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I guess the poll tax riots have some resonance with current news headlines. Anything up to half a million people there depending on what estimate you believe, it was carnage but it focussed the politicians' minds alright. The power of non-peaceful protest.
I was about to say the same. I learnt that day that rioting sometimes is the only way to get things done. It doesn't give me any joy saying that but that riot against a blatantly unfair tax had the desired effect - I forgot it had changed its name from Poll Tax to Community Charge tbh but it was still the same bad tax.
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I was about to say the same. I learnt that day that rioting sometimes is the only way to get things done. It doesn't give me any joy saying that but that riot against a blatantly unfair tax had the desired effect - I forgot it had changed its name from Poll Tax to Community Charge tbh but it was still the same bad tax.
I may be wrong about this, but I don't think it was ever called the Poll Tax - that was a name given to it by opponents.
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Yes, same as the bedroom tax is actually the 'spare bedroom subsidy'
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Good work stevek. I've learnt something new today, thirty years after the event.

This is from the Wikipedia page on Community Charge/Poll Tax.

'The term 'Poll tax' was coined as an alternative name because the tax had a passing resemblance to historical taxes levied on adults who registered to vote. However, in this case, failing to register to vote (actually a criminal offence) did not absolve that person from liability for the tax.'
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I remember that Leeds game and I could only get in the Leeds stand , so I tucked my scarf inside my jacket and when Wrighty scored the winner a fantastic header , I remember muttering “yep” under my breath while all the Leeds were looking for anyone celebrating .
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On 30 March 1991 we made the long journey up to Roker Park to play second bottom Sunderland. We were coming into the game on the back of three straight wins in the league, by contrast Sunderland were on a run of three straight defeats.

Inevitably then we lost 2-1, Alan Pardew notching our consolation. I didn't go to this game so cannot report back any memories of it, hazy or otherwise. However I note from Wikipedia that Sunderland's goals came in the 45th and 90th minutes, most unlike a Coppell team to twice concede in the final moments of each half. As Pardew scored it seems likely that he kept his place in the starting line up with McGoldrick again on the bench.

Sunderland would go on to lose their next three games after this one too, so a frustrating anomaly of a result which must surely have killed off any lingering hopes of reaching the top two.
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On 30 March 1991 we made the long journey up to Roker Park to play second bottom Sunderland. We were coming into the game on the back of three straight wins in the league, by contrast Sunderland were on a run of three straight defeats.

Inevitably then we lost 2-1, Alan Pardew notching our consolation. I didn't go to this game so cannot report back any memories of it, hazy or otherwise. However I note from Wikipedia that Sunderland's goals came in the 45th and 90th minutes, most unlike a Coppell team to twice concede in the final moments of each half. As Pardew scored it seems likely that he kept his place in the starting line up with McGoldrick again on the bench.

Sunderland would go on to lose their next three games after this one too, so a frustrating anomaly of a result which must surely have killed off any lingering hopes of reaching the top two.
I have a clear memory of it. There had been a fire on the track between Newcastle and Sunderland so no trains. We had to get the local Metro and a bus.

There must have been about 25 of us on this regular bus service. I think the locals thought it was an invasion.
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The dangers of facing teams in a relegation fight at the end of the season. One where you expect a result and be it over confidence or the opposition just try harder the unexpected happens. I dont remember feeling devestated think by then settled for third. By then the season was catching up. If you look back we rarely rested anyone in Cup games. The long drawn out third round of the F A Cup or the run in the ZDS.
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I remember we had just started going down our caravan of a weekend again as my Dad and I were sat listening to this game on his car radio on Capital Gold.
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Arsenal have conceded a ridiculous 13 goals in 30 games...Forest enduring a poorer season than I remember, only 8 wins from 30 games so far.

Interesting little footnote from Bubbs' scrapbook about the end of Charlton's groundshare and the comments that Palace reaped £200k per annum from the arrangement. Chicken feed in the context of the modern game of course but I assume also inaccurate as Noades owned the stadium rather than Palace. Wonder what happened to the 'travel business' though? Maybe Noades was trying to entice Palace fans around the globe to spend a fortnight in Thornton Heath?
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Noades must’ve known by this stage that there was a good chance that Wimbledon would end up sharing with us the following season. Guessing from his ‘I’m not bothered’ if we do or we don’t quote, that he was in the middle of negotiations.
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I'm pretty sure that the Sunderland game was Easter Saturday, so to complete a very disappointing Holiday period , Palace lost 3-1 at home to Man City on the Easter Monday.
I was at this game, but can't for the life of me, remember who scored for us - I do recall we scored when already 3 goals down, with Niall Quinn having bagged a hat trick for City.
I do remember having pulled that goal back, in the 2nd half, we laid siege to the City goal, but had left ourselves too much to do.
Disappointing and I think we all realised that the pipedream of finishing in the top 2, was probably over, but next was the Wembley trip to look forward to.
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I have a clear memory of it. There had been a fire on the track between Newcastle and Sunderland so no trains. We had to get the local Metro and a bus.

There must have been about 25 of us on this regular bus service. I think the locals thought it was an invasion.
Yes, remember the Metro & bus journey, but forgotten the reason.

Supa Al's last goal for us, and IIRC not a game we deserved anything out of. Played in the blue kit.

My one & only visit to Roker Park.
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Salako scored according to Wiki.
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I mean the City game mentioned in post before mine.
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Yes, remember the Metro & bus journey, but forgotten the reason.

Supa Al's last goal for us, and IIRC not a game we deserved anything out of. Played in the blue kit.

My one & only visit to Roker Park.
My only visit too. How great that we find out we were on the same bus 30 years later!
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The Salako goal was pretty good against City but it was a muted celebration due to the scoreline.

Did Niall Quinn score two of the goals within a couple of minutes of each other? I remember him being a menace and really stabbing us in the heart that day.

City themselves were having a decent season having come up with us and then ending 1990 on the same points as us. We were matching each other every step of the way for a few seasons around that time. Wouldn't mind matching them these days!
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