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Old 12-06-2021, 05:36 PM
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What are you blathering about? I said that just because someone from a minority group says something in support of the far right doesnít make the far right viewpoint any better. That doesnít therefore follow on to saying that if someone from a minority group says something in support of an issue it can never be correct or not correct. In your desperation to smear youíre being a complete plonker.

Then you blather on with your usual incoherent rubbish when trying to twist things in order to undermine anti racist movements and political points you donít agree with.

Your posts are worthless rubbish. It isnít just history that isnít your strong point nothing is as you wail Pinochet the saviour.

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So you maintain the view those you quoted were correct. Which makes interesting reading for me as many have since been expelled from Labour for antisemitism.

The danger is we end up where we are today where Jews are escorted to synagogues by police for there own protection. Where in London Golders Green as protests in London regarding Palestine are held. How do I know my son was there. If you think i will stop calling you out stop calling antisemitism out be it Human Rights Group to individuals then think again.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:41 PM
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So you maintain the view those you quoted were correct. Which makes interesting reading for me as many have since been expelled from Labour for antisemitism.

The danger is we end up where we are today where Jews are escorted to synagogues by police for there own protection. Where in London Golders Green as protests in London regarding Palestine are held. How do I know my son was there. If you think i will stop calling you out stop calling antisemitism out be it Human Rights Group to individuals then think again.
You would have to give me each individual quote, the context etc for me to know what I now think. But please don’t bother it would only be your usual semantics and smears.

You are rightly concerned about one type of racism but undermine the struggle against other forms. And you’ll keep doing that I know, don’t need to think again.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:56 PM
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You would have to give me each individual quote, the context etc for me to know what I now think. But please donít bother it would only be your usual semantics and smears.

You are rightly concerned about one type of racism but undermine the struggle against other forms. And youíll keep doing that I know, donít need to think again.
What you fail to follow is the justfiable fight against racism against in this case the Black community is undermined by those using it for political reasons. In this case the use by some not all by any means to push a Marxist agenda.

Look at the banners today in Whitehall there are a number which i could take issue with. But not for this discussion. However the point is the placards which are printed distributed by the SWP. Are they using a cause which you can agree with to try and push their political agenda.

The only arguement against the view is the row over the booing has highlighted the BLM anti racist message far more. If you are going to change hearts and minds it fails though. The racist have an excuse to ignore the message.
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Old 12-06-2021, 06:44 PM
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What you fail to follow is the justfiable fight against racism against in this case the Black community is undermined by those using it for political reasons. In this case the use by some not all by any means to push a Marxist agenda.

Look at the banners today in Whitehall there are a number which i could take issue with. But not for this discussion. However the point is the placards which are printed distributed by the SWP. Are they using a cause which you can agree with to try and push their political agenda.

The only arguement against the view is the row over the booing has highlighted the BLM anti racist message far more. If you are going to change hearts and minds it fails though. The racist have an excuse to ignore the message.
You fail to see the wood for trees. If I was charitable I would say itís because you are pedantic and ignorant. If I wasnít I would say you deliberately undermine the struggle against racism in a dishonest way by honing in on small things while mainly ignoring the main issue.

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Old 13-06-2021, 12:36 PM
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What you fail to follow is the justfiable fight against racism against in this case the Black community is undermined by those using it for political reasons. In this case the use by some not all by any means to push a Marxist agenda.

Look at the banners today in Whitehall there are a number which i could take issue with. But not for this discussion. However the point is the placards which are printed distributed by the SWP. Are they using a cause which you can agree with to try and push their political agenda.

The only arguement against the view is the row over the booing has highlighted the BLM anti racist message far more. If you are going to change hearts and minds it fails though. The racist have an excuse to ignore the message.
But the criticism that 'it's a Marxist agenda ' originates as a Far Right agenda with an equally arguable Fascist agenda that deliberately pushed the idea that the slogan and the organisation Black Lives Matter Network are the same thing.

It's not like The SWP have only recently been Anti-Racist as far back as I can remember they've been heavily involved in Anti-Racism (and given their general political stances and origins they've pretty much always seen racism as a means of preventing class unity).

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Old 13-06-2021, 03:19 PM
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I bet the same racist pricks were jumping around when sterling scored.
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That picture looks like it was taken in winterÖ..


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Old 13-06-2021, 04:07 PM
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Boo taking the knee, boo the Croatian anthem, boo the Croatian team when they have the ball...cheer on a team with a large amount of black players in the squad and wank yourself stupid when a black player scores. Fvcking hypocrites.
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Probably not. These tossers are hardcore thickos.
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Watched in a pub in London Bridge. Didnít hear a single boo during the kneeling
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Obviously there's no people, how would they get past that big sign?
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Kneel under it.
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Watched in a pub in London Bridge. Didnít hear a single boo during the kneeling
Sadly it was quite clear, although then drowned out by applause
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Ah. I meant in the pub I was in. Sadly, it doesnít surprise me there was some at the ground. Racists gonna racist.
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