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Old 02-05-2021, 05:23 AM
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You do realise the Corbyn/Labour haters will never accept this, they voted the buffon to keep Corbyn out as Corbyn would have taken Britain to 1970"s blimey imagine that, it would be like watching Palace in black and white telly rather than 4K

What was so bad about the 1970’s, fashion aside?
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Old 02-05-2021, 05:40 AM
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What was so bad about the 1970’s, fashion aside?
The food?

The death of British industry?
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Old 02-05-2021, 05:47 AM
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Old 02-05-2021, 05:55 AM
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I haven't investigated either the benefits, or the disadvantages, but I expect there are some of both. I appreciate that you haven't bothered to investigate either but, more importantly, how far has the whittling progressed you in life?
Get rid of expect, replace with hope and fingers crossed. It would be far closer to the truth.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:01 AM
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Because I think Corbyn (both personally and his politic leaanings) would have taken the country into ruin.
So you were guessing?
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:07 AM
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The reason you voted for Tories was not Brexit you said.....any pro remain remarks Corbyn would have said you would have ignored it?

What made you vote Tories? I am curious.
I was thinking much the same.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:13 AM
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The food?

The death of British industry?
Ahhmmm - try Maggie Thatcher for more accuracy... not the 70's
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:14 AM
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Ahhmmm - try Maggie Thatcher for more accuracy... not the 70's
if you want political narrative rather than actual history, sure.

The 1970s saw the real effects of the imperial overhang no longer extisting (having vanished by the late 1960s), and Japan and Germany being back on the world stage stage. British industry was complacent at all levels (investment, management and labour) because of the circumstances that had existed until then.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:33 AM
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if you want political narrative rather than actual history, sure.

The 1970s saw the real effects of the imperial overhang no longer extisting (having vanished by the late 1960s), and Japan and Germany being back on the world stage stage.
That certainly was a big contributor, but political direction was the key.. A distinct policy of relying on the invisible (then very lucrative) industry like finance & banking and not protecting or investing in manufacturing. Frittered away the oil money instead of investing in British industry. The uni milk round was no more after MT came in.

Guess its a wee bit of a moot point, but for me denying the direction we took is re writing history.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:35 AM
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Sure, but political direction in the 1970s (which utterly failed) was way more important than the 1980s.

Maggie may have applied the coup de grace but it was by then very much already dead. The investment was needed in the 1960s, not the 1980s
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:07 AM
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Sure, but political direction in the 1970s (which utterly failed) was way more important than the 1980s.

Maggie may have applied the coup de grace but it was by then very much already dead. The investment was needed in the 1960s, not the 1980s
Investment dollars were not available in the 60's with post war issues and the original cost of setting up a universal health care etc. The dollars were effectively only available post 1980 when the North Sea Oil revenue kicked in (was all costs before that). There was no reason why 'catch up' investment was not possible.
To give a family example, a sibling of mine studied Physics and Ergonomics at uni and the jobs being offered to the likes of him were in insurance, finance and banking. He never utilized the highly desired qualifications and went straight into selling mortgages!!! The tories had no interest or desire to expand manufacturing and high skilled industry.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:11 AM
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What was so bad about the 1970’s, fashion aside?
I suspect you know the answer but suggest you read up on it if you really don’t know
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:13 AM
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What was so bad about the 1970’s, fashion aside?
Apparently It was strikes, huge unemployment, everyone on dole, all due to labour and this is what brexshitters say Corbyn will bring back if voted.

The bad old days......and I must admit many a morons bought that line
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:18 AM
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So you were guessing?
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:24 AM
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The fashion was a hell of a lot more interesting and creative than the identikit sportswear look prevalent over the last god knows how many years.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:48 AM
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Apparently It was strikes, huge unemployment, everyone on dole, all due to labour and this is what brexshitters say Corbyn will bring back if voted.

The bad old days......and I must admit many a morons bought that line
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People with half a brain more like.
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So you were guessing?
It's a judgement that every voter has to make. Unless of course you believe with 100% certainty that all parties will deliver everything in their manifesto with no adverse effect whatsoever. Fine if you want to call it a guess rather than a judgement.

As an aside, this is way off topic/thread. Debate started with my comment that it was out of order for some on here not to care that people were made redundant, just because their constituency was 68% pro Brexit. Put aside the fact that I think it is wrong not to care that folk lose jobs, it is quite possible that those unfortunate employees were not representative of Rotherham in being pro Brexit as they will have known they were working for a company that was export dependent.
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It's a judgement that every voter has to make. Unless of course you believe with 100% certainty that all parties will deliver everything in their manifesto with no adverse effect whatsoever. Fine if you want to call it a guess rather than a judgement.

As an aside, this is way off topic/thread. Debate started with my comment that it was out of order for some on here not to care that people were made redundant, just because their constituency was 68% pro Brexit. Put aside the fact that I think it is wrong not to care that folk lose jobs, it is quite possible that those unfortunate employees were not representative of Rotherham in being pro Brexit as they will have known they were working for a company that was export dependent.
People’s business / industry being dependent on export to the EU did not appear to have influenced their vote much

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Old 02-05-2021, 08:32 AM
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It's a judgement that every voter has to make. Unless of course you believe with 100% certainty that all parties will deliver everything in their manifesto with no adverse effect whatsoever. Fine if you want to call it a guess rather than a judgement.

As an aside, this is way off topic/thread. Debate started with my comment that it was out of order for some on here not to care that people were made redundant, just because their constituency was 68% pro Brexit. Put aside the fact that I think it is wrong not to care that folk lose jobs, it is quite possible that those unfortunate employees were not representative of Rotherham in being pro Brexit as they will have known they were working for a company that was export dependent.
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