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1990/91. League scorers

Wright 15
Bright 9
Thomas 6
Salako. 6
Gray. 4
Young. 3
Thompson. 1
Thorn. 1
Humphrey. 1
Shaw. 1
Pardew. 1
Barber. 1




As someone pointed out earlier in the thread that these figures bare out, is that there really wasn’t enough goals in this team outside of Wright and Bright to realistically win the title that season. One of our main wingers, McGoldrick, didn’t even register a goal all season.

Bright also had one of his usual long stints without a goal, not scoring after January. This was a constant throughout his Palace career where he’d go on a great streaky run of scoring then could go ages without.

Another strange anomaly was that Wright, after his superb lobbed goal in our fist home game of the season against Chelsea, never scored another home goal until Derby in mid-March.

Over the years when you look back at this side and wonder what it would’ve needed to have actually stood a strong chance of winning the title, you would think 2 or 3 players with more goals in them. A Platt in midfield, Limpar out wide and a set piece expert like Dorigo at full back always spring to my mind.

Platt by that stage was out of our league, but was one of Noades’s big regrets, as when we bought Thomas from Crewe, Dario Gradi told Noades that Platt was the next to be picked up, but we didn’t go back for him.


As a contrast, here are the title winners Arsenal’s goal scorers that season:

Smith. 22
Merson 13
Limpar 11
Campbell 9
Dixon 5
Davis 3
Groves 3
Thomas 2
Rocastle 2
O’Leary 1
Adams 1

Kevin Campbell only started 15 that season with 7 off the bench and managed to score as many as Bright. I suppose that was another component our side lacked, was a striker to come off the bench and contribute to the goals when it wasn’t happening for Bright and Wright. Collymore would’ve been the ideal man, but slightly too early for him.


Liverpool’s goal scoring stats

Barnes 16
Rush. 16
Beardsley 11
Molby 9
Houghton 7
Speedie 6
Rosenthal 5
Nicol 3
Whelan 1
Gillespie 1


Interesting also to look at Leeds goal scoring stats for the following season when they won the league. It has often been said by fans and players alike, that if we added 2 or 3 decent players to our 90/91 squad, we could’ve been the ones taking the title that following season. These stats kind of concur with that thought. We were really not far away from doing the unbelievable.


Leeds 91/92

Lee Chapman 16
Rod Wallace 11
Steve Hodge 7
Gary Speed 6
Mel Sterland 6
Gary McAllister 5
Gordon Strachan 4
Tony Dorigo 3
Eric Cantona 3
David Batty 2
Carl Shutt 2
Chris Fairclough 2
Jon Newsome 2
Chris Whyte 1
Mike Whitlow 1
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I didn't realise Brighty scored that few in the League ! He must have scored quite
a few in the League and ZDS Cups,then ? He got a hat trick
against Southend in the League Cup, right ?
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1990/91. League scorers

Wright 15
Bright 9
Thomas 6
Salako. 6
Gray. 4
Young. 3
Thompson. 1
Thorn. 1
Humphrey. 1
Shaw. 1
Pardew. 1
Barber. 1




As someone pointed out earlier in the thread that these figures bare out, is that there really wasn’t enough goals in this team outside of Wright and Bright to realistically win the title that season. One of our main wingers, McGoldrick, didn’t even register a goal all season.

Bright also had one of his usual long stints without a goal, not scoring after January. This was a constant throughout his Palace career where he’d go on a great streaky run of scoring then could go ages without.

Another strange anomaly was that Wright, after his superb lobbed goal in our fist home game of the season against Chelsea, never scored another home goal until Derby in mid-March.

Over the years when you look back at this side and wonder what it would’ve needed to have actually stood a strong chance of winning the title, you would think 2 or 3 players with more goals in them. A Platt in midfield, Limpar out wide and a set piece expert like Dorigo at full back always spring to my mind.

Platt by that stage was out of our league, but was one of Noades’s big regrets, as when we bought Thomas from Crewe, Dario Gradi told Noades that Platt was the next to be picked up, but we didn’t go back for him.


As a contrast, here are the title winners Arsenal’s goal scorers that season:

Smith. 22
Merson 13
Limpar 11
Campbell 9
Dixon 5
Davis 3
Groves 3
Thomas 2
Rocastle 2
O’Leary 1
Adams 1

Kevin Campbell only started 15 that season with 7 off the bench and managed to score as many as Bright. I suppose that was another component our side lacked, was a striker to come off the bench and contribute to the goals when it wasn’t happening for Bright and Wright. Collymore would’ve been the ideal man, but slightly too early for him.


Liverpool’s goal scoring stats

Barnes 16
Rush. 16
Beardsley 11
Molby 9
Houghton 7
Speedie 6
Rosenthal 5
Nicol 3
Whelan 1
Gillespie 1


Interesting also to look at Leeds goal scoring stats for the following season when they won the league. It has often been said by fans and players alike, that if we added 2 or 3 decent players to our 90/91 squad, we could’ve been the ones taking the title that following season. These stats kind of concur with that thought. We were really not far away from doing the unbelievable.


Leeds 91/92

Lee Chapman 16
Rod Wallace 11
Steve Hodge 7
Gary Speed 6
Mel Sterland 6
Gary McAllister 5
Gordon Strachan 4
Tony Dorigo 3
Eric Cantona 3
David Batty 2
Carl Shutt 2
Chris Fairclough 2
Jon Newsome 2
Chris Whyte 1
Mike Whitlow 1
Those Arsenal figures show why I was surprised (and well as devastated) that they went for Wright the following season - I thought he might struggle to get into their team. What actually happened, though, was Arsenal turned themselves into a rich man's version of 1990-91 Palace, and - whilst Wright himself may have been a success for them - they were actually a poorer team all round with him than they had been before.
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I didn't realise Brighty scored that few in the League ! He must have scored quite
a few in the League and ZDS Cups,then ? He got a hat trick
against Southend in the League Cup, right ?
They both did.
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I didn't realise Brighty scored that few in the League ! He must have scored quite
a few in the League and ZDS Cups,then ? He got a hat trick
against Southend in the League Cup, right ?
Yes.


Cup goal scorers 90/91

Wright 10
Bright 6
Salako 4
Thomas 2
Thompson 1
Hodges 1
Young 1
Gray 1
McGoldrick 1
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Glyn Hodges scored more Cup goals in two months at Selhurst, than Palace have managed since March 2019!

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Over the years when you look back at this side and wonder what it would’ve needed to have actually stood a strong chance of winning the title, you would think 2 or 3 players with more goals in them. A Platt in midfield, Limpar out wide and a set piece expert like Dorigo at full back always spring to my mind.
All good names but there were ones we were genuinely linked with that could have made that difference.

Defender Gary Charles - part of the England set up at that point

Mark Walters, would have been great on the opposite flank from Salako

Rod Wallace. Another we were linked with, although, I admit he wouldn't necessarily have got in that starting XI as things were set up in 1991

For me, it'll always be the UEFUA U-turn that killed us. Had Palace been in Europe in 1991-92, Wright would have had no reason to leave, or at least not at the time he left in September. Palace would have made to at least the UEFA Cup QF as Liverpool did and that would have taken us into spring. Andy Gray's own personal tailspin after his disastrous England outing would probably never have happened had his trusted core been around him.

We can speculate of course, but that was the killer for me
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