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Shilton in the Derby goal was, as we knew by this time having watched the World Cup, pretty hapless at penalties and my recollection is that he effectively dived out of the way of it!.

Second goal I think was another typical artefact of the time, Wright finishing off a Bright knockdown. Can't remember the Derby goal other than that it was quite a good finish. I think we went 2-0 up before they grabbed one late on.

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Exactly how I remember it. I was right behind the Gray penalty and I swear Shilts was glad to get out of the way of it as he fell down.

The Wright goal amazingly was his first home League goal since August!! In a season he'd go onto score 25 goals. Honestly one of those things that I check from time to time as it sounds wrong.

What reminds me of it being true is certain fans were actually having a go at him for not scoring at home....forgetting the fact he was banging them in away and winning us games every month.
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Can’t recall much from this game but I clearly do remember Derby’s goal. I was stood on the Holmesdale with my brother and friends and the same guys who we didn’t really know but always stood with that year like you do.

As mentioned above, we had a tendency to concede after going two goals up and as Micklewhite ran at our defenders across the box, I just kept repeating loudly, ‘He’s gonna score...he’s gonna score....’., in a resigned ‘we always do this’ way. Goal. Everyone turns to me with peeved faces like it was my fault!

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Another one of the half time guest efforts that generated next to no reaction from the crowd.

As a Medway boy I was pro-Gary Mason (Gillingham) at the time but Lennox kicked his arse when they met. Both players came on for half time guest slots but, in a move that would get repeated for Bentt v Hide in 1994, no one really cared.

I always understood Lennox was a West Ham fan given where he was born. Probably had friends at various clubs and likewise the players would have friends in other sports as well. I know Wright was friends with Nigel Benn for instance.
Gary Mason was killed at Wallington riding a bike, I think. My mate used to be his hypnotherapist to help him get the enthusiasm to train.
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Can’t recall much from this game but I clearly do remember Derby’s goal. I was stood on the Holmesdale with my brother and friends and the same guys who we didn’t really know but always stood with that year like you do.

As mentioned above, we had a tendency to concede after going two goals up and as Micklewhite ran at our defenders across the box, I just kept repeating loudly, ‘He’s gonna score...he’s gonna score....’., in a resigned ‘we always do this’ way. Goal. Everyone turns to me with peeved faces like it was my fault!

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I marked Glenn Micklewhite (Gary’s brother) in a schoolboy game once. He called me a ‘fat full back’ so I kicked the **** up in the air
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Gary Mason was killed at Wallington riding a bike, I think. My mate used to be his hypnotherapist to help him get the enthusiasm to train.
Wow - I had no idea he was dead. Over ten years ago as well. That's a shame.

I forgot just how good his record was - 37-1, with the Lennox Lewis fight being his only defeat. He fought a lot of name US fighters as well in that time.

He was obsessed with a girl I worked with in the early 90s. Briefly dated and once stood in front of a bus she was on to get the driver to stop so he could get on and speak to her to win her back after she dumped him. I wasn't there but that's her version of the story anyway!
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On the Palace v Derby game - it took Nigel at his best to preserve the win at the end. So easy to forget it 30 years afterwards. You look at the 2-1 score but it doesn't show up anywhere in the stats about Nigel's late saves.
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I've been looking forward to this one...

19 March 1991 saw the second leg of our ZDS Trophy semi-final against Norwich. A good crowd turned up for the prospect of booking another Wembley appearance and we were duly rewarded as the team cruised to a 2-0 win, taking the tie 3-1 on aggregate. This was one of those nights when everything seemed to click into place from the off, sometimes with this side it was a matter of when rather than if we would score (can't say that these days!) and broadly speaking we could relax and let it happen. The game felt very similar to the play-off semi second leg against Swindon two years previously, we were in control throughout and there was only going to be one winner. A hugely professional performance and once again it was the old double act of Wright and Bright who notched the goals.

But this was Alan Pardew's night. Forget the FA Cup semi-final, this was surely his finest performance in a Palace shirt. Maybe he was sensing that his time at Palace was coming to an end, certainly, he was no longer a regular starter in the league games. But he was everywhere that night, harrying Norwich players all over the pitch, crunching into tackles, carrying the ball forward with purpose and generally bossing the midfield from the first minute to the last. A genuinely superb performance, think Michael Hughes with blond highlights and you are on the right lines.

So it was Wembley here we come again, this time around though the focus was much more on the match and the result than the occasion. It felt as though this team deserved some form of silverware for their incredible efforts, even if relatively speaking most people deemed the ZDS a Mickey Mouse trophy.

Fun facts: The first leg of the other semi-final was played on the same night as our game, finishing 3-3 between Leeds and Everton. The second leg was then played just two days later, Everton prevailing 3-1 after extra time. For Everton this was in the middle of a spell of 5 games in 11 games as fixture congestion took its toll.
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Wasn't the semi live 2nd leg at Selhurst live on Sky too? I vaguely recall the game being on tv but can't quite remember. I remember the excitement of the prospect of us going to Wembley again - what a day it was too.
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PALACE 2. Bright. Wright
NORWICH 0

(Agg: 3-1)

Att: 13,857

Palace: Martyn. Humphrey. Shaw. Gray. Young. Thorn. Salako. Thomas. Bright. Wright. Pardew. Subs: McGoldrick. Thompson. (Unused)


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Great night and apart from the FA Cup Semi, Pardew's finest hour (or 90 mins) in a Palace shirt.
I'm sure, for the 2nd goal, he left a Norwich defender, for dead, before crossing for Bright's goal.
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Was a great night even if it was the ZDS. Typical Coppell; stung by our defeat against Norwich in the league, he studied that game and came up with a solution by adding an extra midfielder in Pardew. The players were so up for it and treated the competition as any other, and ended being as convincing a victory a 2-0 has you’ll ever see.
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This was Pardews night as others have said. A game which he looked unplayable. Dominated the Norwich defence. Its like he found Billys Boots in a dusty corner of the dressing room. As an individual performance by a Palace player on one day it rates as high as any you can name. It seriously was that good.
The return to Wembley booked this was dreamland. Having watched us since the early 60s and with the guy I went to games with in thise days the 50s. The two of us returned to the car and did a Del and Rodney celebration before it had been written. Not a bad day known worse. Happy Days.
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Have a story relating to this game and Wembley coincidentally.

