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Old 14-04-2021, 01:24 PM
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Always assuming we do not grow trade with non EU countries across the globe. Time will tell if that can be achieved but optimistic people will say it can be done & be true "free trade" that does not have all the stifling consequences the EU demand from member countries.

The other question of course is can growth be maintained by any country without further damage to the environment? It could be argued that Coronovirus will be the watershed when we consider other ways to look at trade, manufacturing all which contribute to Co2 emissions and reducing natural resources?
Do you not think to address the last load of bollocks you posted before posting again?

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Old 14-04-2021, 02:14 PM
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Old 14-04-2021, 04:03 PM
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Always assuming we do not grow trade with non EU countries across the globe. Time will tell if that can be achieved but optimistic people will say it can be done & be true "free trade" that does not have all the stifling consequences the EU demand from member countries.

The other question of course is can growth be maintained by any country without further damage to the environment? It could be argued that Coronovirus will be the watershed when we consider other ways to look at trade, manufacturing all which contribute to Co2 emissions and reducing natural resources?
It won't be as free trade as we had with the EU. That was Champions League stuff. Everyone will want a quid pro quo.

Our non-EU trade was increasing in any event although all the major manufacturing countries will be chasing the same new markets. We are principally a services economy which puts further limitations on us.
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Old 14-04-2021, 04:06 PM
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Who's joining the EU next? Anybody who can add money rather than take from the pot?
Iceland still gone cold I see...
Weren't we supposed to be flooded with free moving Turkish immigrants by now?
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Old 14-04-2021, 04:09 PM
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Itís an exercise in mathematics, which is clearly
Beyond the press. In Jan exports down 40%, in Feb exports up 47%.

If you start with 100 and lose 40 you only have 60. 60 increased by 47% is 88.2.

Press see the 47%. Everything is awesome etc. But youíre down 11% on what you started with
The Office for National Statistics were kind enough to expand on the figures for the export of goods to the EU:

January down 42% = £5.7bn

February up 46.6% = £3.7bn

Shurely shome mishtake!!
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Not on the basis of him being a brexiteer or where he employs people i dont need to make moral judgements and boycott for that reason,when the drop in quality of the products makes it a no brainer.Cant believe people keep buying his shit!
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Sir James said the end of the UK's transition period with the EU had enabled Dyson to hire the engineering talent it was lacking in the UK.

So pre Brexit you could hire engineering talent from anywhere in the world. If they happened to be Europeans you avoided having to get a visa if not you did the paperwork for a visa. Now you need to get a visa wherever they come from.
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Old 14-04-2021, 08:11 PM
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Old 14-04-2021, 08:56 PM
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The Office for National Statistics were kind enough to expand on the figures for the export of goods to the EU:

January down 42% = £5.7bn

February up 46.6% = £3.7bn

Shurely shome mishtake!!
No, it's just as Adlerhorst explained it:

January normal trade £13.57bn x 42% = £5.7bn drop leaving £7.87bn

February trade increase on January £7.87bn x 46.6% = £3.7bn

Admittedly there is some rounding in these figures.
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Old 14-04-2021, 09:14 PM
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Weren't we supposed to be flooded with free moving Turkish immigrants by now?
I have no problems getting a kebab but other than that I don't really know wtf you're going on about.
Do you mean Turkey has gone off joining too? I think Erdogan just wanted some free cash and maybe free movement to push his Kurds out towards European countries.. they don't normally vote for him.
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I know it's another subject but if they are happy to base their senior management in Chinese run Hongkong they can take the rest of the bank with them. Already bowing down to them over the National Security law.
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Old 14-04-2021, 11:19 PM
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That much is clear.
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Old 15-04-2021, 08:53 AM
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Iceland or thoughts on Turkey then..?

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As you can see, even from that article, HSBC are a bunch of shits. They can't f*ck off fast enough.
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I have no problems getting a kebab but other than that I don't really know wtf you're going on about.
Do you mean Turkey has gone off joining too? I think Erdogan just wanted some free cash and maybe free movement to push his Kurds out towards European countries.. they don't normally vote for him.
Jeez such ignorance in a single post.
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Do you mean Turkey has gone off joining too? I think Erdogan just wanted some free cash and maybe free movement to push his Kurds out towards European countries.. they don't normally vote for him.

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I have no problems getting a kebab but other than that I don't really know wtf you're going on about.
Do you mean Turkey has gone off joining too? I think Erdogan just wanted some free cash and maybe free movement to push his Kurds out towards European countries.. they don't normally vote for him.

Turkey appear to be enjoying far more support from Russia in terms of cash and military equipment. They (Turkey) are building a huge influence in Libya and are fast becoming the major power in the Eastern Mediterranean and North Africa.

While the EU seem all over the place in terms of Russia, Turkey and China. While they impose sanctions on Russia with one hand the other is trying to do a deal for Covid vaccine and agreeing a deal for a new gas pipeline. They also seem split over relations with Turkey even before Sofa gate. China relations are like Russia confirming China one minute, doing trade deals the next. If the EU really want to be a serious player in a global scale they need a one face to the world policy otherwise no major country will take them seriously.
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My former company, no surprise, been on the cards for years. HSBC are under extreme pressure from the Chinese and thats where they make their money - whether the execs will actually go given what may happen if they annoy the Chinese authorities is another matter (The arrest of the Hua Wei number 2 in Canada currently fighting extradition to the USA was down to HSBC monitoring of accounts) - my guess is HSBC will eventually create 2 banks - one for Asia and one for the rest of the world
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Sir James said the end of the UK's transition period with the EU had enabled Dyson to hire the engineering talent it was lacking in the UK.

So pre Brexit you could hire engineering talent from anywhere in the world. If they happened to be Europeans you avoided having to get a visa if not you did the paperwork for a visa. Now you need to get a visa wherever they come from.
What he really means is its easier to hire much cheaper labour from outside of the EU and the UK. Where as now as its much harder to hire European talent, its consequently much easier to propose Non-EU staff to do the work if your a large business concern, and have friends in government.
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