked off and wouldn't talk to them.

We were really getting the feeling it is becoming us against them, and question where this is going.

As recent history has shown, California and New York are not exempt from mass shootings, but as gun wielding states we are not in the same league as those states in the South.

Can California ban guns on it’s own?

[AJ]

Originally Posted by Hedgehog

I should probably post this in the Trump thread, but here seems as good.

We were in The Bahamas the last week (Sorry Selhurst Celtic) and a very high percentage of the guest at the resort were from the "South", i.e. Georgia, Texas, Carolina's, Mississippi etc.. The arrogance and social retardness of many of these folks was palatable. They wear their "Southerness" as a badge of honor, and wow be tide anyone who questions their beliefs. My wife had one particular run-in with a guy from Georgia over COVID and Dr. Fauci, and he was a bloody pilot!

We got some snide comments when saying we came from California (see COVID denier above), and were talking to a couple from Long Island New York who told us when the told some people they were from New York the people walked off and wouldn't talk to them.

We were really getting the feeling it is becoming us against them, and question where this is going.

As recent history has shown, California and New York are not exempt from mass shootings, but as gun wielding states we are not in the same league as those states in the South.

I live in the Carolina's and you won't find many places without small minded views. Luckily, there are quite a few people not like that, but then there are a lot who are. Most people I get on with around here are usually from somewhere else!

[Funk Butter]

Originally Posted by Golf Boy

Can California ban guns on it’s own?

Well, a state would never be able to ban guns outright as that would go straight to the Supreme Court and even if it was a bunch of Biden appointees would get shut down. But California (along with Hawaii) have the strictest gun laws.

[AJ]

Originally Posted by Funk Butter

Well, a state would never be able to ban guns outright as that would go straight to the Supreme Court and even if it was a bunch of Biden appointees would get shut down. But California (along with Hawaii) have the strictest gun laws.

Guns used to be illegal is Washington DC but the Supreme Court overturned that ban.

[wavey]

Originally Posted by AJ

Guns used to be illegal is Washington DC but the Supreme Court overturned that ban.

Indeed even in liberal states the direction of gun control is in the wrong direction. Sometime this summer New York is likely to relax its gun laws rather than tighten them thanks to the Supreme Court…

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[Hedgehog]

Originally Posted by Golf Boy

Can California ban guns on it’s own?

I'll have to try and find the details, but recently California tried to bring in some additional stricter laws about gun ownership, and the California Supreme Court (not the top guys) overturned it.

[JAS78]

The problem now would be any US state with even a whiff of a gun sales ban would drive gun sales up 10 fold

Will already take decades of gun amnesties to remove the current weapons

[AJ]

Originally Posted by JAS78

The problem now would be any US state with even a whiff of a gun sales ban would drive gun sales up 10 fold

Will already take decades of gun amnesties to remove the current weapons

There is no desire for an amnesty. The best we can hope for is a ban, restriction or vetting on assault weapons.