A few months before I’d bought tickets to go and see George Michael at Wembley Arena in his Cover to cover tour. Now can I just make it clear, I am not a boy band wannabe. Honest!!! My musical tastes are best categorised as in the 60’s and Indie end of things; but for some reason George’s songwriting and voice always really appealed to me. Yes even Wham! (for shame)

So I was somewhat of a (closet) fan, so much so that I’d bought tickets for two successive nights; the first night being the expensive tickets with a great stage side view. The following night the tickets were on the cheaper ground level ones somewhere near the back.

The day the date for the Norwich game was announced my heart sank - it was the same night as the first concert with the great seats. I had a decision to make. My love for Palace won out. I just couldn’t miss seeing us possibly win a game to get to Wembley. It was still a big and unique thing in those days.

Of course my mates couldn’t wait to tell me after the event how amazing the view was. ‘George was literally looking at us!’ The concert I went to the following night was still enjoyable but the view was awful. Oh well...Wemberlee!
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Have a story relating to this game and Wembley coincidentally.

A few months before I’d bought tickets to go and see George Michael at Wembley Arena in his Cover to cover tour. Now can I just make it clear, I am not a boy band wannabe. Honest!!! My musical tastes are best categorised as in the 60’s and Indie end of things; but for some reason George’s songwriting and voice always really appealed to me. Yes even Wham! (for shame)

So I was somewhat of a (closet) fan, so much so that I’d bought tickets for two successive nights; the first night being the expensive tickets with a great stage side view. The following night the tickets were on the cheaper ground level ones somewhere near the back.

The day the date for the Norwich game was announced my heart sank - it was the same night as the first concert with the great seats. I had a decision to make. My love for Palace won out. I just couldn’t miss seeing us possibly win a game to get to Wembley. It was still a big and unique thing in those days.

Of course my mates couldn’t wait to tell me after the event how amazing the view was. ‘George was literally looking at us!’ The concert I went to the following night was still enjoyable but the view was awful. Oh well...Wemberlee!

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Have a story relating to this game and Wembley coincidentally.

A few months before I’d bought tickets to go and see George Michael at Wembley Arena in his Cover to cover tour. Now can I just make it clear, I am not a boy band wannabe. Honest!!! My musical tastes are best categorised as in the 60’s and Indie end of things; but for some reason George’s songwriting and voice always really appealed to me. Yes even Wham! (for shame)

So I was somewhat of a (closet) fan, so much so that I’d bought tickets for two successive nights; the first night being the expensive tickets with a great stage side view. The following night the tickets were on the cheaper ground level ones somewhere near the back.

The day the date for the Norwich game was announced my heart sank - it was the same night as the first concert with the great seats. I had a decision to make. My love for Palace won out. I just couldn’t miss seeing us possibly win a game to get to Wembley. It was still a big and unique thing in those days.

Of course my mates couldn’t wait to tell me after the event how amazing the view was. ‘George was literally looking at us!’ The concert I went to the following night was still enjoyable but the view was awful. Oh well...Wemberlee!
This is why I love this thread. Its the reminder of things what 30 years ago now. Some games have faded into the past dimmed by the passing of the years. Others like this semi final live on memories made never forgotten. For me the celebration in the car when we got back tiny moment in time. But I can close my eyes and recall it as much as seeing Pardew skipping past defenders that night. Helps recall a friend who died what 10 years ago now and brings a smile recalling the laughs the good times. Not the last few years where ill health ate away at him till he was but a shadow of the fun loving guy i knew. The last months would see him weekly after work would often have to feed him to help the nursing staff. Its easy to remember those times forget the crazy days. Trips around the country the laughter following Palace together. Even more so before I was married crazy times.
For me 30 years latter who can reach the bathroom and can forget what I went for its enlightening.
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Great post above by N Herts Eagle, on the back of Bubbs' own vivid memories. Nostalgia is an overrated pastime in the eyes of some but there is definitely something to be said for allowing your mind to wander back to those memorable moments in your Palace supporting life. From there you can trigger thoughts and recollections more widely about the things you were doing and the people you circulated with at work and at play.

I forgot to do the new entries into the top ten for week ending 16 March 1991 so here they are:

Joyride by Roxette - the Swedish duo had been big for a couple of years by now, this was another slice of catchy power pop with a slick production. Never going to change the world but absolutely no harm in it. Was sad to hear of the death of 'the female one' last year (sorry, cannot remember her name) at a relatively young age.

It's Too Late by Quartz featuring Dina Carroll - this sparsely produced cover of the Carole King classic introduced Dina to the wider public. For a brief period she was the next big thing in British soul, enjoying a few fairly sizeable solo hits before seemingly disappearing from view.
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I think I know why I thought Perry Suckling played this game now. I haven't got the match day programme anymore, but was he on the cover or the poster in the middle by any chance?
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Classic tale there bubbs! And here's me, still never been to a gig or concert in my life and you were planning on doing two in two nights!

Was a great night. Have to be honest though I can't remember the Wright goal, but a very clear recollection of the Pardew assist for Bright to score.

Definitely Pardew's finest Palace game for which Eagle Eye dubbed him 'Mr Semi Final'
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